From theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org Sat Dec 8 12:54:23 2007 From: theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org (The League of Imaginary Scientists) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:54:23 +0100 Subject: [aether] Currently located in state of subjectivity, country AURORA - SUNDAY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Super last minute ? don?t think any of you are in Berlin ? if you are, you are welcome to join us tomorrow... open rehearsal a multimedia experience for those who are seeking You are invited to participate. finding Aurora will take place Sunday, December 9, 2007 19:00 hr Studio 3 at Tanzfabrik M?ckernstr. 68, D-10965, Berlin, Germany (map http://www.imaginaryscience.org/findingaurora/finding) navigating: U-Yorckstra?e / Mehringdamm or Bus M19, Haltestelle: Katzbachstra?e Please reserve your spot: RSVP to aurora at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org or tel. 016092609447 click-&-print-&-cut-&-rearrange your reality at: http://www.imaginaryscience.org/findingaurora/cutandrearrange Emma Nordanfors + Carolina B?ckman + Lucy H.G. = finding Aurora finding Aurora is an ongoing process ? we need your assistance. The process was initiated by choreographer Emma Nordanfors (E.K.K.O) in collaboration with media artist Lucy H. G. (the League of Imaginary Scientists) and movement artist Carolina B?ckman. Finding Aurora is made possible thanks to the generous support of the Danish Arts Council, and is under the administration of Projektcentret, Dansens Hus in Denmark. To/from: Whom It May Concern Ministry of N.O.W. (Navigating-Our-Reality) The State of Subjectivity AURORA www.imaginaryscience.org/findingaurora -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071208/648e3f98/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 89305 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071208/648e3f98/attachment.jpe -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Wo gibt es den sch?nsten Strand? www.yahoo.de/clever -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: linear GT.docx Type: application/octet-stream Size: 99433 bytes Desc: 3091364177-linear GT.docx Url : http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071208/3e3aad10/attachment.obj From chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com Sun Dec 9 06:44:18 2007 From: chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?chlo=E9_cramer?=) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 06:44:18 +0100 Subject: [aether] ghost nano In-Reply-To: <644250.26019.qm {a+} web26715.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <644250.26019.qm {a+} web26715.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3d22b5760712082144xe573c05g80cb609cb623fb8a {a+} mail.gmail.com> Hi all, this is the table of the screenplay. waiting for your re-actions. bye C. On 12/8/07, laure deselys wrote: > hi all > > ive create a topic in the wiki but could'nt save what > i wrote and attached in > > so you can find some explanations on "script in > progress" topic script > followed by the script itself > > http://1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=script+in+progress > > will try to put things in order there in the wiki by > the end of week-end > > here is the the new script, it may diserve a few > change but in general it's pretty it > > one a bit synthetisizing the scenes in the frames- > the "frame like" script will come by tomorrow > > also coming soon the original text of Beckett, it's > short ro read and will give a good overview of the > general atmosphere > > who will be in for novi sad? > > we should be at least 4 in order to make the script > work well > > > when should we rehearse ? > > > im free on monday evening,tuesday afternoon, thursday > morning or evening (brxl time) > > have a look at the calendar > > more soon > laure > > > __________________________________ Ihr erstes Fernweh? Wo gibt es den sch?nsten Strand? www.yahoo.de/clever > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > -- Chlo? Cramer 57 av. des Casernes B-1040 Bruxelles Mobile : +32 (0)472 61 62 01 fixe: +32 (0)2 613 79 25 chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ghost_trio_table.xls Type: application/vnd.ms-excel Size: 29696 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071209/ae2df75b/attachment.xls From lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de Sun Dec 9 11:23:30 2007 From: lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de (laure deselys) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:23:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] original text (to read !) and sound Message-ID: <11472.74178.qm {a+} web26715.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> helllo im realising that my last mail could sound a bit confusing now that you received Chloes table script and the original text, it must be a bit clearer. (it is crucial to read the short 4 page-long original text!) here's the ORIGINAL TEXT from the Ghost Trio and the ORINIGAL MUSIC from the Ghost Trio (Beethoven) http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ im quite excited about doing the sound (voice+beethoven remix) is it possible to have different people doing sound together ? tell us what you think, about all the story laure Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie?s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail. www.yahoo.de/mail From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Sun Dec 9 14:00:47 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:00:47 +0100 Subject: [aether] ghost files Message-ID: hi, as postings on this list are limited to 777 KB, the attachments sent by Chloe (ghost_trio_txt.zip) and Judy (abinadimeza_Rainfall.ogg) have been uploaded here: http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ more soon, manu. ----- Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 06:47:00 +0100 From: "chlo? cramer" connected to the preceding mail, here is the complete text of the ghost trio ghost_trio_txt.zip ----- Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:38:45 -0800 (PST) From: Judy Nylon Subject: Re: [aether] ghost nano Laure...Chloe...Aether crew, This script is a most interesting choice for aether; I can visualize it done by aether as you?ve written it. I also have a copy of Beckett's original to read alongside your script. If we are now able to have sound..... may I suggest this attached sample of the rain mentioned in Act 3 ? It is a 11 MG ogg. If it is too large, I will change format and send again. I could, as well, provide the Voice (female, faint & dispassionate). I think this might be done either live or as MP3s triggered by F (if they are recorded strictly respecting the 5 second intervals, they might provide a sort of metronome.) I did notice that you have left off all reference to sound other than the first "waiting for starting, the voice to start". Is that by choice? Or directed by a tech logistic I am unaware of? I am available to rehearse any of the times Laure has posted in the calendar and now have a sound producer/engineer friend who is interested enough to assist me. It is 3 AM here in NYC now but I will give this more attention tomorrow. I use sound samples from: http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php They are usually CC licensed as OK for profit but must be credited to source. The one attached was from abinadimeza. G'nite All....Laure & Chloe...I am paljudy on skype; we could speak so that you might hear the voice style I have in mind. JUDY From lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de Sun Dec 9 16:03:53 2007 From: lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de (laure deselys) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:03:53 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] sunday ghost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <703172.49242.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hi thanx manuel for putting all the files together and arrange my attempt for the ghost trio topic on the wiki ( i was going to ask you help for that) at what time is novi sad performance planned, saturday evening the 15th, is it ? Judy, you're very right to mention the sound part, which is a major component of the play, we would also be very glad if your voice incarnates V I think V must be live in order to apapt itself to an aether temporality cannot be as precise (time speaking) as in the original play we have left off all reference to > sound until now, because we wanted to be sure of the visual aesthetic and organisation first Moreover, if you're assisted by a sound engineer, we could set up that you take care of the sound part, voice and music you can see also with boris, i think he had some ideas with the beethoven remix. Ma skype name is : laure.dit, im often there its very good news that you are seduced by the proposition Leider, i cannot open 7521_abinadimeza_Rainfall.ogg should we organise a meeting, maybe a rehearsal for those who want to participate to novi sad, monday evening (brxl time) ? who's free ? bon dimanche laure --- 1.1 [*] 1904.cc schrieb: > hi, > as postings on this list are limited to 777 KB, > the attachments sent by Chloe > (ghost_trio_txt.zip) and Judy > (abinadimeza_Rainfall.ogg) have been uploaded > here: > http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ > > more soon, > manu. > > ----- > > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 06:47:00 +0100 > From: "chlo? cramer" > > connected to the preceding mail, here is the > complete text of the ghost trio > > ghost_trio_txt.zip > > > ----- > > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:38:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Judy Nylon > Subject: Re: [aether] ghost nano > > Laure...Chloe...Aether crew, > > > This script is a most interesting choice for > aether; I can visualize it done by aether as > you?ve written it. I also > have a copy of Beckett's original to read alongside > your script. If we are > now able to have sound..... may I suggest this > attached sample of the rain > mentioned in Act 3 ? It is a 11 MG ogg. If it is too > large, I will change > format and send again. > > I could, as well, provide the Voice (female, faint & > dispassionate). I think > this might be done either live or as MP3s triggered > by F (if they are > recorded strictly respecting the 5 second intervals, > they might provide a > sort of metronome.) > > I did notice that you have left off all reference to > sound other than the > first "waiting for starting, the voice to start". Is > that by choice? Or > directed by a tech logistic I am unaware of? > > I am available to rehearse any of the times Laure > has posted in the calendar > and now have a sound producer/engineer friend who is > interested enough to > assist me. It is 3 AM here in NYC now but I will > give this more attention > tomorrow. > > I use sound samples from: > > http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php > > They are usually CC licensed as OK for profit but > must be credited to source. The one attached was > from abinadimeza. > > G'nite All....Laure & Chloe...I am paljudy on > skype; we could speak so that you might hear the > voice style I have in mind. > > JUDY > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > __________________________________ Ihre erste Baustelle? Wissenswertes f?r Bastler und Hobby Handwerker. www.yahoo.de/clever From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Sun Dec 9 18:04:29 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:04:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] sunday ghost In-Reply-To: <703172.49242.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <711029.23567.qm {a+} web62304.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Thanks, yes, Laure, I will add you now to my skype. The rainfall sound ogg opens for me in VLC. I too thank Manuel for putting 'the right thing in the right place'. I will await a precise time of rehearsal on Mon/tomorrow if agreed upon. Jonathan, who is helping me, and I will go over the live sound set up tonight. I will also look for Boris on Skype...and affect a direct communication (inc. Jonathan). I feel Beckett's work and quite naturally inhabit the voice described in the play. Bon Dimanche to you too. Judy laure deselys wrote: hi thanx manuel for putting all the files together and arrange my attempt for the ghost trio topic on the wiki ( i was going to ask you help for that) at what time is novi sad performance planned, saturday evening the 15th, is it ? Judy, you're very right to mention the sound part, which is a major component of the play, we would also be very glad if your voice incarnates V I think V must be live in order to apapt itself to an aether temporality cannot be as precise (time speaking) as in the original play we have left off all reference to > sound until now, because we wanted to be sure of the visual aesthetic and organisation first Moreover, if you're assisted by a sound engineer, we could set up that you take care of the sound part, voice and music you can see also with boris, i think he had some ideas with the beethoven remix. Ma skype name is : laure.dit, im often there its very good news that you are seduced by the proposition Leider, i cannot open 7521_abinadimeza_Rainfall.ogg should we organise a meeting, maybe a rehearsal for those who want to participate to novi sad, monday evening (brxl time) ? who's free ? bon dimanche laure --- 1.1 [*] 1904.cc schrieb: > hi, > as postings on this list are limited to 777 KB, > the attachments sent by Chloe > (ghost_trio_txt.zip) and Judy > (abinadimeza_Rainfall.ogg) have been uploaded > here: > http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ > > more soon, > manu. > > ----- > > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 06:47:00 +0100 > From: "chlo? cramer" > > connected to the preceding mail, here is the > complete text of the ghost trio > > ghost_trio_txt.zip > > > ----- > > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:38:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Judy Nylon > Subject: Re: [aether] ghost nano > > Laure...Chloe...Aether crew, > > > This script is a most interesting choice for > aether; I can visualize it done by aether as > you?ve written it. I also > have a copy of Beckett's original to read alongside > your script. If we are > now able to have sound..... may I suggest this > attached sample of the rain > mentioned in Act 3 ? It is a 11 MG ogg. If it is too > large, I will change > format and send again. > > I could, as well, provide the Voice (female, faint & > dispassionate). I think > this might be done either live or as MP3s triggered > by F (if they are > recorded strictly respecting the 5 second intervals, > they might provide a > sort of metronome.) > > I did notice that you have left off all reference to > sound other than the > first "waiting for starting, the voice to start". Is > that by choice? Or > directed by a tech logistic I am unaware of? > > I am available to rehearse any of the times Laure > has posted in the calendar > and now have a sound producer/engineer friend who is > interested enough to > assist me. It is 3 AM here in NYC now but I will > give this more attention > tomorrow. > > I use sound samples from: > > http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php > > They are usually CC licensed as OK for profit but > must be credited to source. The one attached was > from abinadimeza. > > G'nite All....Laure & Chloe...I am paljudy on > skype; we could speak so that you might hear the > voice style I have in mind. > > JUDY > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > __________________________________ Ihre erste Baustelle? Wissenswertes f?r Bastler und Hobby Handwerker. www.yahoo.de/clever _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071209/028247a8/attachment.html From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Sun Dec 9 19:10:34 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 13:10:34 -0500 Subject: [aether] sunday ghost In-Reply-To: <703172.49242.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <703172.49242.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hi all. i'm free and ready for the rehersal and to participate, is there a place for me or there is not place left? i also recive the mail about the videos of tremor festival and bogot? frame. sorry there is a month and i do not work on it since the performance. i could do it now, so very soon i will send it to you, also i have to ask my friend of the gallery to see the material he recorded in medellin during the performance, and the photos if he toked. so, i will read the script right now and tell you... i could also do sound if you want. paula From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Sun Dec 9 22:40:16 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 13:40:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] sunday ghost [TITLE suggestion] In-Reply-To: <703172.49242.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <778538.66695.qm {a+} web62313.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Please consider for the Aether adaptation of "Ghost Trio" could be called "Ghost Given". It sounds like 'forgiven' and suggests the intangibility of what is received and the uncertainly of who is actually doing the giving. Judy laure deselys wrote: hi thanx manuel for putting all the files together and arrange my attempt for the ghost trio topic on the wiki ( i was going to ask you help for that) at what time is novi sad performance planned, saturday evening the 15th, is it ? Judy, you're very right to mention the sound part, which is a major component of the play, we would also be very glad if your voice incarnates V I think V must be live in order to apapt itself to an aether temporality cannot be as precise (time speaking) as in the original play we have left off all reference to > sound until now, because we wanted to be sure of the visual aesthetic and organisation first Moreover, if you're assisted by a sound engineer, we could set up that you take care of the sound part, voice and music you can see also with boris, i think he had some ideas with the beethoven remix. Ma skype name is : laure.dit, im often there its very good news that you are seduced by the proposition Leider, i cannot open 7521_abinadimeza_Rainfall.ogg should we organise a meeting, maybe a rehearsal for those who want to participate to novi sad, monday evening (brxl time) ? who's free ? bon dimanche laure --- 1.1 [*] 1904.cc schrieb: > hi, > as postings on this list are limited to 777 KB, > the attachments sent by Chloe > (ghost_trio_txt.zip) and Judy > (abinadimeza_Rainfall.ogg) have been uploaded > here: > http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ > > more soon, > manu. > > ----- > > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 06:47:00 +0100 > From: "chlo? cramer" > > connected to the preceding mail, here is the > complete text of the ghost trio > > ghost_trio_txt.zip > > > ----- > > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:38:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Judy Nylon > Subject: Re: [aether] ghost nano > > Laure...Chloe...Aether crew, > > > This script is a most interesting choice for > aether; I can visualize it done by aether as > you?ve written it. I also > have a copy of Beckett's original to read alongside > your script. If we are > now able to have sound..... may I suggest this > attached sample of the rain > mentioned in Act 3 ? It is a 11 MG ogg. If it is too > large, I will change > format and send again. > > I could, as well, provide the Voice (female, faint & > dispassionate). I think > this might be done either live or as MP3s triggered > by F (if they are > recorded strictly respecting the 5 second intervals, > they might provide a > sort of metronome.) > > I did notice that you have left off all reference to > sound other than the > first "waiting for starting, the voice to start". Is > that by choice? Or > directed by a tech logistic I am unaware of? > > I am available to rehearse any of the times Laure > has posted in the calendar > and now have a sound producer/engineer friend who is > interested enough to > assist me. It is 3 AM here in NYC now but I will > give this more attention > tomorrow. > > I use sound samples from: > > http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php > > They are usually CC licensed as OK for profit but > must be credited to source. The one attached was > from abinadimeza. > > G'nite All....Laure & Chloe...I am paljudy on > skype; we could speak so that you might hear the > voice style I have in mind. > > JUDY > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > __________________________________ Ihre erste Baustelle? Wissenswertes f?r Bastler und Hobby Handwerker. www.yahoo.de/clever _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071209/629d93b0/attachment.html From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Sun Dec 9 23:49:10 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:49:10 +0100 Subject: [aether] sunday ghost In-Reply-To: <703172.49242.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <703172.49242.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hi, the time of performance has been confirmed by videomedeja, it's Saturday 15th in the late evening at 23:15 CET - that is 5:15 PM in Colombia and 2:15 PM in California. The location is: Muzej Vojvodine, Novi Sad, Serbia. - I'm available for rehearsal tomorrow monday evening. - paula, i'm sure there's a place left for you to participate. - if you had trouble opening the.XLS file, the same visual representation is here: http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ghost_trio_table.htm - in addition to reading the text, a nice synopsis of the play is on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Trio_(play) - to listen to the OGG file: use either the VLC player, or the Ogg QT Components http://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html (this allows to play ogg audio and video in quicktime): manu From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Mon Dec 10 02:47:34 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:47:34 -0500 Subject: [aether] sunday ghost In-Reply-To: References: <703172.49242.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: merci manu. voici j'ai trouv? ce link, qui n'est pas reli? directement au sunday ghost... listen this audio link not related to sunday ghost but to samuel beckett http://www.ubu.com/aspen/aspen5and6/audio5A.html this videos are very good for inspiration maybe. http://www.ubu.com/film/beckett.html i dont know if you have that link ubu web, it is very good one i think. paula -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071209/f80ba812/attachment.html From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Mon Dec 10 09:21:33 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:21:33 +0100 Subject: [aether] novi sad Message-ID: <95c795f70712100021j1ef405b3p8ea9caf123400924 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Hello Aethers So i arranged that i will drive to Novi Sad on friday and back on monday, to be at the festival and do an introduction about aether9. Luka will also be there and as i understood he will make live sound to the performance? For me, i don't really want to take part in the performance, but i would like to do the coordination around it, be on skype with you directly in novi sad to communicate the exact time to start. To make sure that the projection and sound at the venue are as they should be and try to document the situation at the venue for you who are not there. And i would like to make a short introduction to the audience, how aether9 started, how it developed and maybe a short introduction about the story that is going to be played. For this I would need information from you, what you want to tell, who is playing, from which locations and whatever else you think is important that i should tell there. I would like to be in Novi Sad as a contact person, someone people can talk to if anyone has questions about the performance, to explain the project, give infomation and to do the documentation. And to be the contact between the live space and all of you on Skype or IRC. Did you already agree on some dates and times for rehearsals? It would be good if i am also at the rehearsals, so i know what you will be playing on Saturday. For now the transmission is scheduled for 23:15 local time in Novi Sad on Saturday, December 15 (and right after the performance, at midnight it will be my birthday :-) I haven't had much time lately, i am working day and night on a publication that should be finished this week. But i hope to bring the publication to the printer's on Thursday, so i will have my mind free for Aether9 on Friday. Greetings, cym From lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de Mon Dec 10 10:51:23 2007 From: lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de (laure deselys) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:51:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] novi sad In-Reply-To: <95c795f70712100021j1ef405b3p8ea9caf123400924 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <768448.24763.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hi cym good that you can go there with luka (u must see with judy what would be the best to do if you both want to do the sound) then maybe judy could record her voice for he text, and luka can mix it live with the music at novisad ( it actually makes sense to have the sound played in novisad first) cym, chloe and i wrote a statement (aether9 and ghot trio) for a potential participation to an exhibition in brussels, i will send it to you for your presentation, do you read french ? or do i have to translate it somehow ? is it ok to meet tonight at 10 pm (brxl) so from now who will participate for sure geneva, colombia,switzerland here in brussels we can be at least 3 (boris chloe and i)- nathalie what are you up to ? since we must be at least 4 for the ghost trio frame story-telling, there can be 2 in brussels if nobody else wants to make it. please confirm the time for tonight. laure --- cym net schrieb: > Hello Aethers > > So i arranged that i will drive to Novi Sad on > friday and back on > monday, to be at the festival and do an introduction > about aether9. > > Luka will also be there and as i understood he will > make live sound to > the performance? > > For me, i don't really want to take part in the > performance, but i > would like to do the coordination around it, be on > skype with you > directly in novi sad to communicate the exact time > to start. To make > sure that the projection and sound at the venue are > as they should be > and try to document the situation at the venue for > you who are not > there. > > And i would like to make a short introduction to the > audience, how > aether9 started, how it developed and maybe a short > introduction about > the story that is going to be played. For this I > would need > information from you, what you want to tell, who is > playing, from > which locations and whatever else you think is > important that i should > tell there. > > I would like to be in Novi Sad as a contact person, > someone people can > talk to if anyone has questions about the > performance, to explain the > project, give infomation and to do the > documentation. And to be the > contact between the live space and all of you on > Skype or IRC. > > Did you already agree on some dates and times for > rehearsals? It would > be good if i am also at the rehearsals, so i know > what you will be > playing on Saturday. > > For now the transmission is scheduled for 23:15 > local time in Novi Sad > on Saturday, December 15 > (and right after the performance, at midnight it > will be my birthday :-) > > I haven't had much time lately, i am working day and > night on a > publication that should be finished this week. But i > hope to bring the > publication to the printer's on Thursday, so i will > have my mind free > for Aether9 on Friday. > > Greetings, > > cym > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? www.yahoo.de/mail From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Mon Dec 10 11:49:33 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:49:33 +0100 Subject: [aether] novi sad In-Reply-To: <768448.24763.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <95c795f70712100021j1ef405b3p8ea9caf123400924 {a+} mail.gmail.com> <768448.24763.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <95c795f70712100249v24fe2f38mafbfd9a05828f3a6 {a+} mail.gmail.com> hello laure i will be online tonight at 10pm i had 6 years of french in school, but it will be better if you can translate somehow... into dutch, german or english. see you tonight, cym On Dec 10, 2007 10:51 AM, laure deselys wrote: > hi cym > > good that you can go there with luka (u must see with > judy what would be the best to do if you both want to > do the sound) > then maybe judy could record her voice for he text, > and luka can mix it live with the music at novisad ( > it actually makes sense to have the sound played in > novisad first) > > cym, chloe and i wrote a statement (aether9 and ghot > trio) for a potential participation to an exhibition > in brussels, i will send it to you for your > presentation, do you read french ? or do i have to > translate it somehow ? > > is it ok to meet tonight at 10 pm (brxl) > > so from now who will participate for sure > geneva, colombia,switzerland > here in brussels we can be at least 3 (boris chloe and > i)- nathalie what are you up to ? > since we must be at least 4 for the ghost trio frame > story-telling, there can be 2 in brussels > > if nobody else wants to make it. > > please confirm the time for tonight. > > laure > > > --- cym net schrieb: > > > > Hello Aethers > > > > So i arranged that i will drive to Novi Sad on > > friday and back on > > monday, to be at the festival and do an introduction > > about aether9. > > > > Luka will also be there and as i understood he will > > make live sound to > > the performance? > > > > For me, i don't really want to take part in the > > performance, but i > > would like to do the coordination around it, be on > > skype with you > > directly in novi sad to communicate the exact time > > to start. To make > > sure that the projection and sound at the venue are > > as they should be > > and try to document the situation at the venue for > > you who are not > > there. > > > > And i would like to make a short introduction to the > > audience, how > > aether9 started, how it developed and maybe a short > > introduction about > > the story that is going to be played. For this I > > would need > > information from you, what you want to tell, who is > > playing, from > > which locations and whatever else you think is > > important that i should > > tell there. > > > > I would like to be in Novi Sad as a contact person, > > someone people can > > talk to if anyone has questions about the > > performance, to explain the > > project, give infomation and to do the > > documentation. And to be the > > contact between the live space and all of you on > > Skype or IRC. > > > > Did you already agree on some dates and times for > > rehearsals? It would > > be good if i am also at the rehearsals, so i know > > what you will be > > playing on Saturday. > > > > For now the transmission is scheduled for 23:15 > > local time in Novi Sad > > on Saturday, December 15 > > (and right after the performance, at midnight it > > will be my birthday :-) > > > > I haven't had much time lately, i am working day and > > night on a > > publication that should be finished this week. But i > > hope to bring the > > publication to the printer's on Thursday, so i will > > have my mind free > > for Aether9 on Friday. > > > > Greetings, > > > > cym > > _______________________________________________ > > aether mailing list > > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > > > > Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? www.yahoo.de/mail > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Mon Dec 10 15:06:43 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:06:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] novi sad In-Reply-To: <768448.24763.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <141943.22716.qm {a+} web62313.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cym, Laure, Luca and aether all, We in NYC are all set up to do sound on the fly using Nicecast with the tracks mixed live using Abelton Live. We are set to do just sound....as the female v never appears on camera. We have had one test (while you slept a few hours ago, between us in NYC and Christian Cruz in Yorba Linda). We in fact are set for the rehearsal with everybody. When is it exactly? Today? Soon? And....I have not yet been in contact with Boris to know his suggestions about the mix of the piano piece and the rain (pre-recorded) and the voice live. I am looking forward to Saturday and send my best wishes to Cym on her birthday! JUDY laure deselys wrote: hi cym good that you can go there with luka (u must see with judy what would be the best to do if you both want to do the sound) then maybe judy could record her voice for he text, and luka can mix it live with the music at novisad ( it actually makes sense to have the sound played in novisad first) cym, chloe and i wrote a statement (aether9 and ghot trio) for a potential participation to an exhibition in brussels, i will send it to you for your presentation, do you read french ? or do i have to translate it somehow ? is it ok to meet tonight at 10 pm (brxl) so from now who will participate for sure geneva, colombia,switzerland here in brussels we can be at least 3 (boris chloe and i)- nathalie what are you up to ? since we must be at least 4 for the ghost trio frame story-telling, there can be 2 in brussels if nobody else wants to make it. please confirm the time for tonight. laure --- cym net schrieb: > Hello Aethers > > So i arranged that i will drive to Novi Sad on > friday and back on > monday, to be at the festival and do an introduction > about aether9. > > Luka will also be there and as i understood he will > make live sound to > the performance? > > For me, i don't really want to take part in the > performance, but i > would like to do the coordination around it, be on > skype with you > directly in novi sad to communicate the exact time > to start. To make > sure that the projection and sound at the venue are > as they should be > and try to document the situation at the venue for > you who are not > there. > > And i would like to make a short introduction to the > audience, how > aether9 started, how it developed and maybe a short > introduction about > the story that is going to be played. For this I > would need > information from you, what you want to tell, who is > playing, from > which locations and whatever else you think is > important that i should > tell there. > > I would like to be in Novi Sad as a contact person, > someone people can > talk to if anyone has questions about the > performance, to explain the > project, give infomation and to do the > documentation. And to be the > contact between the live space and all of you on > Skype or IRC. > > Did you already agree on some dates and times for > rehearsals? It would > be good if i am also at the rehearsals, so i know > what you will be > playing on Saturday. > > For now the transmission is scheduled for 23:15 > local time in Novi Sad > on Saturday, December 15 > (and right after the performance, at midnight it > will be my birthday :-) > > I haven't had much time lately, i am working day and > night on a > publication that should be finished this week. But i > hope to bring the > publication to the printer's on Thursday, so i will > have my mind free > for Aether9 on Friday. > > Greetings, > > cym > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? www.yahoo.de/mail _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071210/3197ed95/attachment.html From chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com Mon Dec 10 15:18:43 2007 From: chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?chlo=E9_cramer?=) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:18:43 +0100 Subject: [aether] novi sad In-Reply-To: <141943.22716.qm {a+} web62313.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <768448.24763.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <141943.22716.qm {a+} web62313.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3d22b5760712100618q38e20249p927507aa49401650 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Hi Judy, aether all, Nice to hear that you allready did one test. I confirm the meeting tonight at 10 pm Bruxelles Time. I guess that we will rather have a skype session, organising who is doing what, when will be the actuall rehearsals and so on... Good if you join so that we discuss the sound. See you later Chlo? On 12/10/07, Judy Nylon wrote: > Cym, Laure, Luca and aether all, > > We in NYC are all set up to do sound on the fly using Nicecast with the > tracks mixed live using Abelton Live. We are set to do just sound....as the > female v never appears on camera. We have had one test (while you slept a > few hours ago, between us in NYC and Christian Cruz in Yorba Linda). We in > fact are set for the rehearsal with everybody. When is it exactly? Today? > Soon? And....I have not yet been in contact with Boris to know his > suggestions about the mix of the piano piece and the rain (pre-recorded) and > the voice live. > > I am looking forward to Saturday and send my best wishes to Cym on her > birthday! > > JUDY > From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Mon Dec 10 15:46:23 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:46:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] novi sad In-Reply-To: <3d22b5760712100618q38e20249p927507aa49401650 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <494748.21722.qm {a+} web62307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> OK....Great. I will be on Skype at 10PM Brussels time. I am paljudy if anyone needs to connect. Bye for now! JUDY chlo? cramer wrote: Hi Judy, aether all, Nice to hear that you allready did one test. I confirm the meeting tonight at 10 pm Bruxelles Time. I guess that we will rather have a skype session, organising who is doing what, when will be the actuall rehearsals and so on... Good if you join so that we discuss the sound. See you later Chlo? On 12/10/07, Judy Nylon wrote: > Cym, Laure, Luca and aether all, > > We in NYC are all set up to do sound on the fly using Nicecast with the > tracks mixed live using Abelton Live. We are set to do just sound....as the > female v never appears on camera. We have had one test (while you slept a > few hours ago, between us in NYC and Christian Cruz in Yorba Linda). We in > fact are set for the rehearsal with everybody. When is it exactly? Today? > Soon? And....I have not yet been in contact with Boris to know his > suggestions about the mix of the piano piece and the rain (pre-recorded) and > the voice live. > > I am looking forward to Saturday and send my best wishes to Cym on her > birthday! > > JUDY > _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071210/39fbcb49/attachment.html From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Tue Dec 11 12:05:22 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:05:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] sunday ghost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <450603.26093.qm {a+} web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Thanks Paula.....The ubu links are wonderful. I had never seen the Buster Keaton / Evergreen theater film. I am in an apartment in exactly such a tenement building in NY. I recognize the hallways and the molding on the walls despite 42 years of shabby renovation. JUDY Paula V???lez Bravo wrote: merci manu. voici j'ai trouv??? ce link, qui n'est pas reli??? directement au sunday ghost... listen this audio link not related to sunday ghost but to samuel beckett http://www.ubu.com/aspen/aspen5and6/audio5A.html this videos are very good for inspiration maybe.??? http://www.ubu.com/film/beckett.html i dont know if you have that link ubu web, it is very good one i think. paula _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071211/335a2ab5/attachment.html From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Tue Dec 11 18:41:38 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:41:38 +0100 Subject: [aether] a marvelous fantasio rescripture von the SPOOKY TRIO de beket Message-ID: <475ECBD2.9070708 {a+} n3krozoft.com> hi all, > on the script it is writen, next to act 1 /scene 1-3 : "7 frames with text to upload in 3 minutes" what does this mean? > Paula: if she does frame n. 6 as agreed on the skype (in her absence...), then she needs: 1 assisant or 1 actor (woman or man?) + 1 boy > the wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Trio_%28play%29) is very interesting. we learn there that Beckett added things in some of his tv shows that aren't written, for example the "final smile" of F. -- > music: - i didn't produced anything, contradictory to what i announced yesterday on skype. questions: - do we want to use Beethoven?s Piano Trio? If yes, do we want to respect more or less the indications from Beckett OR do we want to freely play with this trio, with mixed loops or samples for example? (i understand that the uploaded music is only a fraction of the second movement of the trio. all the music indicated by Beckett commes from this second movement. i do not have the full piece - i uploaded, for the sake of the example, the part that goes with "Act1, l.31" - i also uploaded a couple nice loops). - There's very little (faint) music in the original indications (repertoried in the wikipedia page). - If we decide to use musical elements, is there sound appart from this music, for example do we want to stream some sounds of aint winds? Or "pastel noise"? - Judy, how do you generally feel this music part? What are your ideas? > announcment - we should prepare more carefully our announcments that what we have done so far. for this performance, i suggest we prepare a nice announcment that we send to friends and people who might be interested from our adress books, but that we do not send it yet to zillions of adresses (from institution-digital-net-theatre-plastic-art-etc- world) as i guess we will do this performance again. i think we should do this kind of big marketink operation for the next time, once we are more ready and experienced with this Beckett adaptation. but If you think we should do it now anyways, ok then. - so please everybody centralise your adresses in 1 document and send it to manuel who will make 1 big mailing list so that 1 general announcment from an aether9 adresse. - all suggestions for text and mail-design welcome. - should we care of rights? music and beckett? what's our approach here? From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Tue Dec 11 20:23:31 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:23:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] RE : Re: novi sad - participation In-Reply-To: <768448.24763.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <238077.82165.qm {a+} web26102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hi all, i can be free at 22h saturday and before the 14th december so if it's possible to have a rehearsal and make a repetition the 13th during the afternoon or the evening? Laure: i try to add your skypename laure.dit but location is in the bangladesh? maybe i had not read well cheers Nathalie so from now who will participate for sure geneva, colombia,switzerland here in brussels we can be at least 3 (boris chloe and i)- nathalie what are you up to ? since we must be at least 4 for the ghost trio frame story-telling, there can be 2 in brussels if nobody else wants to make it. please confirm the time for tonight. laure --- cym net schrieb: > Hello Aethers > > So i arranged that i will drive to Novi Sad on > friday and back on > monday, to be at the festival and do an introduction > about aether9. > > Luka will also be there and as i understood he will > make live sound to > the performance? > > For me, i don't really want to take part in the > performance, but i > would like to do the coordination around it, be on > skype with you > directly in novi sad to communicate the exact time > to start. To make > sure that the projection and sound at the venue are > as they should be > and try to document the situation at the venue for > you who are not > there. > > And i would like to make a short introduction to the > audience, how > aether9 started, how it developed and maybe a short > introduction about > the story that is going to be played. For this I > would need > information from you, what you want to tell, who is > playing, from > which locations and whatever else you think is > important that i should > tell there. > > I would like to be in Novi Sad as a contact person, > someone people can > talk to if anyone has questions about the > performance, to explain the > project, give infomation and to do the > documentation. And to be the > contact between the live space and all of you on > Skype or IRC. > > Did you already agree on some dates and times for > rehearsals? It would > be good if i am also at the rehearsals, so i know > what you will be > playing on Saturday. > > For now the transmission is scheduled for 23:15 > local time in Novi Sad > on Saturday, December 15 > (and right after the performance, at midnight it > will be my birthday :-) > > I haven't had much time lately, i am working day and > night on a > publication that should be finished this week. But i > hope to bring the > publication to the printer's on Thursday, so i will > have my mind free > for Aether9 on Friday. > > Greetings, > > cym > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? www.yahoo.de/mail _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071211/e36452d8/attachment.html From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Tue Dec 11 20:35:41 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:35:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] rehearsal yesterday evening Message-ID: <118809.79984.qm {a+} web26109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hi again someone saved the chat rehearsal yesterday evening? i wanted to read it thanks N. --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071211/7a12b9f0/attachment.html From theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org Mon Dec 10 18:21:00 2007 From: theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org (The League of Imaginary Scientists) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:21:00 +0100 Subject: [aether] ghost files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HI hi! So I am going to be in transit this week - traveling from Berlin to LA Wednesday into Thursday - I could participate Fri and Sat, though will be somewhat jet-lagged - let me know and I will get into form... LUCY/League On 12/9/07 2:00 PM, "1.1 [*] 1904.cc" <1.1 [*] 1904.cc> wrote: > hi, > as postings on this list are limited to 777 KB, > the attachments sent by Chloe > (ghost_trio_txt.zip) and Judy > (abinadimeza_Rainfall.ogg) have been uploaded > here: > http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ > > more soon, > manu. > > ----- > > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 06:47:00 +0100 > From: "chlo? cramer" > > connected to the preceding mail, here is the complete text of the ghost trio > > ghost_trio_txt.zip > > > ----- > > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:38:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Judy Nylon > Subject: Re: [aether] ghost nano > > Laure...Chloe...Aether crew, > > > This script is a most interesting choice for > aether; I can visualize it done by aether as > you?ve written it. I also > have a copy of Beckett's original to read alongside your script. If we are > now able to have sound..... may I suggest this attached sample of the rain > mentioned in Act 3 ? It is a 11 MG ogg. If it is too large, I will change > format and send again. > > I could, as well, provide the Voice (female, faint & dispassionate). I think > this might be done either live or as MP3s triggered by F (if they are > recorded strictly respecting the 5 second intervals, they might provide a > sort of metronome.) > > I did notice that you have left off all reference to sound other than the > first "waiting for starting, the voice to start". Is that by choice? Or > directed by a tech logistic I am unaware of? > > I am available to rehearse any of the times Laure has posted in the calendar > and now have a sound producer/engineer friend who is interested enough to > assist me. It is 3 AM here in NYC now but I will give this more attention > tomorrow. > > I use sound samples from: > > http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php > > They are usually CC licensed as OK for profit but > must be credited to source. The one attached was > from abinadimeza. > > G'nite All....Laure & Chloe...I am paljudy on > skype; we could speak so that you might hear the > voice style I have in mind. > > JUDY > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether The League of Imaginary Scientists From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Tue Dec 11 22:06:02 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:06:02 -0500 Subject: [aether] novi sad In-Reply-To: <494748.21722.qm {a+} web62307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <494748.21722.qm {a+} web62307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <038FF35D-999C-4772-B98D-1F1D8E298311 {a+} une.net.co> HELLO! sorry , because I wasn't there yesterday in skype meeting....but i have read everything already, the chat conversation. i will participate. i could be able to work with you since today, even wesnesday, thursday, friday, saturday and SUNDAY for cym birthday, yes! so i confirm meeting wesnesday. i confirme to use the 6th frame. and to be with a 8 year old boy. paula From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Tue Dec 11 22:06:53 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:06:53 -0500 Subject: [aether] sunday ghost In-Reply-To: <450603.26093.qm {a+} web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <450603.26093.qm {a+} web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5E38BEA7-5176-4A96-AA40-BFBC52C84666 {a+} une.net.co> great! i'm happy you like it. paula El 11/12/2007, a las 6:05, Judy Nylon escribi?: > Thanks Paula.....The ubu links are wonderful. I had never seen the > Buster Keaton / Evergreen theater film. I am in an apartment in > exactly such a tenement building in NY. I recognize the hallways > and the molding on the walls despite 42 years of shabby > renovation. JUDY > > Paula V???lez Bravo wrote: > merci manu. > > voici j'ai trouv??? ce link, qui n'est pas reli??? directement au > sunday ghost... listen this audio link not related to sunday ghost > but to samuel beckett > > http://www.ubu.com/aspen/aspen5and6/audio5A.html > > this videos are very good for inspiration maybe.??? > > http://www.ubu.com/film/beckett.html > > i dont know if you have that link ubu web, it is very good one i > think. > > paula > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! > Search. > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071211/29e24203/attachment.html From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Wed Dec 12 00:09:52 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:09:52 -0500 Subject: [aether] copy de skype chat In-Reply-To: <118809.79984.qm {a+} web26109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <118809.79984.qm {a+} web26109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:10 paula's not online so far paljudy 10/12/07 16:10 My co-pilot isn't here yet. Dubai seems dreamlike.The agenda of topic is? who does what? when is a run through? fe2cruz a?adi? a cym a este chat 10/12/07 16:10 fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:10 don't see cym either paljudy 10/12/07 16:10 Be right back....delivery downstairs.... boris 10/12/07 16:10 aether, can you ad nathalie fougeras? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:10 so we are not going to rehearse now, just get things all set. when would be the general rehearsal ? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:10 who is taking part to the performance 10/12/07 16:10 ? fe2cruz a?adi? a nathalie a este chat 10/12/07 16:10 laure.dit 10/12/07 16:11 brussels, la , geneva, colombia for frames boris 10/12/07 16:11 i understand we need 6 performers ideally - is that number korrekt? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:11 nyc for sound boris 10/12/07 16:11 6 performers + sound ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:11 brussels coud have at least 2 frames laure.dit 10/12/07 16:11 ideally yes fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:11 i'm workin on my frames now. if i can't get it i'll do it with a friend who's got a mac laure.dit 10/12/07 16:12 brussels can take care of room place frame, and adjust and take care of the text 10/12/07 16:12 sorry for my english boris 10/12/07 16:13 2 text frames + 4 image frames aether9 10/12/07 16:13 i'm ready to do any of the frames as needed 10/12/07 16:13 and one great news: laure.dit 10/12/07 16:13 nath alie are you available on saturday ? aether9 10/12/07 16:13 i just designed an interactive text box boris 10/12/07 16:13 here in brussels, i propose that one unit take care of one of the text frame - the other unit can take care of 1 image frame ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:13 what does it mean, manuel? boris 10/12/07 16:14 INTERACTIVE TEXT BOX - 10/12/07 16:14 public feedback apparatus 10/12/07 16:14 hit at the hierarchy of mass communication 10/12/07 16:14 YES!!! aether9 10/12/07 16:14 yes, it's at http://1904.cc/~aether/html/mainframe.html ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:14 no, the unit who takes care of the text manage the 2 frames of text paljudy 10/12/07 16:14 could the text me handewriten where we'd see a moving hand or is it set for a character generator? aether9 10/12/07 16:14 the colors, font, etc.. can still be subject to modification fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:14 i don't see nath alie online yet. what's the live element gonna be like in dubai? paljudy 10/12/07 16:15 ah...OK ...character generated then laure.dit 10/12/07 16:15 ok boris 10/12/07 16:15 ok chlo? boris 10/12/07 16:16 dubai is a hoax ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:16 ok for a character generated text paljudy 10/12/07 16:16 which languages/ fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:16 i don't see the text box yet aether9 10/12/07 16:17 chris, it's here 10/12/07 16:17 http://1904.cc/aether/shoutbox/index.php fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:17 oh two differnt pages aether9 10/12/07 16:17 if you opened the live page before, you might need to refresh the browser's cache... boris 10/12/07 16:17 ok so you're working on it manu? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:18 its fun manu fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:18 SWEEEEEEET aether9 10/12/07 16:18 it's a possible way for net.audience reaction.. 10/12/07 16:19 all what is typed is stored in a text file.. http://1904.cc/aether/ shoutbox/db.txt fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:19 there can be an applause now cym 10/12/07 16:19 great ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:20 so could you have 2 frames like that? 10/12/07 16:20 in order to have the text directly uploaded like that? aether9 10/12/07 16:21 you mean for the english/french/xxx text? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:21 can we change the color of the background and the size of the letters? 10/12/07 16:21 yes, thats what I mean paljudy 10/12/07 16:22 are we going with monochrome blk wht greys? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:22 ok, since F face should only be visible in the third act and in frame 5, i suggest that all the F wear a black hood sweater aether9 10/12/07 16:22 clo?: yes, possible.. we could also have a set of such windows where the "input box" would be in another page (only for the performers) laure.dit 10/12/07 16:22 yes black and white or very lightly colored ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:23 great manuel! laure.dit 10/12/07 16:23 that would be very good (chlo? manu) paljudy 10/12/07 16:23 ....a water spritzer bottle so that the child costume and windows appear wet & support the sound of rain....... cym 10/12/07 16:23 maybe there should be one textframe only with input from performers to announce things and one for audience to type ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:23 I wish it is either very colored (a colection of monochromes), or black and white boris 10/12/07 16:23 so then we need one person in charge of the text (we don't need 2 persons) laure.dit 10/12/07 16:24 window, pallet, and door should always be kind of back to camera ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:24 the "slightly colored" seemes too difficult to manage. laure.dit 10/12/07 16:24 no its effects ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:24 each "slightly colored will be different... laure.dit 10/12/07 16:24 on the patch 10/12/07 16:24 but maybe youre right ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:24 difficult to say without a try 10/12/07 16:25 maybe we can choose on the rehearsal day laure.dit 10/12/07 16:25 black and wight would be smarter 10/12/07 16:25 true ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:25 can we agree on a rehearsal day? 10/12/07 16:25 I'd like thursady afternoon... aether9 10/12/07 16:25 i'm available all week except thursday / Jeudi evening 10/12/07 16:26 from 5 on. boris 10/12/07 16:26 i propose friday afternoon or evening laure.dit 10/12/07 16:26 so depending on peoples interior who wants to be with the stool, the door the pallet and the window ?????? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:26 I have troubles with evenings... 10/12/07 16:27 except if we agree on midnight. 10/12/07 16:28 Laure, I would like to upload the text. boris 10/12/07 16:28 so chlo? will upload the text from brussels. i would love to do the pallet! laure.dit 10/12/07 16:28 im very busy all week, b and c should you take care of the acting and image, and ill take care of the text ? 10/12/07 16:29 sorry just read your message 10/12/07 16:29 boris dont you want to be in frame 5 ? 10/12/07 16:29 with the cassette ? 10/12/07 16:31 rehearsal time, friday early evening ? 10/12/07 16:31 brxl time aether9 10/12/07 16:31 ok, but we certainly need more than one rehearsal. 10/12/07 16:31 if we could also rehearse on wednesday already, that would be not bad 10/12/07 16:32 there are quite a lot of parameters to control... ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:32 I have trouble with friday evening 10/12/07 16:32 I am in Paris for job opportunities aether9 10/12/07 16:32 so which time, on friday? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:32 wednesday midnght ? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:32 I like friday, but is midnight a possibility? fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:32 wednesday & friday my vote ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:33 boris, laure and I can't do it before laure.dit 10/12/07 16:33 good at least we agree on the day ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:33 bxl time... laure.dit 10/12/07 16:33 paula do you follow ? 10/12/07 16:33 wednesday and friday midnight fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:33 i'll stay online and forward her the info when she pops back on ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:33 wdnesday, midnight. OK laure.dit 10/12/07 16:33 thanks chris ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:34 OK laure cym 10/12/07 16:34 wednesday would be good ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:34 and we rehearse one more time on saturday, early evening? paljudy 10/12/07 16:34 all these times & days are ok for me as they are late afternoon here boris 10/12/07 16:34 i'm available: tuesday: from midnight on wednesday: morning, afternoon and from midnight on thursday: morning, between 5 to 8 and from midnight on friday: all the time saturday: all the time ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:34 also for cym to get ready for the real transmission? fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:34 do we know whose assigned to which frames? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:35 no, not yet chris cym 10/12/07 16:35 on friday and saturday i can probably not see the rehearsal, only on wednesday laure.dit 10/12/07 16:35 so wednesday midnight, friday midnight, and saturday 8 pm ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:35 ok, this allready good boris 10/12/07 16:35 ok ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:35 is saturday 8pm allright for everybody? fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:36 yes all bxl time right boris 10/12/07 16:36 ok ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:36 right paljudy 10/12/07 16:36 OK 8PM bxl time sat aether9 10/12/07 16:36 ok for me, wed + fri midnight as well cym 10/12/07 16:36 i don't know about the place in novi sad where the performance will be, but i think that they use it for other presentations before ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:37 I am not sure for friday night... fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:37 have you tested the internet connection there cym? cym 10/12/07 16:37 i am not there ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:37 but if I am doing the text, it is not so bad cym 10/12/07 16:38 i will go there on friday laure.dit 10/12/07 16:38 yes paljudy 10/12/07 16:38 23:15 | LIVE Screening room 2 Projekciona sala.....this is the room listed boris 10/12/07 16:38 judy - you'll pre-record your voice, right? paljudy 10/12/07 16:38 no I will do the vox live and mix the rain and music via Abelton Live cym 10/12/07 16:38 they have a full programm, so i think there are other screenings before us on saturday evening in the same room fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:39 that's cool we're almost plug&play now anyway ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:39 can we do a check? It is necessary to know when... maybe saturday morning? cym 10/12/07 16:39 check what? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:39 nice that you do everything live, Judy boris 10/12/07 16:40 Judy: ok. i would like to fool around with beethoven's "ghost trio" later tonite - i'll post the resusts tommorow morning - i dont care if we don't use it paljudy 10/12/07 16:40 I is fun and I have done a lot of Vox over ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:40 check if it works in the screening place aether9 10/12/07 16:40 cym, the room appears to be used from 19:15 on saturday, not earlier. boris 10/12/07 16:40 faint voice... grrr fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:40 judy do you have stuff to mix for preshow and post show? paljudy 10/12/07 16:40 Great....I wanted to dub it and play with it...... cym 10/12/07 16:41 so i will check the setup before 19:00 paljudy 10/12/07 16:41 I adore Becket and gre up with the 'vox' he refers to ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:41 yes, let's do it at 7pm 10/12/07 16:41 rehearsal 5 pm. boris 10/12/07 16:42 so far we have the following frames: > yorba linda > brussels > geneva we still need 3 frames fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:42 6 non txt visual? boris 10/12/07 16:43 we need 1 more visual: paula? paljudy 10/12/07 16:43 what is going on with the dust frames.....the greys....what is in those frames exactly? boris 10/12/07 16:43 1 of these frames will be users feedback fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:43 so just 4 visual total? boris 10/12/07 16:43 2 grays will be there laure.dit 10/12/07 16:43 no boris we must have 4 active frames and thats what we have, two other are text, and the three of below are shades of grey boris 10/12/07 16:43 4 visual total + 2 text laure.dit 10/12/07 16:43 and dust boris 10/12/07 16:43 so where's the audience feedback box? paljudy 10/12/07 16:44 can the greys be vid so there is subtle movement? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:44 we can put it in the greys 10/12/07 16:44 there will be judy fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:44 the txt shoutbox is a test in its own webpage still 10/12/07 16:44 http://1904.cc/aether/shoutbox/index.php aether9 10/12/07 16:44 one person could be in charge of doing "very nice" greys... 10/12/07 16:45 dusty floors etc laure.dit 10/12/07 16:45 can we accredit fr2, 4, , 5, 6 ? 10/12/07 16:46 please fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:46 i'll take whatever frame you want me to be aether9 10/12/07 16:46 i'd do the window, for instance (fr 2) paljudy 10/12/07 16:46 I want to be clear....I am not currently set up to be seen only heard. OK? boris 10/12/07 16:47 yes! 10/12/07 16:47 something was unclear - but you'll be heard only. paljudy 10/12/07 16:47 OK boris 10/12/07 16:48 i'll gladly do frame 4 (the pallet) or 5 (the sitting dude) fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:48 well maybe I should get the easiest active frame just incase i have technical issues laure.dit 10/12/07 16:49 well chris then maybe take the window aether9 10/12/07 16:49 either the window, or some artistic grey shapes.. ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:50 we need 4 performers manuel. laure.dit 10/12/07 16:50 are we sure paulas participating ? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:50 you should do the door boris 10/12/07 16:50 she said she wishes too. ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:50 with the corridor stuff that is a little bit more complicated aether9 10/12/07 16:50 paula wrote me she wants to participate. boris 10/12/07 16:50 so we must assume paula participates. aether9 10/12/07 16:51 maybe she could also provide the boy ? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:51 and does the door. pk 10/12/07 16:51 ok paljudy 10/12/07 16:51 Chris and I found the time lag to be 6 sec. on sound last night. I have sung live through a n old space station before so I don't expect a problem once we have the flow of the action ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:51 of course, if she does the door she provides the boy fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:51 paula will be here later. i'm sure. laure.dit 10/12/07 16:51 if its too complicate to get the boy or the shot of a corridor, in order to be effective, theses images could be pre-recorded boris 10/12/07 16:52 she akways has kids in her frames running behind klike on tarkovsky's space ship 10/12/07 16:52 always ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:52 yes,b ut still... 10/12/07 16:52 ok: fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:52 is it ok if i get horses to run behind me? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:53 paula: frame 6 10/12/07 16:53 boris frame 5 10/12/07 16:53 chris frame 2 boris 10/12/07 16:53 camels please ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:53 me frame 1 and 3 10/12/07 16:53 laure frame 4? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:53 perfect ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:53 manuel ok: frame 4 laure.dit 10/12/07 16:53 i thought i was filming boris ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:54 Laure, you do the frame 5 with boris laure.dit 10/12/07 16:54 ?! ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:54 rright boris 10/12/07 16:54 laure and me: frame 5. laure.dit 10/12/07 16:55 do u people agree with the black hood, in order to make clearer the hide of the face ? aether9 10/12/07 16:55 ok so... should i do frame 4? could also do frame 5 if boris wants the pallett.. 10/12/07 16:56 black hood: that's exactly what i was thinking fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:56 as opposed to a vail or hankerchief? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:56 boris ? do you want to change ? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:56 chloe: frame 1 & 3 chris: frame 2 Manuel: frame 4 Boris: frame 5 Paula (+ kid) : frame6 frame 7 - 8 : gray (who's taking care opf this?) frame 9: spectator reaction laure.dit 10/12/07 16:56 good lisa aether9 10/12/07 16:57 any more ideas regarding the "look" of the caracter , clothing... 10/12/07 16:57 ? fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:57 we could just prerecord some greys right, and let them run autopilot? boris 10/12/07 16:57 well i have a pallet at home, so why not, sure! laure.dit 10/12/07 16:57 yes chris ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:57 the character is weraing a long black coat laure.dit 10/12/07 16:57 boris youre in FRAME 5 fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:58 should windowboy2 wear anything in particular? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:58 window boy is F, and wears a black hood ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:58 the same laure.dit 10/12/07 16:58 F is one person, demultplicated in 4 spaces 10/12/07 16:59 of one same room aether9 10/12/07 16:59 yes, obviously the caracter should look as similar as possible fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:59 black hood, lets all have as many coats during the rehersal available to try to match. aether9 10/12/07 17:00 while reading the text, i had an image in mind of a photo of Georges Demen?, assistant to Marey (inventor of "chronophotography") laure.dit 10/12/07 17:00 yeah... but lets concentrate on the hood aether9 10/12/07 17:00 where he's wearing an all black costume to record movements 10/12/07 17:00 there is a very bad version of that picture here: laure.dit 10/12/07 17:01 interesting aether9 10/12/07 17:01 http://amif.club.fr/francais/mag/marey/Image10.jpg laure.dit 10/12/07 17:01 nice, very nice aether9 10/12/07 17:01 will try to find the original photo and send it to you fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:02 like a beekeeper in a catsuit boris 10/12/07 17:03 so all black with black hood? fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:03 oh yeah besides the clothes what mandetory props are needed? laure.dit 10/12/07 17:03 yes 10/12/07 17:03 mandetory props, whats that ? aether9 10/12/07 17:04 for your frame, chris: none laure.dit 10/12/07 17:04 mandetory props, whats that ? boris 10/12/07 17:04 props = accessoires paljudy 10/12/07 17:04 Costume wet windows wet..spray with water.....act 3 need a spay bottle fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:04 cassette, stool 10/12/07 17:04 mirror 10/12/07 17:05 just anything else we should bring to the rehesal to be prepared paljudy 10/12/07 17:05 thing to controal the light so it has no origin 10/12/07 17:06 deflectors boris 10/12/07 17:06 diffuse light, ok. laure.dit 10/12/07 17:06 these are more or less details that we will have to adjust on wednesday boris 10/12/07 17:06 no shadows? fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:06 but bright even light all over so its easy right? laure.dit 10/12/07 17:07 if possible no aether9 10/12/07 17:07 bright light, but you need to soften it so there are no sharp shadows.. fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:08 we can adjust the contrast levels if we have issue though right? aether9 10/12/07 17:08 actually it's great if chris makes the window part, since he will have an early california afternoon, while novi sad is in deep night and fog.. fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:08 might be cloudy or rainy dark afternoon here though boris 10/12/07 17:09 question: a "hood" - it covers the face (leaving holes for eyes and mouth) or not? fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:09 yeah are we talkin hoodie or mask? paljudy 10/12/07 17:09 at one last moment the face is seen in act 3 no......so it should be a domino style hood laure.dit 10/12/07 17:10 judy im not so sure about "ghost given" for the title? should we keep ghost trio in regard to the music, or ghost quattro for the 4 acting frames, or ghost nano, for all the frames ? what do you all think ? paljudy 10/12/07 17:10 fine....just fooling around 10/12/07 17:10 I don't love nanao boris 10/12/07 17:10 domino style - waza? 10/12/07 17:11 ghost unforgiven paljudy 10/12/07 17:11 venice....carnival stylee boris 10/12/07 17:11 aha. 10/12/07 17:11 ok fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:11 ghost in dutch is spook! paljudy 10/12/07 17:11 wow...good laure.dit 10/12/07 17:12 the face should not be completely hidden, it should stay in the shadow of the hood 10/12/07 17:12 whats ghost in serbian ? boris 10/12/07 17:13 Judy - what style do you mean? --> http://images.google.be/images? q=mask%20venice&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en- US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:13 I suggest a hat that is making a shadow on the face fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:13 duh, du?a, prikaza 10/12/07 17:13 http://www.stars21.com/translator/english_to_serbian.html ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:13 no mask. it is beckett, minimalist. cym 10/12/07 17:14 duh is good, it fits in three frames ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:14 duh trio 10/12/07 17:14 ? boris 10/12/07 17:14 naaa sounds bad in latin fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:15 duy rio yo aether9 10/12/07 17:15 i suggest a basic streetware hood, as we will never manage to have a similar hat... fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:15 duh trio yo 10/12/07 17:15 ghost trio is fine with me laure.dit 10/12/07 17:15 yes i agree with aether cym 10/12/07 17:15 ghost trio is better fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:15 wutang hoodie it is! ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:15 a agree with aether and chris fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:17 http://www.netweed.com/prohiphop/graf/wutanglogo2.jpg aether9 10/12/07 17:17 beyond the hood, we could try to stick to thight black clothing fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:18 i think i can manage all black pants and shirt that fit fairly tight but nothing skin tight boris 10/12/07 17:19 fantomas ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:19 I like the wu tang style paljudy 10/12/07 17:19 nothing like ballet....... ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:19 sweater with hood 10/12/07 17:19 black pant 10/12/07 17:19 easy to find laure.dit 10/12/07 17:20 doesent matter if its not too tight, i mean its symbolic, everybody dressed in black with a hood, everybody the same ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:20 hides the difference of body between different performers fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:20 but you guys still want color in each active frame or can we go greyscale? ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:20 we will try on wednesday fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:21 b/w would make it easier to match laure.dit 10/12/07 17:21 yeah, do we need to fix anything more until then ? ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:21 how it looks like all grey and how it is with one blue-red-green frame (frames 2-4-6) fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:21 i think we got it all, better let it go before we start debating on what shoes to wear paljudy 10/12/07 17:21 another issue is letting people know we are doing this.....I will post Node1 (UK) and Myspace for reposts and use a friends emailing list.......what else Mailing list & inclusionary invitation (I will write one in English to my mailing list of people unfamiliar with viewing events on line) to expand the on-line audience. Could we use VOIP numbers or IM to walk potential audience members through getting their computers configured?.help being available up to one hour before broadcast? If not this time?maybe next time or provided by the gallery ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:21 lets see each other on wedneday- 10/12/07 17:22 dressed with approp?riate clothes, maybe several choices 10/12/07 17:22 framing appropriate space fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:23 cool yeah judy could youforward that nice invitation earlier to manuel to give to the big mailing list? paljudy 10/12/07 17:23 yes fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:23 like a nice warm letter rather than an annoying annoucement boris 10/12/07 17:23 fantomas: 10/12/07 17:23 http://www.septimovicio.com/datos/sjff_01_img0516.jpg http://www.oeil-ecran.com/images/vampires.jpg paljudy 10/12/07 17:23 with charm aether9 10/12/07 17:24 boris: that's irma vep boris 10/12/07 17:24 yes a really sweet announcment? 10/12/07 17:24 irma vep - vampire - related to fantomas somewhat fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:24 should we scratch in fin like in assayas irma vep aether9 10/12/07 17:25 yeah. .definitively material for a future aether show... ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:25 see you on wednesday guys fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:25 ok thanks everyone see you wed paljudy 10/12/07 17:25 final///details or wed? 10/12/07 17:25 time boris 10/12/07 17:25 for the announcment: let's not do it at the last moment! paljudy 10/12/07 17:26 right away champ fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:26 wed midnight bxl cym 10/12/07 17:26 ok see you wednesday 10/12/07 17:26 midnight? okay paljudy 10/12/07 17:26 OK aether9 10/12/07 17:26 ok boris 10/12/07 17:26 everybody collects his emails and we make a big powerfull adressboog database and send it 10/12/07 17:26 on wednesday nite! 10/12/07 17:27 see you then. fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:27 ok cu cym 10/12/07 17:27 ok boris 10/12/07 17:27 bye all! paljudy 10/12/07 17:27 OK.....bye....will check for Boris's dub when I get up laure.dit 10/12/07 17:27 bye boris 10/12/07 17:28 ok From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Wed Dec 12 02:22:24 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:22:24 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] RE : Re: copy de skype chat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <344418.19299.qm {a+} web26109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hi ok thanks paula sorry i was busy these last days.. just finish to read the chat i can be in the rehearsal wednesday and friday evening (midnight) but saturday only 9 or 10pm if you want someone else yet? because i think you have already all windows busy.. tell me..(maybe these grey windows to anime by a video..) cheers Nathalie Paula V?lez Bravo a ?crit : fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:10 paula's not online so far paljudy 10/12/07 16:10 My co-pilot isn't here yet. Dubai seems dreamlike.The agenda of topic is? who does what? when is a run through? fe2cruz a?adi? a cym a este chat 10/12/07 16:10 fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:10 don't see cym either paljudy 10/12/07 16:10 Be right back....delivery downstairs.... boris 10/12/07 16:10 aether, can you ad nathalie fougeras? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:10 so we are not going to rehearse now, just get things all set. when would be the general rehearsal ? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:10 who is taking part to the performance 10/12/07 16:10 ? fe2cruz a?adi? a nathalie a este chat 10/12/07 16:10 laure.dit 10/12/07 16:11 brussels, la , geneva, colombia for frames boris 10/12/07 16:11 i understand we need 6 performers ideally - is that number korrekt? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:11 nyc for sound boris 10/12/07 16:11 6 performers + sound ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:11 brussels coud have at least 2 frames laure.dit 10/12/07 16:11 ideally yes fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:11 i'm workin on my frames now. if i can't get it i'll do it with a friend who's got a mac laure.dit 10/12/07 16:12 brussels can take care of room place frame, and adjust and take care of the text 10/12/07 16:12 sorry for my english boris 10/12/07 16:13 2 text frames + 4 image frames aether9 10/12/07 16:13 i'm ready to do any of the frames as needed 10/12/07 16:13 and one great news: laure.dit 10/12/07 16:13 nath alie are you available on saturday ? aether9 10/12/07 16:13 i just designed an interactive text box boris 10/12/07 16:13 here in brussels, i propose that one unit take care of one of the text frame - the other unit can take care of 1 image frame ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:13 what does it mean, manuel? boris 10/12/07 16:14 INTERACTIVE TEXT BOX - 10/12/07 16:14 public feedback apparatus 10/12/07 16:14 hit at the hierarchy of mass communication 10/12/07 16:14 YES!!! aether9 10/12/07 16:14 yes, it's at http://1904.cc/~aether/html/mainframe.html ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:14 no, the unit who takes care of the text manage the 2 frames of text paljudy 10/12/07 16:14 could the text me handewriten where we'd see a moving hand or is it set for a character generator? aether9 10/12/07 16:14 the colors, font, etc.. can still be subject to modification fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:14 i don't see nath alie online yet. what's the live element gonna be like in dubai? paljudy 10/12/07 16:15 ah...OK ...character generated then laure.dit 10/12/07 16:15 ok boris 10/12/07 16:15 ok chlo? boris 10/12/07 16:16 dubai is a hoax ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:16 ok for a character generated text paljudy 10/12/07 16:16 which languages/ fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:16 i don't see the text box yet aether9 10/12/07 16:17 chris, it's here 10/12/07 16:17 http://1904.cc/aether/shoutbox/index.php fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:17 oh two differnt pages aether9 10/12/07 16:17 if you opened the live page before, you might need to refresh the browser's cache... boris 10/12/07 16:17 ok so you're working on it manu? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:18 its fun manu fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:18 SWEEEEEEET aether9 10/12/07 16:18 it's a possible way for net.audience reaction.. 10/12/07 16:19 all what is typed is stored in a text file.. http://1904.cc/aether/ shoutbox/db.txt fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:19 there can be an applause now cym 10/12/07 16:19 great ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:20 so could you have 2 frames like that? 10/12/07 16:20 in order to have the text directly uploaded like that? aether9 10/12/07 16:21 you mean for the english/french/xxx text? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:21 can we change the color of the background and the size of the letters? 10/12/07 16:21 yes, thats what I mean paljudy 10/12/07 16:22 are we going with monochrome blk wht greys? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:22 ok, since F face should only be visible in the third act and in frame 5, i suggest that all the F wear a black hood sweater aether9 10/12/07 16:22 clo?: yes, possible.. we could also have a set of such windows where the "input box" would be in another page (only for the performers) laure.dit 10/12/07 16:22 yes black and white or very lightly colored ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:23 great manuel! laure.dit 10/12/07 16:23 that would be very good (chlo? manu) paljudy 10/12/07 16:23 ....a water spritzer bottle so that the child costume and windows appear wet & support the sound of rain....... cym 10/12/07 16:23 maybe there should be one textframe only with input from performers to announce things and one for audience to type ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:23 I wish it is either very colored (a colection of monochromes), or black and white boris 10/12/07 16:23 so then we need one person in charge of the text (we don't need 2 persons) laure.dit 10/12/07 16:24 window, pallet, and door should always be kind of back to camera ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:24 the "slightly colored" seemes too difficult to manage. laure.dit 10/12/07 16:24 no its effects ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:24 each "slightly colored will be different... laure.dit 10/12/07 16:24 on the patch 10/12/07 16:24 but maybe youre right ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:24 difficult to say without a try 10/12/07 16:25 maybe we can choose on the rehearsal day laure.dit 10/12/07 16:25 black and wight would be smarter 10/12/07 16:25 true ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:25 can we agree on a rehearsal day? 10/12/07 16:25 I'd like thursady afternoon... aether9 10/12/07 16:25 i'm available all week except thursday / Jeudi evening 10/12/07 16:26 from 5 on. boris 10/12/07 16:26 i propose friday afternoon or evening laure.dit 10/12/07 16:26 so depending on peoples interior who wants to be with the stool, the door the pallet and the window ?????? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:26 I have troubles with evenings... 10/12/07 16:27 except if we agree on midnight. 10/12/07 16:28 Laure, I would like to upload the text. boris 10/12/07 16:28 so chlo? will upload the text from brussels. i would love to do the pallet! laure.dit 10/12/07 16:28 im very busy all week, b and c should you take care of the acting and image, and ill take care of the text ? 10/12/07 16:29 sorry just read your message 10/12/07 16:29 boris dont you want to be in frame 5 ? 10/12/07 16:29 with the cassette ? 10/12/07 16:31 rehearsal time, friday early evening ? 10/12/07 16:31 brxl time aether9 10/12/07 16:31 ok, but we certainly need more than one rehearsal. 10/12/07 16:31 if we could also rehearse on wednesday already, that would be not bad 10/12/07 16:32 there are quite a lot of parameters to control... ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:32 I have trouble with friday evening 10/12/07 16:32 I am in Paris for job opportunities aether9 10/12/07 16:32 so which time, on friday? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:32 wednesday midnght ? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:32 I like friday, but is midnight a possibility? fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:32 wednesday & friday my vote ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:33 boris, laure and I can't do it before laure.dit 10/12/07 16:33 good at least we agree on the day ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:33 bxl time... laure.dit 10/12/07 16:33 paula do you follow ? 10/12/07 16:33 wednesday and friday midnight fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:33 i'll stay online and forward her the info when she pops back on ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:33 wdnesday, midnight. OK laure.dit 10/12/07 16:33 thanks chris ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:34 OK laure cym 10/12/07 16:34 wednesday would be good ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:34 and we rehearse one more time on saturday, early evening? paljudy 10/12/07 16:34 all these times & days are ok for me as they are late afternoon here boris 10/12/07 16:34 i'm available: tuesday: from midnight on wednesday: morning, afternoon and from midnight on thursday: morning, between 5 to 8 and from midnight on friday: all the time saturday: all the time ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:34 also for cym to get ready for the real transmission? fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:34 do we know whose assigned to which frames? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:35 no, not yet chris cym 10/12/07 16:35 on friday and saturday i can probably not see the rehearsal, only on wednesday laure.dit 10/12/07 16:35 so wednesday midnight, friday midnight, and saturday 8 pm ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:35 ok, this allready good boris 10/12/07 16:35 ok ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:35 is saturday 8pm allright for everybody? fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:36 yes all bxl time right boris 10/12/07 16:36 ok ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:36 right paljudy 10/12/07 16:36 OK 8PM bxl time sat aether9 10/12/07 16:36 ok for me, wed + fri midnight as well cym 10/12/07 16:36 i don't know about the place in novi sad where the performance will be, but i think that they use it for other presentations before ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:37 I am not sure for friday night... fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:37 have you tested the internet connection there cym? cym 10/12/07 16:37 i am not there ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:37 but if I am doing the text, it is not so bad cym 10/12/07 16:38 i will go there on friday laure.dit 10/12/07 16:38 yes paljudy 10/12/07 16:38 23:15 | LIVE Screening room 2 Projekciona sala.....this is the room listed boris 10/12/07 16:38 judy - you'll pre-record your voice, right? paljudy 10/12/07 16:38 no I will do the vox live and mix the rain and music via Abelton Live cym 10/12/07 16:38 they have a full programm, so i think there are other screenings before us on saturday evening in the same room fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:39 that's cool we're almost plug&play now anyway ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:39 can we do a check? It is necessary to know when... maybe saturday morning? cym 10/12/07 16:39 check what? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:39 nice that you do everything live, Judy boris 10/12/07 16:40 Judy: ok. i would like to fool around with beethoven's "ghost trio" later tonite - i'll post the resusts tommorow morning - i dont care if we don't use it paljudy 10/12/07 16:40 I is fun and I have done a lot of Vox over ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:40 check if it works in the screening place aether9 10/12/07 16:40 cym, the room appears to be used from 19:15 on saturday, not earlier. boris 10/12/07 16:40 faint voice... grrr fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:40 judy do you have stuff to mix for preshow and post show? paljudy 10/12/07 16:40 Great....I wanted to dub it and play with it...... cym 10/12/07 16:41 so i will check the setup before 19:00 paljudy 10/12/07 16:41 I adore Becket and gre up with the 'vox' he refers to ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:41 yes, let's do it at 7pm 10/12/07 16:41 rehearsal 5 pm. boris 10/12/07 16:42 so far we have the following frames: > yorba linda > brussels > geneva we still need 3 frames fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:42 6 non txt visual? boris 10/12/07 16:43 we need 1 more visual: paula? paljudy 10/12/07 16:43 what is going on with the dust frames.....the greys....what is in those frames exactly? boris 10/12/07 16:43 1 of these frames will be users feedback fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:43 so just 4 visual total? boris 10/12/07 16:43 2 grays will be there laure.dit 10/12/07 16:43 no boris we must have 4 active frames and thats what we have, two other are text, and the three of below are shades of grey boris 10/12/07 16:43 4 visual total + 2 text laure.dit 10/12/07 16:43 and dust boris 10/12/07 16:43 so where's the audience feedback box? paljudy 10/12/07 16:44 can the greys be vid so there is subtle movement? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:44 we can put it in the greys 10/12/07 16:44 there will be judy fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:44 the txt shoutbox is a test in its own webpage still 10/12/07 16:44 http://1904.cc/aether/shoutbox/index.php aether9 10/12/07 16:44 one person could be in charge of doing "very nice" greys... 10/12/07 16:45 dusty floors etc laure.dit 10/12/07 16:45 can we accredit fr2, 4, , 5, 6 ? 10/12/07 16:46 please fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:46 i'll take whatever frame you want me to be aether9 10/12/07 16:46 i'd do the window, for instance (fr 2) paljudy 10/12/07 16:46 I want to be clear....I am not currently set up to be seen only heard. OK? boris 10/12/07 16:47 yes! 10/12/07 16:47 something was unclear - but you'll be heard only. paljudy 10/12/07 16:47 OK boris 10/12/07 16:48 i'll gladly do frame 4 (the pallet) or 5 (the sitting dude) fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:48 well maybe I should get the easiest active frame just incase i have technical issues laure.dit 10/12/07 16:49 well chris then maybe take the window aether9 10/12/07 16:49 either the window, or some artistic grey shapes.. ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:50 we need 4 performers manuel. laure.dit 10/12/07 16:50 are we sure paulas participating ? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:50 you should do the door boris 10/12/07 16:50 she said she wishes too. ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:50 with the corridor stuff that is a little bit more complicated aether9 10/12/07 16:50 paula wrote me she wants to participate. boris 10/12/07 16:50 so we must assume paula participates. aether9 10/12/07 16:51 maybe she could also provide the boy ? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:51 and does the door. pk 10/12/07 16:51 ok paljudy 10/12/07 16:51 Chris and I found the time lag to be 6 sec. on sound last night. I have sung live through a n old space station before so I don't expect a problem once we have the flow of the action ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:51 of course, if she does the door she provides the boy fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:51 paula will be here later. i'm sure. laure.dit 10/12/07 16:51 if its too complicate to get the boy or the shot of a corridor, in order to be effective, theses images could be pre-recorded boris 10/12/07 16:52 she akways has kids in her frames running behind klike on tarkovsky's space ship 10/12/07 16:52 always ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:52 yes,b ut still... 10/12/07 16:52 ok: fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:52 is it ok if i get horses to run behind me? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:53 paula: frame 6 10/12/07 16:53 boris frame 5 10/12/07 16:53 chris frame 2 boris 10/12/07 16:53 camels please ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:53 me frame 1 and 3 10/12/07 16:53 laure frame 4? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:53 perfect ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:53 manuel ok: frame 4 laure.dit 10/12/07 16:53 i thought i was filming boris ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:54 Laure, you do the frame 5 with boris laure.dit 10/12/07 16:54 ?! ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:54 rright boris 10/12/07 16:54 laure and me: frame 5. laure.dit 10/12/07 16:55 do u people agree with the black hood, in order to make clearer the hide of the face ? aether9 10/12/07 16:55 ok so... should i do frame 4? could also do frame 5 if boris wants the pallett.. 10/12/07 16:56 black hood: that's exactly what i was thinking fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:56 as opposed to a vail or hankerchief? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:56 boris ? do you want to change ? ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:56 chloe: frame 1 & 3 chris: frame 2 Manuel: frame 4 Boris: frame 5 Paula (+ kid) : frame6 frame 7 - 8 : gray (who's taking care opf this?) frame 9: spectator reaction laure.dit 10/12/07 16:56 good lisa aether9 10/12/07 16:57 any more ideas regarding the "look" of the caracter , clothing... 10/12/07 16:57 ? fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:57 we could just prerecord some greys right, and let them run autopilot? boris 10/12/07 16:57 well i have a pallet at home, so why not, sure! laure.dit 10/12/07 16:57 yes chris ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:57 the character is weraing a long black coat laure.dit 10/12/07 16:57 boris youre in FRAME 5 fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:58 should windowboy2 wear anything in particular? laure.dit 10/12/07 16:58 window boy is F, and wears a black hood ana-lisa 10/12/07 16:58 the same laure.dit 10/12/07 16:58 F is one person, demultplicated in 4 spaces 10/12/07 16:59 of one same room aether9 10/12/07 16:59 yes, obviously the caracter should look as similar as possible fe2cruz 10/12/07 16:59 black hood, lets all have as many coats during the rehersal available to try to match. aether9 10/12/07 17:00 while reading the text, i had an image in mind of a photo of Georges Demen?, assistant to Marey (inventor of "chronophotography") laure.dit 10/12/07 17:00 yeah... but lets concentrate on the hood aether9 10/12/07 17:00 where he's wearing an all black costume to record movements 10/12/07 17:00 there is a very bad version of that picture here: laure.dit 10/12/07 17:01 interesting aether9 10/12/07 17:01 http://amif.club.fr/francais/mag/marey/Image10.jpg laure.dit 10/12/07 17:01 nice, very nice aether9 10/12/07 17:01 will try to find the original photo and send it to you fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:02 like a beekeeper in a catsuit boris 10/12/07 17:03 so all black with black hood? fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:03 oh yeah besides the clothes what mandetory props are needed? laure.dit 10/12/07 17:03 yes 10/12/07 17:03 mandetory props, whats that ? aether9 10/12/07 17:04 for your frame, chris: none laure.dit 10/12/07 17:04 mandetory props, whats that ? boris 10/12/07 17:04 props = accessoires paljudy 10/12/07 17:04 Costume wet windows wet..spray with water.....act 3 need a spay bottle fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:04 cassette, stool 10/12/07 17:04 mirror 10/12/07 17:05 just anything else we should bring to the rehesal to be prepared paljudy 10/12/07 17:05 thing to controal the light so it has no origin 10/12/07 17:06 deflectors boris 10/12/07 17:06 diffuse light, ok. laure.dit 10/12/07 17:06 these are more or less details that we will have to adjust on wednesday boris 10/12/07 17:06 no shadows? fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:06 but bright even light all over so its easy right? laure.dit 10/12/07 17:07 if possible no aether9 10/12/07 17:07 bright light, but you need to soften it so there are no sharp shadows.. fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:08 we can adjust the contrast levels if we have issue though right? aether9 10/12/07 17:08 actually it's great if chris makes the window part, since he will have an early california afternoon, while novi sad is in deep night and fog.. fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:08 might be cloudy or rainy dark afternoon here though boris 10/12/07 17:09 question: a "hood" - it covers the face (leaving holes for eyes and mouth) or not? fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:09 yeah are we talkin hoodie or mask? paljudy 10/12/07 17:09 at one last moment the face is seen in act 3 no......so it should be a domino style hood laure.dit 10/12/07 17:10 judy im not so sure about "ghost given" for the title? should we keep ghost trio in regard to the music, or ghost quattro for the 4 acting frames, or ghost nano, for all the frames ? what do you all think ? paljudy 10/12/07 17:10 fine....just fooling around 10/12/07 17:10 I don't love nanao boris 10/12/07 17:10 domino style - waza? 10/12/07 17:11 ghost unforgiven paljudy 10/12/07 17:11 venice....carnival stylee boris 10/12/07 17:11 aha. 10/12/07 17:11 ok fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:11 ghost in dutch is spook! paljudy 10/12/07 17:11 wow...good laure.dit 10/12/07 17:12 the face should not be completely hidden, it should stay in the shadow of the hood 10/12/07 17:12 whats ghost in serbian ? boris 10/12/07 17:13 Judy - what style do you mean? --> http://images.google.be/images? q=mask%20venice&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en- US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:13 I suggest a hat that is making a shadow on the face fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:13 duh, du?a, prikaza 10/12/07 17:13 http://www.stars21.com/translator/english_to_serbian.html ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:13 no mask. it is beckett, minimalist. cym 10/12/07 17:14 duh is good, it fits in three frames ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:14 duh trio 10/12/07 17:14 ? boris 10/12/07 17:14 naaa sounds bad in latin fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:15 duy rio yo aether9 10/12/07 17:15 i suggest a basic streetware hood, as we will never manage to have a similar hat... fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:15 duh trio yo 10/12/07 17:15 ghost trio is fine with me laure.dit 10/12/07 17:15 yes i agree with aether cym 10/12/07 17:15 ghost trio is better fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:15 wutang hoodie it is! ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:15 a agree with aether and chris fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:17 http://www.netweed.com/prohiphop/graf/wutanglogo2.jpg aether9 10/12/07 17:17 beyond the hood, we could try to stick to thight black clothing fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:18 i think i can manage all black pants and shirt that fit fairly tight but nothing skin tight boris 10/12/07 17:19 fantomas ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:19 I like the wu tang style paljudy 10/12/07 17:19 nothing like ballet....... ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:19 sweater with hood 10/12/07 17:19 black pant 10/12/07 17:19 easy to find laure.dit 10/12/07 17:20 doesent matter if its not too tight, i mean its symbolic, everybody dressed in black with a hood, everybody the same ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:20 hides the difference of body between different performers fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:20 but you guys still want color in each active frame or can we go greyscale? ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:20 we will try on wednesday fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:21 b/w would make it easier to match laure.dit 10/12/07 17:21 yeah, do we need to fix anything more until then ? ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:21 how it looks like all grey and how it is with one blue-red-green frame (frames 2-4-6) fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:21 i think we got it all, better let it go before we start debating on what shoes to wear paljudy 10/12/07 17:21 another issue is letting people know we are doing this.....I will post Node1 (UK) and Myspace for reposts and use a friends emailing list.......what else Mailing list & inclusionary invitation (I will write one in English to my mailing list of people unfamiliar with viewing events on line) to expand the on-line audience. Could we use VOIP numbers or IM to walk potential audience members through getting their computers configured .help being available up to one hour before broadcast? If not this time maybe next time or provided by the gallery ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:21 lets see each other on wedneday- 10/12/07 17:22 dressed with approp?riate clothes, maybe several choices 10/12/07 17:22 framing appropriate space fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:23 cool yeah judy could youforward that nice invitation earlier to manuel to give to the big mailing list? paljudy 10/12/07 17:23 yes fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:23 like a nice warm letter rather than an annoying annoucement boris 10/12/07 17:23 fantomas: 10/12/07 17:23 http://www.septimovicio.com/datos/sjff_01_img0516.jpg http://www.oeil-ecran.com/images/vampires.jpg paljudy 10/12/07 17:23 with charm aether9 10/12/07 17:24 boris: that's irma vep boris 10/12/07 17:24 yes a really sweet announcment? 10/12/07 17:24 irma vep - vampire - related to fantomas somewhat fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:24 should we scratch in fin like in assayas irma vep aether9 10/12/07 17:25 yeah. .definitively material for a future aether show... ana-lisa 10/12/07 17:25 see you on wednesday guys fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:25 ok thanks everyone see you wed paljudy 10/12/07 17:25 final///details or wed? 10/12/07 17:25 time boris 10/12/07 17:25 for the announcment: let's not do it at the last moment! paljudy 10/12/07 17:26 right away champ fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:26 wed midnight bxl cym 10/12/07 17:26 ok see you wednesday 10/12/07 17:26 midnight? okay paljudy 10/12/07 17:26 OK aether9 10/12/07 17:26 ok boris 10/12/07 17:26 everybody collects his emails and we make a big powerfull adressboog database and send it 10/12/07 17:26 on wednesday nite! 10/12/07 17:27 see you then. fe2cruz 10/12/07 17:27 ok cu cym 10/12/07 17:27 ok boris 10/12/07 17:27 bye all! paljudy 10/12/07 17:27 OK.....bye....will check for Boris's dub when I get up laure.dit 10/12/07 17:27 bye boris 10/12/07 17:28 ok _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071212/1c7ed800/attachment.html From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Wed Dec 12 02:51:37 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:51:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] audience interface Message-ID: <697414.74794.qm {a+} web26115.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> i wanted to show you a link about an audience interface too here: http://upstage.org.nz/blog/?page_id=2 see you tomorrow N. --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071212/dcc85847/attachment.html From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Wed Dec 12 07:05:40 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:05:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] PR of events In-Reply-To: <475ECBD2.9070708 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <56927.48433.qm {a+} web62315.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I am attaching what I wrote to send out to friends before i send it. At issue is that huge mailing lists haven't worked here for quite a while (in the US or UK). Most of the people I am in touch with have made me go through the process of clearing their 'spam filters" and it is worthless for me to pass these addresses along to a group data base. Several Art/tech lists that I can post to are limited to members as are the pro PR people that will accept from me.... to be forwarded/re-posted. So....this... if it is OK it might be better laid out graphically...and I am open to suggestion....and another more technologically sophisticated announcement might be written to be used for professional consumption... if someone else writes it....but the most important thing is that the links on our homepage are actually as clear as I have suggested! My agenda is to increase the number of people who could be bothered to try and watch what we do by making it as easy as possible. Viz the sound for tomorrow. Our co-pilot, Jonathan, here in NYC, is a bit ill but assures me he can do it. We have both come out of working clubs/studios so the mix of the piano MP3 and the rain MP3 is not difficult with DJ software and the run through with the (v) character is more or less OK with me since I am OK with 'fluidity" and sonic delay. If there are new suggestions we have 2 days to make changes before the crunch. After this I will try to collect a number of email addresses that are not quite so personal that I can add to a data base......but I suggest that Aether9 set up a Myspace page (as I have and N3krosoft has) just because it is free and links in a very large world of people who spend a good deal of time on-line. Facebook is a BoBo thing with people who keep up their CV updated and on-line. My friends in the Master Musicians of Jajouka worked to pick up 'numbers' in the friends lists....and collected a mailing list of thousands in a week. I have never done this....but that is the game if we care to join it. All regards....... Judy bk wrote: hi all, > on the script it is writen, next to act 1 /scene 1-3 : "7 frames with text to upload in 3 minutes" what does this mean? > Paula: if she does frame n. 6 as agreed on the skype (in her absence...), then she needs: 1 assisant or 1 actor (woman or man?) + 1 boy > the wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Trio_%28play%29) is very interesting. we learn there that Beckett added things in some of his tv shows that aren't written, for example the "final smile" of F. -- > music: - i didn't produced anything, contradictory to what i announced yesterday on skype. questions: - do we want to use Beethoven?s Piano Trio? If yes, do we want to respect more or less the indications from Beckett OR do we want to freely play with this trio, with mixed loops or samples for example? (i understand that the uploaded music is only a fraction of the second movement of the trio. all the music indicated by Beckett commes from this second movement. i do not have the full piece - i uploaded, for the sake of the example, the part that goes with "Act1, l.31" - i also uploaded a couple nice loops). - There's very little (faint) music in the original indications (repertoried in the wikipedia page). - If we decide to use musical elements, is there sound appart from this music, for example do we want to stream some sounds of aint winds? Or "pastel noise"? - Judy, how do you generally feel this music part? What are your ideas? > announcment - we should prepare more carefully our announcments that what we have done so far. for this performance, i suggest we prepare a nice announcment that we send to friends and people who might be interested from our adress books, but that we do not send it yet to zillions of adresses (from institution-digital-net-theatre-plastic-art-etc- world) as i guess we will do this performance again. i think we should do this kind of big marketink operation for the next time, once we are more ready and experienced with this Beckett adaptation. but If you think we should do it now anyways, ok then. - so please everybody centralise your adresses in 1 document and send it to manuel who will make 1 big mailing list so that 1 general announcment from an aether9 adresse. - all suggestions for text and mail-design welcome. - should we care of rights? music and beckett? what's our approach here? _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071211/e200993d/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Beckett Invite.doc Type: application/msword Size: 36864 bytes Desc: 802056529-Beckett Invite.doc Url : http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071211/e200993d/attachment.doc From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Wed Dec 12 16:06:32 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:06:32 +0100 Subject: [aether] meeting & information Message-ID: <95c795f70712120706q4795787dr6da856122b830f66 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Hello Aethernauts I am not sure if i will be at the meeting tonight. But I looked through the script and the links you sent. Can you send me an overview who is performing in which frame and also some background information to each person/frame? (name and from where you are performing). Also for the sound-frame. If you want you can all individually send me some information and I put it together. At the moment it is still very abstract for me who are all the people with whom I am working together... Sometimes this is nice, but I feel a bit stupid that I will not be able to tell the people in Novi Sad who you are... And can someone send me a few lines about the piece, very short, and, more important, why did you choose this piece for the performance? Is there something special, interesting about it, that makes it interesting to play it online via remote connections? Are you playing a free interpretation of the script, or are you trying to keep as close as possible to the original, but adapt it for an online performance? These are just some questions that come to my mind, now that I start to think how to introduce the piece to an audience. I don't know what the situation in Novi Sad will be like. Also I don't know if i will make any introduction at all, or just switch on the projection and not say anything. But I would like to be prepared to answer people when they have questions afterwards. Can you send me any information, that you think might be handy for me, by tomorrow morning? I am leaving to Novi Sad on Friday morning. It is about 6 hours drive (it is not so close as I thought). So I want to prepare everything tomorrow afternoon. I don't know if I will be online Friday-evening or Saturday, but i will try to at least check the connections at the location and check the mails from you. Is anyone going to record the performance? If I use my laptop for the presentation I won't be able to record at the same time. (Besides that I don't have the software to record.) I would like to record live at the location, but i don't have a video-camera. So I will take photos and write a story. Which browser would be the best to use? It would be good to show the performance in full-screen mode. I will spend some time tomorrow afternoon to find the best solution. Any suggestions? I'll try to come by the meeting tonight. If not, I will read the chatlog tomorrow-morning. Greetings, cym From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Wed Dec 12 16:20:55 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:20:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] Boris's thoughts on the music followed by Judy's In-Reply-To: <56927.48433.qm {a+} web62315.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <721049.81270.qm {a+} web62304.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > music: - i didn't produced anything, contradictory to what i announced yesterday on skype. questions: - do we want to use Beethoven?s Piano Trio? If yes, do we want to respect more or less the indications from Beckett OR do we want to freely play with this trio, with mixed loops or samples for example? (i understand that the uploaded music is only a fraction of the second movement of the trio. all the music indicated by Beckett commes from this second movement. i do not have the full piece - i uploaded, for the sake of the example, the part that goes with "Act1, l.31" - i also uploaded a couple nice loops). - There's very little (faint) music in the original indications (repertoried in the wikipedia page). - If we decide to use musical elements, is there sound appart from this music, for example do we want to stream some sounds of aint winds? Or "pastel noise"? - Judy, how do you generally feel this music part? What are your ideas? I was thinking that, 'sort of' respecting Beckett's stage direction, there would be no sound but the voice in Act 1 at first.....the piano is heard only once the cassette is SEEN near the end......but it will remain softly in the mix from there (looped MP3) but not played straight, fattened by playing 2 tracks of it at once (one underneath at less volume) and with a bit of reverb....In Act 3 the piano is woven in and out of the rain sound which will make it moodier and suggestive of memory setting up the entrance of the boy. I will go grab a sample of a creaking door as mentioned by Beckett (in case we really need it) but I think the idea of having a"footstep sample" is corny.....nobody makes noise with their shoes these days when they walk unless they are in a detective movie. Mostly the music is a soft cushion of sound that gives the space volume throughout from the end of the first act on. What I have never tried here is using the sound window open and having the viewing window open at the same time to match the action with the live voice. And of course having two people using the same computer at once is another kind of duet. I am in all day here if anyone wants to add their thoughts on this.------Judy --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071212/3bf242e3/attachment.html From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Wed Dec 12 16:39:21 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:39:21 +0100 Subject: [aether] meeting & information & music In-Reply-To: <95c795f70712120706q4795787dr6da856122b830f66 {a+} mail.gmail.com> References: <95c795f70712120706q4795787dr6da856122b830f66 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <476000A9.7030105 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Dears, to answer some of Cym's important questions: > Laure and Chlo? wrote about the "why" of adapting this piece. it is in french for the moment, it will be translated for you (and everybody), i am not sure if it will be done by tommorow morning though - a rough translation will be sent to you anywas by tommoroy morning. > setup: frame 1 and 3 (text only frames): Chlo? in brussels frame 2: Chris in Yorba Linda frame 4: Manuel in geneva frame 5: Boris in brussels frame 6: Paula in Bogota frame 7, 8 and 9 (variations of grey): no defined for the moment -- > Judy, what you write about music sounds great to me. you say that there's no sound in Act 1 except at the end once the cassette has been seen (32). but on (11) there's also some faint music. again, the wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Trio_%28play%29 his helpfull for this. anyway i agree that we shouldn't focus on respecting ? la lettre those indications. (i uploaded 8 samples from beethoven's piece and a free thoughtless impro with them here: http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ghost-sound%20files/) that's all for now, see you tonite online, Boris cym net wrote: > Hello Aethernauts > > I am not sure if i will be at the meeting tonight. But I looked > through the script and the links you sent. > > Can you send me an overview who is performing in which frame and also > some background information to each person/frame? (name and from where > you are performing). Also for the sound-frame. > > If you want you can all individually send me some information and I > put it together. At the moment it is still very abstract for me who > are all the people with whom I am working together... Sometimes this > is nice, but I feel a bit stupid that I will not be able to tell the > people in Novi Sad who you are... > > And can someone send me a few lines about the piece, very short, and, > more important, why did you choose this piece for the performance? Is > there something special, interesting about it, that makes it > interesting to play it online via remote connections? Are you playing > a free interpretation of the script, or are you trying to keep as > close as possible to the original, but adapt it for an online > performance? These are just some questions that come to my mind, now > that I start to think how to introduce the piece to an audience. > > I don't know what the situation in Novi Sad will be like. Also I don't > know if i will make any introduction at all, or just switch on the > projection and not say anything. But I would like to be prepared to > answer people when they have questions afterwards. > > Can you send me any information, that you think might be handy for me, > by tomorrow morning? I am leaving to Novi Sad on Friday morning. It is > about 6 hours drive (it is not so close as I thought). So I want to > prepare everything tomorrow afternoon. I don't know if I will be > online Friday-evening or Saturday, but i will try to at least check > the connections at the location and check the mails from you. > > Is anyone going to record the performance? If I use my laptop for the > presentation I won't be able to record at the same time. (Besides that > I don't have the software to record.) I would like to record live at > the location, but i don't have a video-camera. So I will take photos > and write a story. > > Which browser would be the best to use? It would be good to show the > performance in full-screen mode. I will spend some time tomorrow > afternoon to find the best solution. Any suggestions? > > I'll try to come by the meeting tonight. If not, I will read the > chatlog tomorrow-morning. > > Greetings, cym > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Wed Dec 12 17:07:17 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:07:17 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] RE : Re: meeting & information & music In-Reply-To: <476000A9.7030105 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <459342.54021.qm {a+} web26109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> i just call Laure and i'm ok to work on the variations of grey (frames 7,8,9) see you this evening cheers Nathalie bk a ?crit : Dears, to answer some of Cym's important questions: > Laure and Chlo? wrote about the "why" of adapting this piece. it is in french for the moment, it will be translated for you (and everybody), i am not sure if it will be done by tommorow morning though - a rough translation will be sent to you anywas by tommoroy morning. > setup: frame 1 and 3 (text only frames): Chlo? in brussels frame 2: Chris in Yorba Linda frame 4: Manuel in geneva frame 5: Boris in brussels frame 6: Paula in Bogota frame 7, 8 and 9 (variations of grey): no defined for the moment -- > Judy, what you write about music sounds great to me. you say that there's no sound in Act 1 except at the end once the cassette has been seen (32). but on (11) there's also some faint music. again, the wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Trio_%28play%29 his helpfull for this. anyway i agree that we shouldn't focus on respecting ? la lettre those indications. (i uploaded 8 samples from beethoven's piece and a free thoughtless impro with them here: http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ghost-sound%20files/) that's all for now, see you tonite online, Boris cym net wrote: > Hello Aethernauts > > I am not sure if i will be at the meeting tonight. But I looked > through the script and the links you sent. > > Can you send me an overview who is performing in which frame and also > some background information to each person/frame? (name and from where > you are performing). Also for the sound-frame. > > If you want you can all individually send me some information and I > put it together. At the moment it is still very abstract for me who > are all the people with whom I am working together... Sometimes this > is nice, but I feel a bit stupid that I will not be able to tell the > people in Novi Sad who you are... > > And can someone send me a few lines about the piece, very short, and, > more important, why did you choose this piece for the performance? Is > there something special, interesting about it, that makes it > interesting to play it online via remote connections? Are you playing > a free interpretation of the script, or are you trying to keep as > close as possible to the original, but adapt it for an online > performance? These are just some questions that come to my mind, now > that I start to think how to introduce the piece to an audience. > > I don't know what the situation in Novi Sad will be like. Also I don't > know if i will make any introduction at all, or just switch on the > projection and not say anything. But I would like to be prepared to > answer people when they have questions afterwards. > > Can you send me any information, that you think might be handy for me, > by tomorrow morning? I am leaving to Novi Sad on Friday morning. It is > about 6 hours drive (it is not so close as I thought). So I want to > prepare everything tomorrow afternoon. I don't know if I will be > online Friday-evening or Saturday, but i will try to at least check > the connections at the location and check the mails from you. > > Is anyone going to record the performance? If I use my laptop for the > presentation I won't be able to record at the same time. (Besides that > I don't have the software to record.) I would like to record live at > the location, but i don't have a video-camera. So I will take photos > and write a story. > > Which browser would be the best to use? It would be good to show the > performance in full-screen mode. I will spend some time tomorrow > afternoon to find the best solution. Any suggestions? > > I'll try to come by the meeting tonight. If not, I will read the > chatlog tomorrow-morning. > > Greetings, cym > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071212/8b6ee941/attachment.html From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Wed Dec 12 17:43:09 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:43:09 -0500 Subject: [aether] PR of events ATTENTION In-Reply-To: <56927.48433.qm {a+} web62315.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <56927.48433.qm {a+} web62315.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Judy: hello! In your attachement there is an information error. I'm Paula V?lez performing from MEDELLIN (COLOMBIA). Not from Bogot? the capital. I did last TREMOR performance from Bogot?, but I will perform this time from Medellin, the city I'm living now. Paula El 12/12/2007, a las 1:05, Judy Nylon escribi?: > I am attaching what I wrote to send out to friends before i send > it. At issue is that huge mailing lists haven't worked here for > quite a while (in the US or UK). Most of the people I am in touch > with have made me go through the process of clearing their 'spam > filters" and it is worthless for me to pass these addresses along > to a group data base. Several Art/tech lists that I can post to are > limited to members as are the pro PR people that will accept from > me.... to be forwarded/re-posted. So....this... if it is OK it > might be better laid out graphically...and I am open to > suggestion....and another more technologically sophisticated > announcement might be written to be used for professional > consumption... if someone else writes it....but the most important > thing is that the links on our homepage are actually as clear as I > have suggested! My agenda is to increase the number of people who > could be bothered to try and watch what we do by making it as easy > as possible. > > Viz the sound for tomorrow. Our co-pilot, Jonathan, here in NYC, is > a bit ill but assures me he can do it. We have both come out of > working clubs/studios so the mix of the piano MP3 and the rain MP3 > is not difficult with DJ software and the run through with the (v) > character is more or less OK with me since I am OK with 'fluidity" > and sonic delay. If there are new suggestions we have 2 days to > make changes before the crunch. > > After this I will try to collect a number of email addresses that > are not quite so personal that I can add to a data base......but I > suggest that Aether9 set up a Myspace page (as I have and > N3krosoft has) just because it is free and links in a very large > world of people who spend a good deal of time on-line. Facebook is > a BoBo thing with people who keep up their CV updated and on-line. > My friends in the Master Musicians of Jajouka worked to pick up > 'numbers' in the friends lists....and collected a mailing list of > thousands in a week. I have never done this....but that is the game > if we care to join it. > > All regards....... Judy > > > > > > > > > > > bk wrote: > hi all, > > > on the script it is writen, next to act 1 /scene 1-3 : "7 frames > with > text to upload in 3 minutes" > what does this mean? > > > Paula: if she does frame n. 6 as agreed on the skype (in her > absence...), then she needs: 1 assisant or 1 actor (woman or man?) > + 1 boy > > > the wikipedia article > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Trio_%28play%29) is very > interesting. we learn there that Beckett added things in some of > his tv > shows that aren't written, for example the "final smile" of F. > -- > > > > music: > - i didn't produced anything, contradictory to what i announced > yesterday on skype. questions: > - do we want to use Beethoven?s Piano Trio? > If yes, do we want to respect more or less the indications from > Beckett > OR do we want to freely play with this trio, with mixed loops or > samples > for example? (i understand that the uploaded music is only a > fraction of > the second movement of the trio. all the music indicated by Beckett > commes from this second movement. i do not have the full piece - i > uploaded, for the sake of the example, the part that goes with "Act1, > l.31" - i also uploaded a couple nice loops). > - There's very little (faint) music in the original indications > (repertoried in the wikipedia page). > - If we decide to use musical elements, is there sound appart from > this > music, for example do we want to stream some sounds of aint winds? Or > "pastel noise"? > - Judy, how do you generally feel this music part? What are your > ideas? > > > > > > announcment > - we should prepare more carefully our announcments that what we have > done so far. for this performance, i suggest we prepare a nice > announcment that we send to friends and people who might be interested > from our adress books, but that we do not send it yet to zillions of > adresses (from institution-digital-net-theatre-plastic-art-etc- world) > as i guess we will do this performance again. i think we should do > this > kind of big marketink operation for the next time, once we are more > ready and experienced with this Beckett adaptation. > but If you think we should do it now anyways, ok then. > - so please everybody centralise your adresses in 1 document and > send it > to manuel who will make 1 big mailing list so that 1 general > announcment > from an aether9 adresse. > > - all suggestions for text and mail-design welcome. > - should we care of rights? music and beckett? what's our approach > here? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071212/f25e4f9d/attachment.html From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Wed Dec 12 17:47:48 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:47:48 -0500 Subject: [aether] Boris's thoughts on the music followed by Judy's In-Reply-To: <721049.81270.qm {a+} web62304.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <721049.81270.qm {a+} web62304.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: there is a sound that sometimes we produce walking. our gum basquets could make a funny noise when we walk in some surface... couick couick couick caouchouick. ?why not? El 12/12/2007, a las 10:20, Judy Nylon escribi?: > > music: > - i didn't produced anything, contradictory to what i announced > yesterday on skype. questions: > - do we want to use Beethoven?s Piano Trio? > If yes, do we want to respect more or less the indications from > Beckett > OR do we want to freely play with this trio, with mixed loops or > samples > for example? (i understand that the uploaded music is only a > fraction of > the second movement of the trio. all the music indicated by Beckett > commes from this second movement. i do not have the full piece - i > uploaded, for the sake of the example, the part that goes with "Act1, > l.31" - i also uploaded a couple nice loops). > - There's very little (faint) music in the original indications > (repertoried in the wikipedia page). > - If we decide to use musical elements, is there sound appart from > this > music, for example do we want to stream some sounds of aint winds? Or > "pastel noise"? > - Judy, how do you generally feel this music part? What are your > ideas? > > I was thinking that, 'sort of' respecting Beckett's stage > direction, there would be no sound but the voice in Act 1 at > first.....the piano is heard only once the cassette is SEEN near > the end......but it will remain softly in the mix from there > (looped MP3) but not played straight, fattened by playing 2 tracks > of it at once (one underneath at less volume) and with a bit of > reverb....In Act 3 the piano is woven in and out of the rain sound > which will make it moodier and suggestive of memory setting up the > entrance of the boy. I will go grab a sample of a creaking door as > mentioned by Beckett (in case we really need it) but I think the > idea of having a"footstep sample" is corny.....nobody makes noise > with their shoes these days when they walk unless they are in a > detective movie. Mostly the music is a soft cushion of sound that > gives the space volume throughout from the end of the first act on. > > What I have never tried here is using the sound window open and > having the viewing window open at the same time to match the action > with the live voice. And of course having two people using the same > computer at once is another kind of duet. I am in all day here if > anyone wants to add their thoughts on this.------Judy > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071212/e1843f07/attachment.html From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Wed Dec 12 19:10:42 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:10:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] THANKS Paula::Revised. Please feel free to adapt and use as you need In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <714088.22548.qm {a+} web62313.mail.re1.yahoo.com> We?re revealing our adaptation of ?Ghost Trio,? by Beckett on Saturday December 15th. Written in 1975, taped in ?76 and televised on BBC2 in 1977. It is a parallel universe played out in the same slice of time as the first wave of British punk. Beckett, I wish we?d met. My fellow aethernauts and I would be delighted if you would join us live on-line at our first chance to bring this play from TV to a wider audience. It doesn?t matter what you?re wearing and you won?t have to worry about how you?re getting home. Members of Aether9 will be performing from Medellin, Yorba Linda, NYC , Brussels, Geneva, and Paris. The audience, those in the same room, will be joined at ?Videomedja 2007? at the Museum of Vojvodina, Novi Sad, Serbia, by two Aether9 artists from Austria and Slovinia who will host the Q & A which follows the performance. There are no complicated programs or hardware involved. It is easier than getting out of the house. I hope you will look through our site at www.1904.cc where the collaborative process involved is quite transparent, our project laid out, and participants credited. Here we will make the links ?to set up your computer? so easy that you will practically fall through them. You will need to go through one link to find out what the time will be where you are, when it is Saturday at 11:15 PM in Serbia. The second link opens the audience viewing window and a third link leads to instructions to stream sound. We all wait inside our distractions to see what is outside time, beyond words, without location, and never in complete control ..... Judy Nylon Paula V?lez Bravo wrote: Judy: hello! In your attachement there is an information error. I'm Paula V?lez performing from MEDELLIN (COLOMBIA). Not from Bogot? the capital. I did last TREMOR performance from Bogot?, but I will perform this time from Medellin, the city I'm living now. Paula El 12/12/2007, a las 1:05, Judy Nylon escribi?: I am attaching what I wrote to send out to friends before i send it. At issue is that huge mailing lists haven't worked here for quite a while (in the US or UK). Most of the people I am in touch with have made me go through the process of clearing their 'spam filters" and it is worthless for me to pass these addresses along to a group data base. Several Art/tech lists that I can post to are limited to members as are the pro PR people that will accept from me.... to be forwarded/re-posted. So....this... if it is OK it might be better laid out graphically...and I am open to suggestion....and another more technologically sophisticated announcement might be written to be used for professional consumption... if someone else writes it....but the most important thing is that the links on our homepage are actually as clear as I have suggested! My agenda is to increase the number of people who could be bothered to try and watch what we do by making it as easy as possible. Viz the sound for tomorrow. Our co-pilot, Jonathan, here in NYC, is a bit ill but assures me he can do it. We have both come out of working clubs/studios so the mix of the piano MP3 and the rain MP3 is not difficult with DJ software and the run through with the (v) character is more or less OK with me since I am OK with 'fluidity" and sonic delay. If there are new suggestions we have 2 days to make changes before the crunch. After this I will try to collect a number of email addresses that are not quite so personal that I can add to a data base......but I suggest that Aether9 set up a Myspace page (as I have and N3krosoft has) just because it is free and links in a very large world of people who spend a good deal of time on-line. Facebook is a BoBo thing with people who keep up their CV updated and on-line. My friends in the Master Musicians of Jajouka worked to pick up 'numbers' in the friends lists....and collected a mailing list of thousands in a week. I have never done this....but that is the game if we care to join it. All regards....... Judy bk wrote: hi all, > on the script it is writen, next to act 1 /scene 1-3 : "7 frames with text to upload in 3 minutes" what does this mean? > Paula: if she does frame n. 6 as agreed on the skype (in her absence...), then she needs: 1 assisant or 1 actor (woman or man?) + 1 boy > the wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Trio_%28play%29) is very interesting. we learn there that Beckett added things in some of his tv shows that aren't written, for example the "final smile" of F. -- > music: - i didn't produced anything, contradictory to what i announced yesterday on skype. questions: - do we want to use Beethoven?s Piano Trio? If yes, do we want to respect more or less the indications from Beckett OR do we want to freely play with this trio, with mixed loops or samples for example? (i understand that the uploaded music is only a fraction of the second movement of the trio. all the music indicated by Beckett commes from this second movement. i do not have the full piece - i uploaded, for the sake of the example, the part that goes with "Act1, l.31" - i also uploaded a couple nice loops). - There's very little (faint) music in the original indications (repertoried in the wikipedia page). - If we decide to use musical elements, is there sound appart from this music, for example do we want to stream some sounds of aint winds? Or "pastel noise"? - Judy, how do you generally feel this music part? What are your ideas? > announcment - we should prepare more carefully our announcments that what we have done so far. for this performance, i suggest we prepare a nice announcment that we send to friends and people who might be interested from our adress books, but that we do not send it yet to zillions of adresses (from institution-digital-net-theatre-plastic-art-etc- world) as i guess we will do this performance again. i think we should do this kind of big marketink operation for the next time, once we are more ready and experienced with this Beckett adaptation. but If you think we should do it now anyways, ok then. - so please everybody centralise your adresses in 1 document and send it to manuel who will make 1 big mailing list so that 1 general announcment from an aether9 adresse. - all suggestions for text and mail-design welcome. - should we care of rights? music and beckett? what's our approach here? _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now._______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071212/4d2f9c69/attachment.html From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Wed Dec 12 20:51:51 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:51:51 +0100 Subject: [aether] a marvelous fantasio rescripture In-Reply-To: <475ECBD2.9070708 {a+} n3krozoft.com> References: <475ECBD2.9070708 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: hi all, for those participating in the rehearsal tonight, please use the newest version of the video-upload-patch, which you find at http://1904.cc/~aether/kode/max_image_upload/ it's the "upload_119.zip" file. the only change is the servers, we use a slightly different set of servers than last time. also i'm going to redesign the 1904.cc entry page with an easy, direct link to the performance frame.. judy, your invitation text looks fine to me, but maybe we should indicate already in the first phrase that it's an online, multi-location kind of thing.. >- we should prepare more carefully our announcments that what we have >done so far. for this performance, i suggest we prepare a nice >announcment that we send to friends and people who might be interested >from our adress books, but that we do not send it yet to zillions of >adresses (from institution-digital-net-theatre-plastic-art-etc- world) >as i guess we will do this performance again. i think we should do this >kind of big marketink operation for the next time, once we are more >ready and experienced with this Beckett adaptation. i totally agree >but If you think we should do it now anyways, ok then. >- so please everybody centralise your adresses in 1 document and send it >to manuel who will make 1 big mailing list so that 1 general announcment >from an aether9 adresse. > >- all suggestions for text and mail-design welcome. >- should we care of rights? music and beckett? what's our approach here? good question. for beethoven we could try to find a recording of the 20-30s... for the beckett text, the holders of the english-language performance rights are: Georges Borchardt Inc. 136 East 57th Street, New York, NY 10022 Tel No: 212-753-5785 Fax No: 212-838-6518 i wonder how much the rights for a single performance would cost. anybody give them a call ... ? best manu From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Wed Dec 12 20:58:43 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:58:43 +0100 Subject: [aether] Fwd: important data and novi sad guide in brief In-Reply-To: <000801c83cf8$2e139390$1501a8c0 {a+} komp> References: <043201c83732$d3c16ae0$1501a8c0 {a+} komp> <95c795f70712121004g2b53cfe0y65276cbe0b09c112 {a+} mail.gmail.com> <000801c83cf8$2e139390$1501a8c0 {a+} komp> Message-ID: <95c795f70712121158s7324eeeejff51cbcd89d49a74 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Nenad just send me this info: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: office.videomedeja Date: Dec 12, 2007 8:50 PM --- Yes, we can arrange testing for Saturday 5 PM. But also I am getting a bad news regarding broadband on the venue, seems that our provider can't secure more than 1.5 mb/s as they have interferences from telecom antenas which are exactly along the way from provider to museum. Tomorrow I am checking possibilities further and will give my best to find some better solution. Manuel wrote me earlier that something above 3mb/s would be ideal but let me know if anything at least can be done with 1.5 in case we don't find better link? --- What should I answer? Can we do a performance for 1.5mb/s? In general it would be nice to think of a version for slow connections... From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Wed Dec 12 20:58:43 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:58:43 +0100 Subject: [aether] Fwd: important data and novi sad guide in brief In-Reply-To: <000801c83cf8$2e139390$1501a8c0 {a+} komp> References: <043201c83732$d3c16ae0$1501a8c0 {a+} komp> <95c795f70712121004g2b53cfe0y65276cbe0b09c112 {a+} mail.gmail.com> <000801c83cf8$2e139390$1501a8c0 {a+} komp> Message-ID: <95c795f70712121158s7324eeeejff51cbcd89d49a74 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Nenad just send me this info: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: office.videomedeja Date: Dec 12, 2007 8:50 PM --- Yes, we can arrange testing for Saturday 5 PM. But also I am getting a bad news regarding broadband on the venue, seems that our provider can't secure more than 1.5 mb/s as they have interferences from telecom antenas which are exactly along the way from provider to museum. Tomorrow I am checking possibilities further and will give my best to find some better solution. Manuel wrote me earlier that something above 3mb/s would be ideal but let me know if anything at least can be done with 1.5 in case we don't find better link? --- What should I answer? Can we do a performance for 1.5mb/s? In general it would be nice to think of a version for slow connections... From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Wed Dec 12 22:24:45 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:24:45 +0100 Subject: [aether] data rate for aether performance In-Reply-To: <95c795f70712121158s7324eeeejff51cbcd89d49a74 {a+} mail.gmail.com> References: <043201c83732$d3c16ae0$1501a8c0 {a+} komp> <95c795f70712121004g2b53cfe0y65276cbe0b09c112 {a+} mail.gmail.com> <000801c83cf8$2e139390$1501a8c0 {a+} komp> <95c795f70712121158s7324eeeejff51cbcd89d49a74 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: hi nenad, it should work with 1.5 mb/s as well. there will be 3 different html interfaces for different connection speeds (fast, slow, dialup). i made tests using a dial-up connection and adjusted the "dialup" interface so that it works even over a phone line (at 46 kbps! - of course the image refresh rate is then veeeeery slow). with 1.5 mb/s you should be able to use the intermediate speed, or maybe even the fast interface will work. is it possible that you make a test using the network we will have for the performance? just check the following pages. you should see 9 frames with refreshing images / text. if some of them remain constantly black, that means that you should select a slower mode. FAST > http://1904.cc/~aether/html/mainframe.html SLOW > http://1904.cc/~aether/html/mainframe_slow.html DIAL-UP (slowest) > http://1904.cc/~aether/html/mainframe_dialup.html please tell us how this works! mathematically, the global data rate in fast mode should be around 160 kb/s, so actually there should be no difference at all between 3 or 1.5 mb/s... in theory. best, manuel >Nenad just send me this info: > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: office.videomedeja >Date: Dec 12, 2007 8:50 PM > >--- > >Yes, we can arrange testing for Saturday 5 PM. But also I am getting a bad >news regarding broadband on the venue, seems that our provider can't secure >more than 1.5 mb/s as they have interferences from telecom antenas which are >exactly along the way from provider to museum. Tomorrow I am checking >possibilities further and will give my best to find some better solution. >Manuel wrote me earlier that something above 3mb/s would be ideal but let me >know if anything at least can be done with 1.5 in case we don't find better >link? > >--- From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Wed Dec 12 22:25:48 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:25:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] RIGHTS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <193752.61628.qm {a+} web62305.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I called the agency here in NYC about the rights. They have never done anything for live and on-line for anything they represent and have not had any request for this TV play while she has worked there. The agent I spoke with said she would like a write up of what we are doing emailed to her kate {a+} gbagency.com so that she might pass it along to Edward Beckett (owns the estate) who lives in England....to request permission and establish a fee for performance rights. I too suggest we wait. There is not time before Saturday. JUDY 1.1 [*] 1904.cc wrote: hi all, for those participating in the rehearsal tonight, please use the newest version of the video-upload-patch, which you find at http://1904.cc/~aether/kode/max_image_upload/ it's the "upload_119.zip" file. the only change is the servers, we use a slightly different set of servers than last time. also i'm going to redesign the 1904.cc entry page with an easy, direct link to the performance frame.. judy, your invitation text looks fine to me, but maybe we should indicate already in the first phrase that it's an online, multi-location kind of thing.. >- we should prepare more carefully our announcments that what we have >done so far. for this performance, i suggest we prepare a nice >announcment that we send to friends and people who might be interested >from our adress books, but that we do not send it yet to zillions of >adresses (from institution-digital-net-theatre-plastic-art-etc- world) >as i guess we will do this performance again. i think we should do this >kind of big marketink operation for the next time, once we are more >ready and experienced with this Beckett adaptation. i totally agree >but If you think we should do it now anyways, ok then. >- so please everybody centralise your adresses in 1 document and send it >to manuel who will make 1 big mailing list so that 1 general announcment >from an aether9 adresse. > >- all suggestions for text and mail-design welcome. >- should we care of rights? music and beckett? what's our approach here? good question. for beethoven we could try to find a recording of the 20-30s... for the beckett text, the holders of the english-language performance rights are: Georges Borchardt Inc. 136 East 57th Street, New York, NY 10022 Tel No: 212-753-5785 Fax No: 212-838-6518 i wonder how much the rights for a single performance would cost. anybody give them a call ... ? best manu _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071212/3b871dad/attachment.html From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Thu Dec 13 05:32:32 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:32:32 +0100 Subject: [aether] why Ghost Trio? In-Reply-To: <95c795f70712120706q4795787dr6da856122b830f66 {a+} mail.gmail.com> References: <95c795f70712120706q4795787dr6da856122b830f66 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4760B5E0.10207 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Hi all, so the experience of tonite rehearsal was a good start and there's still a huge amount of work to do. > The v (voice) and music part was VERY convincing and great i feel. Judy's voice was karacho! and the music promising. > We (i especially, as i do the frame5) really need to read carefully this script and understand in detail our actions. things may not be clear on the performance script that was sent, please review the script carefully and post questions. > For next rehearsal, let's try to be ready to rehearse at 6 pm (bxl time) - let's tend to resolve the general technical and images problems before. we should start to fine tune the images at 6pm and quickly start rehearsal. > We need to decide what to do with the text feedback box. in frame 9 it is ugly i find. maybe if it was in frame 8 it would be slightly better. coulnd't we ad a long but thin bar under the whole 9frame rectangle? at the same time i like it this box IS one of the 9 frames. i suggest it should be moved to frame 8. > Nathalie, i wished that the greys where more granular, with fewer variations of charachter between them. > Please Chlo? can you explain us what is your idea with the colors? --- > Now Cym, hope those words will help you: > And can someone send me a few lines about the piece, very short, and, > more important, why did you choose this piece for the performance? > There's a lot to say about the reasons for aether9 to adapt "Ghost Trio"... here are some elements: -- Until now, the narrative attempts of ?ther9 were centered on stories and plots created especially for ?ther9 - 9 boxes, the coincidence of 9 different objects (or subjects...) filmed from various ways and the impossibility of perfect synchronisation - all this raises particular space questions. In Beckett's play, there's a very clear distinction between the different areas of one room (chair, pallet, door, window...) - as if these place weren't obviously and naturally related, as if they weren't organically designed to function together, as if the mere presence of 1 chair (or stool), 1 pallet (or basic bed), 1 door and 1 window together in 1 room was questionable, problematic. This rather existential question, the feeling it produces, is very close to what happened in some of aether9's previous experiments where we created 1 space (when we attempted to create zones where physical subjects, metaphorical subjects or human figures existed all trough the 9 frames of aether9) --> this kind of question perfectly suits the aether9 collaboration potential - almost a metaphor for aether9 human structure: we are an art collective (not a room...), so "we are together" naturally, but how do we function together? how do we share the grant for example? how do we coordinate? we always have to question quite hard those issues that aren't so problematic in more classical art collectives. -- Beckett's approaches the potential of each space (the voice, the setting, narration, time, music...) by reducing it to a minimal expression, with few variations. Through a process of repetition practised at various levels in Ghost Trio, the spectator is brought to be interested in these space questions. On the one hand, the voice (V) is devoted to a tautological play by giving us information (kinds of "stage directions" ) that the camera delivers to us too. In addition, we always return to the same objects and the same actions, sometimes repeating entire sequences of action. These processes are very well harmonized with the technical and semiological possibilities of ?ther9. Aether9 (technically and interface-wise) is a very minimalist thing as well. Just like Beckett endeavoured to enumerate, distinguish and to assign forms, colors, sounds and positions in space, ?ther9 plays with the series in the geometrical rectangle formed by the 9 screens. "the history" itself is contained in germ in rare and isolated moments which open on the interior space of S, the principal character. It is the case at the beginning of act II for example. This economy in dramatic means is necessary in a device characterized by a multplicity of point of views. > Is there something special, interesting about it, that makes it > interesting to play it online via remote connections? > humm... it was written in 1975 for the tv. now we don't watch tv that much, do we? kind of dead, the tv. Unlike the questions Ghost Trio brings us trough the media of it's time, tv. Where is the event? what's the event? Let's see if those questions are relevant with what we use today: online networks, hyperspace. What happens to the actor? He's alone but he's a spectator as well (to some point the actor has the possibility to peak on the html interface at all times...) What happens to the spectator? Does the spectator receives a story? For the first time in NoviSad we will implement this feedback shoutbox thing. Only bad news for the hierarchy of mass media (emmiter --> receiver punkt schluss style) The ?ther9 project looks for alternatives of narration after a "century of cinema" (and tv) - the radical democratization in picturing techniques raise the question "how to use with imagination the news possibilities of the representation?" To dislodge a daily tool, to make it speak between fiction and reality, behind and in front of a screen, the perfect interface... > Are you playing a free interpretation of the script, or are you trying to keep as > close as possible to the original, but adapt it for an online > performance? > mmm... i don't know. i guess it's neither a free interpretation nor a strict adaptation, but an unstable adaptation for the moment. -- Good trip Cym, Boris From chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com Thu Dec 13 13:11:07 2007 From: chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?chlo=E9_cramer?=) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:11:07 +0100 Subject: [aether] why Ghost Trio? In-Reply-To: <4760B5E0.10207 {a+} n3krozoft.com> References: <95c795f70712120706q4795787dr6da856122b830f66 {a+} mail.gmail.com> <4760B5E0.10207 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <3d22b5760712130411w46d0ef89v66634d6c3ed2f9b8 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Chloe's answer about the COLOURS: the color concept is very simple. In order to "tune" the space and have an aesthtic choice, we propose to TINT the images of frames 2 (he window), 4 (the Pallet) and 6 (the door) with the 3 colours of an old cathode TV. 2 - red 4 - green 6 - blue there are different ways to do that. Manuel said he's gonna fix the patch, so that there are a couple of "colour correction" tools that allow us this action. So we will most probably choose this option. However, any plastic filter of the appropriate colour could be efficient too. Beckett's TV pieces are always playing with those kind of colour and technical tools, so this choice is quite coherent. It also reacts to V's order "kindly tune accordingly" and the insistant descritpion of the shades of grey and the absence of colour. See you soon C. On 12/13/07, bk wrote: > Hi all, > so the experience of tonite rehearsal was a good start and there's still > a huge amount of work to do. > > The v (voice) and music part was VERY convincing and great i feel. > Judy's voice was karacho! and the music promising. > > We (i especially, as i do the frame5) really need to read carefully > this script and understand in detail our actions. > things may not be clear on the performance script that was sent, please > review the script carefully and post questions. > > For next rehearsal, let's try to be ready to rehearse at 6 pm (bxl > time) - let's tend to resolve the general technical and images problems > before. we should start to fine tune the images at 6pm and quickly start > rehearsal. > > We need to decide what to do with the text feedback box. in frame 9 > it is ugly i find. maybe if it was in frame 8 it would be slightly > better. coulnd't we ad a long but thin bar under the whole 9frame > rectangle? at the same time i like it this box IS one of the 9 frames. i > suggest it should be moved to frame 8. > > Nathalie, i wished that the greys where more granular, with fewer > variations of charachter between them. > > Please Chlo? can you explain us what is your idea with the colors? > --- > > > Now Cym, hope those words will help you: > > And can someone send me a few lines about the piece, very short, and, > > more important, why did you choose this piece for the performance? > > > There's a lot to say about the reasons for aether9 to adapt "Ghost > Trio"... here are some elements: > > -- > Until now, the narrative attempts of ?ther9 were centered on stories and > plots created especially for ?ther9 - 9 boxes, the coincidence of 9 > different objects (or subjects...) filmed from various ways and the > impossibility of perfect synchronisation - all this raises particular > space questions. > > In Beckett's play, there's a very clear distinction between the > different areas of one room (chair, pallet, door, window...) - as if > these place weren't obviously and naturally related, as if they weren't > organically designed to function together, as if the mere presence of 1 > chair (or stool), 1 pallet (or basic bed), 1 door and 1 window together > in 1 room was questionable, problematic. This rather existential > question, the feeling it produces, is very close to what happened in > some of aether9's previous experiments where we created 1 space (when we > attempted to create zones where physical subjects, metaphorical subjects > or human figures existed all trough the 9 frames of aether9) > --> this kind of question perfectly suits the aether9 collaboration > potential - almost a metaphor for aether9 human structure: we are an art > collective (not a room...), so "we are together" naturally, but how do > we function together? how do we share the grant for example? how do we > coordinate? we always have to question quite hard those issues that > aren't so problematic in more classical art collectives. > > -- > Beckett's approaches the potential of each space (the voice, the > setting, narration, time, music...) by reducing it to a minimal > expression, with few variations. Through a process of repetition > practised at various levels in Ghost Trio, the spectator is brought to > be interested in these space questions. On the one hand, the voice (V) > is devoted to a tautological play by giving us information (kinds of > "stage directions" ) that the camera delivers to us too. In addition, we > always return to the same objects and the same actions, sometimes > repeating entire sequences of action. > > These processes are very well harmonized with the technical and > semiological possibilities of ?ther9. Aether9 (technically and > interface-wise) is a very minimalist thing as well. > Just like Beckett endeavoured to enumerate, distinguish and to assign > forms, colors, sounds and positions in space, ?ther9 plays with the > series in the geometrical rectangle formed by the 9 screens. > "the history" itself is contained in germ in rare and isolated moments > which open on the interior space of S, the principal character. It is > the case at the beginning of act II for example. This economy in > dramatic means is necessary in a device characterized by a multplicity > of point of views. > > Is there something special, interesting about it, that makes it > > interesting to play it online via remote connections? > > > humm... it was written in 1975 for the tv. now we don't watch tv that > much, do we? kind of dead, the tv. Unlike the questions Ghost Trio > brings us trough the media of it's time, tv. Where is the event? what's > the event? Let's see if those questions are relevant with what we use > today: online networks, hyperspace. What happens to the actor? He's > alone but he's a spectator as well (to some point the actor has the > possibility to peak on the html interface at all times...) What happens > to the spectator? Does the spectator receives a story? For the first > time in NoviSad we will implement this feedback shoutbox thing. Only bad > news for the hierarchy of mass media (emmiter --> receiver punkt schluss > style) > > The ?ther9 project looks for alternatives of narration after a "century > of cinema" (and tv) - the radical democratization in picturing > techniques raise the question "how to use with imagination the news > possibilities of the representation?" To dislodge a daily tool, to make > it speak between fiction and reality, behind and in front of a screen, > the perfect interface... > > Are you playing a free interpretation of the script, or are you trying to keep as > > close as possible to the original, but adapt it for an online > > performance? > > > mmm... i don't know. i guess it's neither a free interpretation nor a > strict adaptation, but an unstable adaptation for the moment. > > -- > Good trip Cym, > Boris > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > -- Chlo? Cramer 57 av. des Casernes B-1040 Bruxelles Mobile : +32 (0)472 61 62 01 fixe: +32 (0)2 613 79 25 chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com From lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de Thu Dec 13 13:33:12 2007 From: lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de (laure deselys) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:33:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] why Ghost Trio? In-Reply-To: <4760B5E0.10207 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <728883.32359.qm {a+} web26702.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> theres very little chance i can be there at 6pm friday but i will try boris you will may have to do this one alone or with someone else; laure --- bk schrieb: > Hi all, > so the experience of tonite rehearsal was a good > start and there's still > a huge amount of work to do. > > The v (voice) and music part was VERY convincing > and great i feel. > Judy's voice was karacho! and the music promising. > > We (i especially, as i do the frame5) really need > to read carefully > this script and understand in detail our actions. > things may not be clear on the performance script > that was sent, please > review the script carefully and post questions. > > For next rehearsal, let's try to be ready to > rehearse at 6 pm (bxl > time) - let's tend to resolve the general technical > and images problems > before. we should start to fine tune the images at > 6pm and quickly start > rehearsal. > > We need to decide what to do with the text > feedback box. in frame 9 > it is ugly i find. maybe if it was in frame 8 it > would be slightly > better. coulnd't we ad a long but thin bar under the > whole 9frame > rectangle? at the same time i like it this box IS > one of the 9 frames. i > suggest it should be moved to frame 8. > > Nathalie, i wished that the greys where more > granular, with fewer > variations of charachter between them. > > Please Chlo? can you explain us what is your idea > with the colors? > --- > > > Now Cym, hope those words will help you: > > And can someone send me a few lines about the > piece, very short, and, > > more important, why did you choose this piece for > the performance? > > > There's a lot to say about the reasons for aether9 > to adapt "Ghost > Trio"... here are some elements: > > -- > Until now, the narrative attempts of ?ther9 were > centered on stories and > plots created especially for ?ther9 - 9 boxes, the > coincidence of 9 > different objects (or subjects...) filmed from > various ways and the > impossibility of perfect synchronisation - all this > raises particular > space questions. > > In Beckett's play, there's a very clear distinction > between the > different areas of one room (chair, pallet, door, > window...) - as if > these place weren't obviously and naturally related, > as if they weren't > organically designed to function together, as if the > mere presence of 1 > chair (or stool), 1 pallet (or basic bed), 1 door > and 1 window together > in 1 room was questionable, problematic. This rather > existential > question, the feeling it produces, is very close to > what happened in > some of aether9's previous experiments where we > created 1 space (when we > attempted to create zones where physical subjects, > metaphorical subjects > or human figures existed all trough the 9 frames of > aether9) > --> this kind of question perfectly suits the > aether9 collaboration > potential - almost a metaphor for aether9 human > structure: we are an art > collective (not a room...), so "we are together" > naturally, but how do > we function together? how do we share the grant for > example? how do we > coordinate? we always have to question quite hard > those issues that > aren't so problematic in more classical art > collectives. > > -- > Beckett's approaches the potential of each space > (the voice, the > setting, narration, time, music...) by reducing it > to a minimal > expression, with few variations. Through a process > of repetition > practised at various levels in Ghost Trio, the > spectator is brought to > be interested in these space questions. On the one > hand, the voice (V) > is devoted to a tautological play by giving us > information (kinds of > "stage directions" ) that the camera delivers to us > too. In addition, we > always return to the same objects and the same > actions, sometimes > repeating entire sequences of action. > > These processes are very well harmonized with the > technical and > semiological possibilities of ?ther9. Aether9 > (technically and > interface-wise) is a very minimalist thing as well. > Just like Beckett endeavoured to enumerate, > distinguish and to assign > forms, colors, sounds and positions in space, ?ther9 > plays with the > series in the geometrical rectangle formed by the 9 > screens. > "the history" itself is contained in germ in rare > and isolated moments > which open on the interior space of S, the principal > character. It is > the case at the beginning of act II for example. > This economy in > dramatic means is necessary in a device > characterized by a multplicity > of point of views. > > Is there something special, interesting about it, > that makes it > > interesting to play it online via remote > connections? > > > humm... it was written in 1975 for the tv. now we > don't watch tv that > much, do we? kind of dead, the tv. Unlike the > questions Ghost Trio > brings us trough the media of it's time, tv. Where > is the event? what's > the event? Let's see if those questions are relevant > with what we use > today: online networks, hyperspace. What happens to > the actor? He's > alone but he's a spectator as well (to some point > the actor has the > possibility to peak on the html interface at all > times...) What happens > to the spectator? Does the spectator receives a > story? For the first > time in NoviSad we will implement this feedback > shoutbox thing. Only bad > news for the hierarchy of mass media (emmiter --> > receiver punkt schluss > style) > > The ?ther9 project looks for alternatives of > narration after a "century > of cinema" (and tv) - the radical democratization in > picturing > techniques raise the question "how to use with > imagination the news > possibilities of the representation?" To dislodge a > daily tool, to make > it speak between fiction and reality, behind and in > front of a screen, > the perfect interface... > > Are you playing a free interpretation of the > script, or are you trying to keep as > > close as possible to the original, but adapt it > for an online > > performance? > > > mmm... i don't know. i guess it's neither a free > interpretation nor a > strict adaptation, but an unstable adaptation for > the moment. > > -- > Good trip Cym, > Boris > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > __________________________________ Ihr erstes Fernweh? Wo gibt es den sch?nsten Strand? www.yahoo.de/clever From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Thu Dec 13 16:54:00 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:54:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] Beckett estate & performance rights alarm In-Reply-To: <728883.32359.qm {a+} web26702.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <901386.33510.qm {a+} web62306.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I have done further research into the rights issue with regard to touching Beckett's work only to find that the NYC agent is not really in charge and that the nephew, Edward has earned a reputation of being a nightmare. I have attached an (edited) doc of one of the many stories across the web about how he has prevented Beckett's work reaching the public. At some point we must consider the ways around this because we will not receive this man's blessing at any price. However, if everything remains web-based in its production and presentation, he will have nowhere to drop his lawsuits & 'cease and desist' orders. We will have to change the name of the play/never call it an adaptation and perhaps morph it into something else......in my opinion......possibly retaining Beckett himself as the character (f) Judy-- --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071213/647d9f88/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <728883.32359.qm {a+} web26702.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <539633.71285.qm {a+} web26104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hi ah ok now is 6pm in the chat we spoke about 2pm so i have an appointment 7pm so too much short for me ok i had yet record other grey variations but no rain so if someone have that..? thanks good rehearsal tomorrow i'll be able to log saturday 21pm cheers Nathalie laure deselys a ?crit : theres very little chance i can be there at 6pm friday but i will try boris you will may have to do this one alone or with someone else; laure --- bk schrieb: > Hi all, > so the experience of tonite rehearsal was a good > start and there's still > a huge amount of work to do. > > The v (voice) and music part was VERY convincing > and great i feel. > Judy's voice was karacho! and the music promising. > > We (i especially, as i do the frame5) really need > to read carefully > this script and understand in detail our actions. > things may not be clear on the performance script > that was sent, please > review the script carefully and post questions. > > For next rehearsal, let's try to be ready to > rehearse at 6 pm (bxl > time) - let's tend to resolve the general technical > and images problems > before. we should start to fine tune the images at > 6pm and quickly start > rehearsal. > > We need to decide what to do with the text > feedback box. in frame 9 > it is ugly i find. maybe if it was in frame 8 it > would be slightly > better. coulnd't we ad a long but thin bar under the > whole 9frame > rectangle? at the same time i like it this box IS > one of the 9 frames. i > suggest it should be moved to frame 8. > > Nathalie, i wished that the greys where more > granular, with fewer > variations of charachter between them. > > Please Chlo? can you explain us what is your idea > with the colors? > --- > > > Now Cym, hope those words will help you: > > And can someone send me a few lines about the > piece, very short, and, > > more important, why did you choose this piece for > the performance? > > > There's a lot to say about the reasons for aether9 > to adapt "Ghost > Trio"... here are some elements: > > -- > Until now, the narrative attempts of ?ther9 were > centered on stories and > plots created especially for ?ther9 - 9 boxes, the > coincidence of 9 > different objects (or subjects...) filmed from > various ways and the > impossibility of perfect synchronisation - all this > raises particular > space questions. > > In Beckett's play, there's a very clear distinction > between the > different areas of one room (chair, pallet, door, > window...) - as if > these place weren't obviously and naturally related, > as if they weren't > organically designed to function together, as if the > mere presence of 1 > chair (or stool), 1 pallet (or basic bed), 1 door > and 1 window together > in 1 room was questionable, problematic. This rather > existential > question, the feeling it produces, is very close to > what happened in > some of aether9's previous experiments where we > created 1 space (when we > attempted to create zones where physical subjects, > metaphorical subjects > or human figures existed all trough the 9 frames of > aether9) > --> this kind of question perfectly suits the > aether9 collaboration > potential - almost a metaphor for aether9 human > structure: we are an art > collective (not a room...), so "we are together" > naturally, but how do > we function together? how do we share the grant for > example? how do we > coordinate? we always have to question quite hard > those issues that > aren't so problematic in more classical art > collectives. > > -- > Beckett's approaches the potential of each space > (the voice, the > setting, narration, time, music...) by reducing it > to a minimal > expression, with few variations. Through a process > of repetition > practised at various levels in Ghost Trio, the > spectator is brought to > be interested in these space questions. On the one > hand, the voice (V) > is devoted to a tautological play by giving us > information (kinds of > "stage directions" ) that the camera delivers to us > too. In addition, we > always return to the same objects and the same > actions, sometimes > repeating entire sequences of action. > > These processes are very well harmonized with the > technical and > semiological possibilities of ?ther9. Aether9 > (technically and > interface-wise) is a very minimalist thing as well. > Just like Beckett endeavoured to enumerate, > distinguish and to assign > forms, colors, sounds and positions in space, ?ther9 > plays with the > series in the geometrical rectangle formed by the 9 > screens. > "the history" itself is contained in germ in rare > and isolated moments > which open on the interior space of S, the principal > character. It is > the case at the beginning of act II for example. > This economy in > dramatic means is necessary in a device > characterized by a multplicity > of point of views. > > Is there something special, interesting about it, > that makes it > > interesting to play it online via remote > connections? > > > humm... it was written in 1975 for the tv. now we > don't watch tv that > much, do we? kind of dead, the tv. Unlike the > questions Ghost Trio > brings us trough the media of it's time, tv. Where > is the event? what's > the event? Let's see if those questions are relevant > with what we use > today: online networks, hyperspace. What happens to > the actor? He's > alone but he's a spectator as well (to some point > the actor has the > possibility to peak on the html interface at all > times...) What happens > to the spectator? Does the spectator receives a > story? For the first > time in NoviSad we will implement this feedback > shoutbox thing. Only bad > news for the hierarchy of mass media (emmiter --> > receiver punkt schluss > style) > > The ?ther9 project looks for alternatives of > narration after a "century > of cinema" (and tv) - the radical democratization in > picturing > techniques raise the question "how to use with > imagination the news > possibilities of the representation?" To dislodge a > daily tool, to make > it speak between fiction and reality, behind and in > front of a screen, > the perfect interface... > > Are you playing a free interpretation of the > script, or are you trying to keep as > > close as possible to the original, but adapt it > for an online > > performance? > > > mmm... i don't know. i guess it's neither a free > interpretation nor a > strict adaptation, but an unstable adaptation for > the moment. > > -- > Good trip Cym, > Boris > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > __________________________________ Ihr erstes Fernweh? Wo gibt es den sch?nsten Strand? www.yahoo.de/clever _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071213/11c2bba9/attachment.html From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Thu Dec 13 23:41:07 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:41:07 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] RE : why Ghost Trio? In-Reply-To: <4760B5E0.10207 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <784078.11626.qm {a+} web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi ok i try to answer and have questions too to be more precise about greys: it is ugly i find. maybe if it was in frame 8 it would be slightly better. coulnd't we ad a long but thin bar under the whole 9frame rectangle? at the same time i like it this box IS one of the 9 frames. i suggest it should be moved to frame 8. Ok so i'll use the 7 and 9 frames for greys > Nathalie, i wished that the greys where more granular, with fewer variations of charachter between them. Ok more granular But when you said: 'fewer variations' : you mean between 2 frames or in the same frame not more variation between? otherwise i'll be able to connect midnight friday too cheers Nathalie --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071213/462f5ee1/attachment.html From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Thu Dec 13 23:48:51 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:48:51 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] RE : Re: why Ghost Trio? In-Reply-To: <3d22b5760712130411w46d0ef89v66634d6c3ed2f9b8 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <71728.21290.qm {a+} web26113.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hi again:) i find that so great and connected with this television concept yes i'm agree so maybe chlo? the grey can be more contrast? what do you think? N. chlo? cramer a ?crit : Chloe's answer about the COLOURS: the color concept is very simple. In order to "tune" the space and have an aesthtic choice, we propose to TINT the images of frames 2 (he window), 4 (the Pallet) and 6 (the door) with the 3 colours of an old cathode TV. 2 - red 4 - green 6 - blue there are different ways to do that. Manuel said he's gonna fix the patch, so that there are a couple of "colour correction" tools that allow us this action. So we will most probably choose this option. However, any plastic filter of the appropriate colour could be efficient too. Beckett's TV pieces are always playing with those kind of colour and technical tools, so this choice is quite coherent. It also reacts to V's order "kindly tune accordingly" and the insistant descritpion of the shades of grey and the absence of colour. See you soon C. On 12/13/07, bk wrote: > Hi all, > so the experience of tonite rehearsal was a good start and there's still > a huge amount of work to do. > > The v (voice) and music part was VERY convincing and great i feel. > Judy's voice was karacho! and the music promising. > > We (i especially, as i do the frame5) really need to read carefully > this script and understand in detail our actions. > things may not be clear on the performance script that was sent, please > review the script carefully and post questions. > > For next rehearsal, let's try to be ready to rehearse at 6 pm (bxl > time) - let's tend to resolve the general technical and images problems > before. we should start to fine tune the images at 6pm and quickly start > rehearsal. > > We need to decide what to do with the text feedback box. in frame 9 > it is ugly i find. maybe if it was in frame 8 it would be slightly > better. coulnd't we ad a long but thin bar under the whole 9frame > rectangle? at the same time i like it this box IS one of the 9 frames. i > suggest it should be moved to frame 8. > > Nathalie, i wished that the greys where more granular, with fewer > variations of charachter between them. > > Please Chlo? can you explain us what is your idea with the colors? > --- > > > Now Cym, hope those words will help you: > > And can someone send me a few lines about the piece, very short, and, > > more important, why did you choose this piece for the performance? > > > There's a lot to say about the reasons for aether9 to adapt "Ghost > Trio"... here are some elements: > > -- > Until now, the narrative attempts of ?ther9 were centered on stories and > plots created especially for ?ther9 - 9 boxes, the coincidence of 9 > different objects (or subjects...) filmed from various ways and the > impossibility of perfect synchronisation - all this raises particular > space questions. > > In Beckett's play, there's a very clear distinction between the > different areas of one room (chair, pallet, door, window...) - as if > these place weren't obviously and naturally related, as if they weren't > organically designed to function together, as if the mere presence of 1 > chair (or stool), 1 pallet (or basic bed), 1 door and 1 window together > in 1 room was questionable, problematic. This rather existential > question, the feeling it produces, is very close to what happened in > some of aether9's previous experiments where we created 1 space (when we > attempted to create zones where physical subjects, metaphorical subjects > or human figures existed all trough the 9 frames of aether9) > --> this kind of question perfectly suits the aether9 collaboration > potential - almost a metaphor for aether9 human structure: we are an art > collective (not a room...), so "we are together" naturally, but how do > we function together? how do we share the grant for example? how do we > coordinate? we always have to question quite hard those issues that > aren't so problematic in more classical art collectives. > > -- > Beckett's approaches the potential of each space (the voice, the > setting, narration, time, music...) by reducing it to a minimal > expression, with few variations. Through a process of repetition > practised at various levels in Ghost Trio, the spectator is brought to > be interested in these space questions. On the one hand, the voice (V) > is devoted to a tautological play by giving us information (kinds of > "stage directions" ) that the camera delivers to us too. In addition, we > always return to the same objects and the same actions, sometimes > repeating entire sequences of action. > > These processes are very well harmonized with the technical and > semiological possibilities of ?ther9. Aether9 (technically and > interface-wise) is a very minimalist thing as well. > Just like Beckett endeavoured to enumerate, distinguish and to assign > forms, colors, sounds and positions in space, ?ther9 plays with the > series in the geometrical rectangle formed by the 9 screens. > "the history" itself is contained in germ in rare and isolated moments > which open on the interior space of S, the principal character. It is > the case at the beginning of act II for example. This economy in > dramatic means is necessary in a device characterized by a multplicity > of point of views. > > Is there something special, interesting about it, that makes it > > interesting to play it online via remote connections? > > > humm... it was written in 1975 for the tv. now we don't watch tv that > much, do we? kind of dead, the tv. Unlike the questions Ghost Trio > brings us trough the media of it's time, tv. Where is the event? what's > the event? Let's see if those questions are relevant with what we use > today: online networks, hyperspace. What happens to the actor? He's > alone but he's a spectator as well (to some point the actor has the > possibility to peak on the html interface at all times...) What happens > to the spectator? Does the spectator receives a story? For the first > time in NoviSad we will implement this feedback shoutbox thing. Only bad > news for the hierarchy of mass media (emmiter --> receiver punkt schluss > style) > > The ?ther9 project looks for alternatives of narration after a "century > of cinema" (and tv) - the radical democratization in picturing > techniques raise the question "how to use with imagination the news > possibilities of the representation?" To dislodge a daily tool, to make > it speak between fiction and reality, behind and in front of a screen, > the perfect interface... > > Are you playing a free interpretation of the script, or are you trying to keep as > > close as possible to the original, but adapt it for an online > > performance? > > > mmm... i don't know. i guess it's neither a free interpretation nor a > strict adaptation, but an unstable adaptation for the moment. > > -- > Good trip Cym, > Boris > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > -- Chlo? Cramer 57 av. des Casernes B-1040 Bruxelles Mobile : +32 (0)472 61 62 01 fixe: +32 (0)2 613 79 25 chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071213/e9cbfb53/attachment.html From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Fri Dec 14 00:45:59 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:45:59 -0500 Subject: [aether] Beckett estate & performance rights alarm In-Reply-To: <901386.33510.qm {a+} web62306.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <901386.33510.qm {a+} web62306.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <17310E41-F0C5-4A9B-92A0-B786CEE8B953 {a+} une.net.co> Judy: this is very clearly, good work! i wish it will not be a problem to have the rights to adaptate this play in our format. i think beckett will be agree with us if he was alive! but you are rigth worring about this delicate copy rights subject. we have been working with something similar once. a friend did a video with the real voice of Julio Cortazar (argentina writer), he was reading a story. we distribute the videos like creative commons thing. but we didn t has the rigth directly from people related. i think we have to be cool about it, and like a Dj... do a very free interpretation, or say that. Thats all. paula El 13/12/2007, a las 10:54, Judy Nylon escribi?: > I have done further research into the rights issue with regard to > touching Beckett's work only to find that the NYC agent is not > really in charge and that the nephew, Edward has earned a > reputation of being a nightmare. I have attached an (edited) doc > of one of the many stories across the web about how he has > prevented Beckett's work reaching the public. > > At some point we must consider the ways around this because we will > not receive this man's blessing at any price. However, if > everything remains web-based in its production and presentation, he > will have nowhere to drop his lawsuits & 'cease and desist' orders. > We will have to change the name of the play/never call it an > adaptation and perhaps morph it into something else......in my > opinion......possibly retaining Beckett himself as the character (f) > > Judy-- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071213/c061bbf6/attachment.html From chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com Fri Dec 14 11:42:28 2007 From: chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?chlo=E9_cramer?=) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:42:28 +0100 Subject: [aether] RE : Re: why Ghost Trio? In-Reply-To: <71728.21290.qm {a+} web26113.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <3d22b5760712130411w46d0ef89v66634d6c3ed2f9b8 {a+} mail.gmail.com> <71728.21290.qm {a+} web26113.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3d22b5760712140242v32f2663cof272e215ec69567b {a+} mail.gmail.com> ABOUT GREYS: yes, more contrast could ba an option... we could also try more abstract: granular, blurry, shady... Little variations, not too much movement. Something inspired by a disturbed TV ("?cran neige")? Why not. I won't be there tonight but Boris's eye on this matter (as we discussed it) will suit our intentions I guess. See you tomorow Chlo? On 12/13/07, fougeras nathalie wrote: > hi again:) > i find that so great and connected with this television concept yes > i'm agree > so maybe chlo? the grey can be more contrast? > what do you think? > N. > > > > chlo? cramer a ?crit : > Chloe's answer about the COLOURS: > > the color concept is very simple. > In order to "tune" the space and have an aesthtic choice, we propose > to TINT the images of frames 2 (he window), 4 (the Pallet) and 6 (the > door) with the 3 colours of an old cathode TV. > 2 - red > 4 - green > 6 - blue > > there are different ways to do that. Manuel said he's gonna fix the > patch, so that there are a couple of "colour correction" tools that > allow us this action. So we will most probably choose this option. > However, any plastic filter of the appropriate colour could be > efficient too. > > Beckett's TV pieces are always playing with those kind of colour and > technical tools, so this choice is quite coherent. It also reacts to > V's order "kindly tune accordingly" and the insistant descritpion of > the shades of grey and the absence of colour. > > See you soon > C. > > > On 12/13/07, bk wrote: > > Hi all, > > so the experience of tonite rehearsal was a good start and there's still > > a huge amount of work to do. > > > The v (voice) and music part was VERY convincing and great i feel. > > Judy's voice was karacho! and the music promising. > > > We (i especially, as i do the frame5) really need to read carefully > > this script and understand in detail our actions. > > things may not be clear on the performance script that was sent, please > > review the script carefully and post questions. > > > For next rehearsal, let's try to be ready to rehearse at 6 pm (bxl > > time) - let's tend to resolve the general technical and images problems > > before. we should start to fine tune the images at 6pm and quickly start > > rehearsal. > > > We need to decide what to do with the text feedback box. in frame 9 > > it is ugly i find. maybe if it was in frame 8 it would be slightly > > better. coulnd't we ad a long but thin bar under the whole 9frame > > rectangle? at the same time i like it this box IS one of the 9 frames. i > > suggest it should be moved to frame 8. > > > Nathalie, i wished that the greys where more granular, with fewer > > variations of charachter between them. > > > Please Chlo? can you explain us what is your idea with the colors? > > --- > > > > > Now Cym, hope those words will help you: > > > And can someone send me a few lines about the piece, very short, and, > > > more important, why did you choose this piece for the performance? > > > > > There's a lot to say about the reasons for aether9 to adapt "Ghost > > Trio"... here are some elements: > > > > -- > > Until now, the narrative attempts of ?ther9 were centered on stories and > > plots created especially for ?ther9 - 9 boxes, the coincidence of 9 > > different objects (or subjects...) filmed from various ways and the > > impossibility of perfect synchronisation - all this raises particular > > space questions. > > > > In Beckett's play, there's a very clear distinction between the > > different areas of one room (chair, pallet, door, window...) - as if > > these place weren't obviously and naturally related, as if they weren't > > organically designed to function together, as if the mere presence of 1 > > chair (or stool), 1 pallet (or basic bed), 1 door and 1 window together > > in 1 room was questionable, problematic. This rather existential > > question, the feeling it produces, is very close to what happened in > > some of aether9's previous experiments where we created 1 space (when we > > attempted to create zones where physical subjects, metaphorical subjects > > or human figures existed all trough the 9 frames of aether9) > > --> this kind of question perfectly suits the aether9 collaboration > > potential - almost a metaphor for aether9 human structure: we are an art > > collective (not a room...), so "we are together" naturally, but how do > > we function together? how do we share the grant for example? how do we > > coordinate? we always have to question quite hard those issues that > > aren't so problematic in more classical art collectives. > > > > -- > > Beckett's approaches the potential of each space (the voice, the > > setting, narration, time, music...) by reducing it to a minimal > > expression, with few variations. Through a process of repetition > > practised at various levels in Ghost Trio, the spectator is brought to > > be interested in these space questions. On the one hand, the voice (V) > > is devoted to a tautological play by giving us information (kinds of > > "stage directions" ) that the camera delivers to us too. In addition, we > > always return to the same objects and the same actions, sometimes > > repeating entire sequences of action. > > > > These processes are very well harmonized with the technical and > > semiological possibilities of ?ther9. Aether9 (technically and > > interface-wise) is a very minimalist thing as well. > > Just like Beckett endeavoured to enumerate, distinguish and to assign > > forms, colors, sounds and positions in space, ?ther9 plays with the > > series in the geometrical rectangle formed by the 9 screens. > > "the history" itself is contained in germ in rare and isolated moments > > which open on the interior space of S, the principal character. It is > > the case at the beginning of act II for example. This economy in > > dramatic means is necessary in a device characterized by a multplicity > > of point of views. > > > Is there something special, interesting about it, that makes it > > > interesting to play it online via remote connections? > > > > > humm... it was written in 1975 for the tv. now we don't watch tv that > > much, do we? kind of dead, the tv. Unlike the questions Ghost Trio > > brings us trough the media of it's time, tv. Where is the event? what's > > the event? Let's see if those questions are relevant with what we use > > today: online networks, hyperspace. What happens to the actor? He's > > alone but he's a spectator as well (to some point the actor has the > > possibility to peak on the html interface at all times...) What happens > > to the spectator? Does the spectator receives a story? For the first > > time in NoviSad we will implement this feedback shoutbox thing. Only bad > > news for the hierarchy of mass media (emmiter --> receiver punkt schluss > > style) > > > > The ?ther9 project looks for alternatives of narration after a "century > > of cinema" (and tv) - the radical democratization in picturing > > techniques raise the question "how to use with imagination the news > > possibilities of the representation?" To dislodge a daily tool, to make > > it speak between fiction and reality, behind and in front of a screen, > > the perfect interface... > > > Are you playing a free interpretation of the script, or are you trying > to keep as > > > close as possible to the original, but adapt it for an online > > > performance? > > > > > mmm... i don't know. i guess it's neither a free interpretation nor a > > strict adaptation, but an unstable adaptation for the moment. > > > > -- > > Good trip Cym, > > Boris > > _______________________________________________ > > aether mailing list > > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > > > -- > Chlo? Cramer > 57 av. des Casernes > B-1040 Bruxelles > > Mobile : +32 (0)472 61 62 01 > fixe: +32 (0)2 613 79 25 > > chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > > ________________________________ > Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! > Mail > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > -- Chlo? Cramer 57 av. des Casernes B-1040 Bruxelles Mobile : +32 (0)472 61 62 01 fixe: +32 (0)2 613 79 25 chloecramer at [nospam] gmail.com From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Fri Dec 14 12:44:40 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:44:40 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] RE : Re: RE : Re: why Ghost Trio? / about Greys In-Reply-To: <3d22b5760712140242v32f2663cof272e215ec69567b {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <781778.72127.qm {a+} web26109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I take note just this last question: >i wished that the greys (...) with fewer variations of charachter between them. But when you said: 'fewer variations' : you mean between 2 frames (7 & 9now) or in the same frame not more variation between during the performance, i mean stay with the same grey in a frame? chlo? cramer a ?crit : ABOUT GREYS: yes, more contrast could ba an option... we could also try more abstract: granular, blurry, shady... Little variations, not too much movement. Something inspired by a disturbed TV ("?cran neige")? Why not. I won't be there tonight but Boris's eye on this matter (as we discussed it) will suit our intentions I guess. See you tomorow Chlo? On 12/13/07, fougeras nathalie wrote: > hi again:) > i find that so great and connected with this television concept yes > i'm agree > so maybe chlo? the grey can be more contrast? > what do you think? > N. > > > > chlo? cramer a ?crit : > Chloe's answer about the COLOURS: > > the color concept is very simple. > In order to "tune" the space and have an aesthtic choice, we propose > to TINT the images of frames 2 (he window), 4 (the Pallet) and 6 (the > door) with the 3 colours of an old cathode TV. > 2 - red > 4 - green > 6 - blue > > there are different ways to do that. Manuel said he's gonna fix the > patch, so that there are a couple of "colour correction" tools that > allow us this action. So we will most probably choose this option. > However, any plastic filter of the appropriate colour could be > efficient too. > > Beckett's TV pieces are always playing with those kind of colour and > technical tools, so this choice is quite coherent. It also reacts to > V's order "kindly tune accordingly" and the insistant descritpion of > the shades of grey and the absence of colour. > > See you soon > C. > > > On 12/13/07, bk wrote: > > Hi all, > > so the experience of tonite rehearsal was a good start and there's still > > a huge amount of work to do. > > > The v (voice) and music part was VERY convincing and great i feel. > > Judy's voice was karacho! and the music promising. > > > We (i especially, as i do the frame5) really need to read carefully > > this script and understand in detail our actions. > > things may not be clear on the performance script that was sent, please > > review the script carefully and post questions. > > > For next rehearsal, let's try to be ready to rehearse at 6 pm (bxl > > time) - let's tend to resolve the general technical and images problems > > before. we should start to fine tune the images at 6pm and quickly start > > rehearsal. > > > We need to decide what to do with the text feedback box. in frame 9 > > it is ugly i find. maybe if it was in frame 8 it would be slightly > > better. coulnd't we ad a long but thin bar under the whole 9frame > > rectangle? at the same time i like it this box IS one of the 9 frames. i > > suggest it should be moved to frame 8. > > > Nathalie, i wished that the greys where more granular, with fewer > > variations of charachter between them. > > > Please Chlo? can you explain us what is your idea with the colors? > > --- > > > > > Now Cym, hope those words will help you: > > > And can someone send me a few lines about the piece, very short, and, > > > more important, why did you choose this piece for the performance? > > > > > There's a lot to say about the reasons for aether9 to adapt "Ghost > > Trio"... here are some elements: > > > > -- > > Until now, the narrative attempts of ?ther9 were centered on stories and > > plots created especially for ?ther9 - 9 boxes, the coincidence of 9 > > different objects (or subjects...) filmed from various ways and the > > impossibility of perfect synchronisation - all this raises particular > > space questions. > > > > In Beckett's play, there's a very clear distinction between the > > different areas of one room (chair, pallet, door, window...) - as if > > these place weren't obviously and naturally related, as if they weren't > > organically designed to function together, as if the mere presence of 1 > > chair (or stool), 1 pallet (or basic bed), 1 door and 1 window together > > in 1 room was questionable, problematic. This rather existential > > question, the feeling it produces, is very close to what happened in > > some of aether9's previous experiments where we created 1 space (when we > > attempted to create zones where physical subjects, metaphorical subjects > > or human figures existed all trough the 9 frames of aether9) > > --> this kind of question perfectly suits the aether9 collaboration > > potential - almost a metaphor for aether9 human structure: we are an art > > collective (not a room...), so "we are together" naturally, but how do > > we function together? how do we share the grant for example? how do we > > coordinate? we always have to question quite hard those issues that > > aren't so problematic in more classical art collectives. > > > > -- > > Beckett's approaches the potential of each space (the voice, the > > setting, narration, time, music...) by reducing it to a minimal > > expression, with few variations. Through a process of repetition > > practised at various levels in Ghost Trio, the spectator is brought to > > be interested in these space questions. On the one hand, the voice (V) > > is devoted to a tautological play by giving us information (kinds of > > "stage directions" ) that the camera delivers to us too. In addition, we > > always return to the same objects and the same actions, sometimes > > repeating entire sequences of action. > > > > These processes are very well harmonized with the technical and > > semiological possibilities of ?ther9. Aether9 (technically and > > interface-wise) is a very minimalist thing as well. > > Just like Beckett endeavoured to enumerate, distinguish and to assign > > forms, colors, sounds and positions in space, ?ther9 plays with the > > series in the geometrical rectangle formed by the 9 screens. > > "the history" itself is contained in germ in rare and isolated moments > > which open on the interior space of S, the principal character. It is > > the case at the beginning of act II for example. This economy in > > dramatic means is necessary in a device characterized by a multplicity > > of point of views. > > > Is there something special, interesting about it, that makes it > > > interesting to play it online via remote connections? > > > > > humm... it was written in 1975 for the tv. now we don't watch tv that > > much, do we? kind of dead, the tv. Unlike the questions Ghost Trio > > brings us trough the media of it's time, tv. Where is the event? what's > > the event? Let's see if those questions are relevant with what we use > > today: online networks, hyperspace. What happens to the actor? He's > > alone but he's a spectator as well (to some point the actor has the > > possibility to peak on the html interface at all times...) What happens > > to the spectator? Does the spectator receives a story? For the first > > time in NoviSad we will implement this feedback shoutbox thing. Only bad > > news for the hierarchy of mass media (emmiter --> receiver punkt schluss > > style) > > > > The ?ther9 project looks for alternatives of narration after a "century > > of cinema" (and tv) - the radical democratization in picturing > > techniques raise the question "how to use with imagination the news > > possibilities of the representation?" To dislodge a daily tool, to make > > it speak between fiction and reality, behind and in front of a screen, > > the perfect interface... > > > Are you playing a free interpretation of the script, or are you trying > to keep as > > > close as possible to the original, but adapt it for an online > > > performance? > > > > > mmm... i don't know. i guess it's neither a free interpretation nor a > > strict adaptation, but an unstable adaptation for the moment. > > > > -- > > Good trip Cym, > > Boris > > _______________________________________________ > > aether mailing list > > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > > > -- > Chlo? 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071214/71229512/attachment.html From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Fri Dec 14 15:02:03 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:02:03 +0100 Subject: [aether] today's reheasal In-Reply-To: <539633.71285.qm {a+} web26104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <539633.71285.qm {a+} web26104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47628CDB.7060508 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Hi, today we rehearse! at 6 pm bxl time. sorry Nathalie if there was any misundertanding. > about the right's we could protect ourselves somewhat by stating that we do "A study around Ghost Trio" instead of an adaptation. > Cym, you changed your email adress to cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com for the moment, right? well that's all for the moment, see you later, Boris fougeras nathalie wrote: > hi > > ah ok now is 6pm in the chat we spoke about 2pm so i have an > appointment 7pm so too much short for me > ok i had yet record other grey variations but no rain so if someone > have that..? > thanks > good rehearsal tomorrow > i'll be able to log saturday 21pm > > cheers > Nathalie > > > */laure deselys /* a ?crit : > > theres very little chance i can be there at 6pm friday > but i will try > > boris you will may have to do this one alone or with > someone else; > > laure > > > --- bk schrieb: > > > Hi all, > > so the experience of tonite rehearsal was a good > > start and there's still > > a huge amount of work to do. > > > The v (voice) and music part was VERY convincing > > and great i feel. > > Judy's voice was karacho! and the music promising. > > > We (i especially, as i do the frame5) really need > > to read carefully > > this script and understand in detail our actions. > > things may not be clear on the performance script > > that was sent, please > > review the script carefully and post questions. > > > For next rehearsal, let's try to be ready to > > rehearse at 6 pm (bxl > > time) - let's tend to resolve the general technical > > and images problems > > before. we should start to fine tune the images at > > 6pm and quickly start > > rehearsal. > > > We need to decide what to do with the text > > feedback box. in frame 9 > > it is ugly i find. maybe if it was in frame 8 it > > would be slightly > > better. coulnd't we ad a long but thin bar under the > > whole 9frame > > rectangle? at the same time i like it this box IS > > one of the 9 frames. i > > suggest it should be moved to frame 8. > > > Nathalie, i wished that the greys where more > > granular, with fewer > > variations of charachter between them. > > > Please Chlo? can you explain us what is your idea > > with the colors? > > --- > > > > > Now Cym, hope those words will help you: > > > And can someone send me a few lines about the > > piece, very short, and, > > > more important, why did you choose this piece for > > the performance? > > > > > There's a lot to say about the reasons for aether9 > > to adapt "Ghost > > Trio"... here are some elements: > > > > -- > > Until now, the narrative attempts of ?ther9 were > > centered on stories and > > plots created especially for ?ther9 - 9 boxes, the > > coincidence of 9 > > different objects (or subjects...) filmed from > > various ways and the > > impossibility of perfect synchronisation - all this > > raises particular > > space questions. > > > > In Beckett's play, there's a very clear distinction > > between the > > different areas of one room (chair, pallet, door, > > window...) - as if > > these place weren't obviously and naturally related, > > as if they weren't > > organically designed to function together, as if the > > mere presence of 1 > > chair (or stool), 1 pallet (or basic bed), 1 door > > and 1 window together > > in 1 room was questionable, problematic. This rather > > existential > > question, the feeling it produces, is very close to > > what happened in > > some of aether9's previous experiments where we > > created 1 space (when we > > attempted to create zones where physical subjects, > > metaphorical subjects > > or human figures existed all trough the 9 frames of > > aether9) > > --> this kind of question perfectly suits the > > aether9 collaboration > > potential - almost a metaphor for aether9 human > > structure: we are an art > > collective (not a room...), so "we are together" > > naturally, but how do > > we function together? how do we share the grant for > > example? how do we > > coordinate? we always have to question quite hard > > those issues that > > aren't so problematic in more classical art > > collectives. > > > > -- > > Beckett's approaches the potential of each space > > (the voice, the > > setting, narration, time, music...) by reducing it > > to a minimal > > expression, with few variations. Through a process > > of repetition > > practised at various levels in Ghost Trio, the > > spectator is brought to > > be interested in these space questions. On the one > > hand, the voice (V) > > is devoted to a tautological play by giving us > > information (kinds of > > "stage directions" ) that the camera delivers to us > > too. In addition, we > > always return to the same objects and the same > > actions, sometimes > > repeating entire sequences of action. > > > > These processes are very well harmonized with the > > technical and > > semiological possibilities of ?ther9. Aether9 > > (technically and > > interface-wise) is a very minimalist thing as well. > > Just like Beckett endeavoured to enumerate, > > distinguish and to assign > > forms, colors, sounds and positions in space, ?ther9 > > plays with the > > series in the geometrical rectangle formed by the 9 > > screens. > > "the history" itself is contained in germ in rare > > and isolated moments > > which open on the interior space of S, the principal > > character. It is > > the case at the beginning of act II for example. > > This economy in > > dramatic means is necessary in a device > > characterized by a multplicity > > of point of views. > > > Is there something special, interesting about it, > > that makes it > > > interesting to play it online via remote > > connections? > > > > > humm... it was written in 1975 for the tv. now we > > don't watch tv that > > much, do we? kind of dead, the tv. Unlike the > > questions Ghost Trio > > brings us trough the media of it's time, tv. Where > > is the event? what's > > the event? Let's see if those questions are relevant > > with what we use > > today: online networks, hyperspace. What happens to > > the actor? He's > > alone but he's a spectator as well (to some point > > the actor has the > > possibility to peak on the html interface at all > > times...) What happens > > to the spectator? Does the spectator receives a > > story? For the first > > time in NoviSad we will implement this feedback > > shoutbox thing. Only bad > > news for the hierarchy of mass media (emmiter --> > > receiver punkt schluss > > style) > > > > The ?ther9 project looks for alternatives of > > narration after a "century > > of cinema" (and tv) - the radical democratization in > > picturing > > techniques raise the question "how to use with > > imagination the news > > possibilities of the representation?" To dislodge a > > daily tool, to make > > it speak between fiction and reality, behind and in > > front of a screen, > > the perfect interface... > > > Are you playing a free interpretation of the > > script, or are you trying to keep as > > > close as possible to the original, but adapt it > > for an online > > > performance? > > > > > mmm... i don't know. i guess it's neither a free > > interpretation nor a > > strict adaptation, but an unstable adaptation for > > the moment. > > > > -- > > Good trip Cym, > > Boris > > _______________________________________________ > > aether mailing list > > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > > > > __________________________________ Ihr erstes Fernweh? Wo gibt es > den sch?nsten Strand? www.yahoo.de/clever > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails > > vers Yahoo! Mail > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Fri Dec 14 17:05:05 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:05:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] today's reheasal & re-write of announcement In-Reply-To: <47628CDB.7060508 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <814176.38067.qm {a+} web62304.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Ready for rehearsal. I reworked this announcement without mention of Beckett or the title, to send just to a few friends (personal and on Myspace). I am probably over cautious......but would like people to see it. They are part of the development process. Aether9:: Saturday 15th:: LIVE MUSIC THEATER WEB PERFORMANCE I do love this kind of thing and have been working in the art collective Aether9 where we are of different nationalities, different ages, and backgrounds but all jazzed by the idea of seeing what might be done with the new tools, but also by being independent of the control systems in the arts of the last century. We?re presenting a live multi-based web link up on Saturday December 15th. Loosely adapted from a theater piece written in 1975, taped in ?76 and televised on BBC2 in 1977. We are mixing it with a bit of dub on classic piano and samples. It is a parallel universe played out in the same slice of time as the first wave of British punk. The language will be English. The development of live storytelling without a single fixed location is on going. My fellow aethernauts and I would be delighted if you would join us on-line at our first chance to bring this piece from TV to a wider audience. It doesn?t matter what you?re wearing and you won?t have to worry about how you?re getting home. Members of Aether9 will be performing from different locations: Medellin, Yorba Linda, NYC , Brussels, Geneva, and Paris. The audience, those in the same room, will be joined at ?Videomedja 2007? at the Museum of Vojvodina, Novi Sad, Serbia, by two Aether9 artists from Austria and Slovinia who will host the Q & A which follows the performance. There are no complicated programs or hardware involved. It is easier than getting out of the house. I hope you will look through our site at www.1904.cc where the collaborative process involved is quite transparent, our project laid out, and participants named. Here we will make the links ?to set up your computer? so easy that you will practically fall through them to the new venue. You will need to go through one link to find out what the time will be where you are, when it is Saturday at 11:15 PM in Serbia. The second link opens the audience viewing window and a third link leads to instructions to stream sound. bk wrote: Hi, today we rehearse! at 6 pm bxl time. sorry Nathalie if there was any misundertanding. > about the right's we could protect ourselves somewhat by stating that we do "A study around Ghost Trio" instead of an adaptation. > Cym, you changed your email adress to cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com for the moment, right? well that's all for the moment, see you later, Boris fougeras nathalie wrote: > hi > > ah ok now is 6pm in the chat we spoke about 2pm so i have an > appointment 7pm so too much short for me > ok i had yet record other grey variations but no rain so if someone > have that..? > thanks > good rehearsal tomorrow > i'll be able to log saturday 21pm > > cheers > Nathalie > > > */laure deselys /* a ?crit : > > theres very little chance i can be there at 6pm friday > but i will try > > boris you will may have to do this one alone or with > someone else; > > laure > > > --- bk schrieb: > > > Hi all, > > so the experience of tonite rehearsal was a good > > start and there's still > > a huge amount of work to do. > > > The v (voice) and music part was VERY convincing > > and great i feel. > > Judy's voice was karacho! and the music promising. > > > We (i especially, as i do the frame5) really need > > to read carefully > > this script and understand in detail our actions. > > things may not be clear on the performance script > > that was sent, please > > review the script carefully and post questions. > > > For next rehearsal, let's try to be ready to > > rehearse at 6 pm (bxl > > time) - let's tend to resolve the general technical > > and images problems > > before. we should start to fine tune the images at > > 6pm and quickly start > > rehearsal. > > > We need to decide what to do with the text > > feedback box. in frame 9 > > it is ugly i find. maybe if it was in frame 8 it > > would be slightly > > better. coulnd't we ad a long but thin bar under the > > whole 9frame > > rectangle? at the same time i like it this box IS > > one of the 9 frames. i > > suggest it should be moved to frame 8. > > > Nathalie, i wished that the greys where more > > granular, with fewer > > variations of charachter between them. > > > Please Chlo? can you explain us what is your idea > > with the colors? > > --- > > > > > Now Cym, hope those words will help you: > > > And can someone send me a few lines about the > > piece, very short, and, > > > more important, why did you choose this piece for > > the performance? > > > > > There's a lot to say about the reasons for aether9 > > to adapt "Ghost > > Trio"... here are some elements: > > > > -- > > Until now, the narrative attempts of ?ther9 were > > centered on stories and > > plots created especially for ?ther9 - 9 boxes, the > > coincidence of 9 > > different objects (or subjects...) filmed from > > various ways and the > > impossibility of perfect synchronisation - all this > > raises particular > > space questions. > > > > In Beckett's play, there's a very clear distinction > > between the > > different areas of one room (chair, pallet, door, > > window...) - as if > > these place weren't obviously and naturally related, > > as if they weren't > > organically designed to function together, as if the > > mere presence of 1 > > chair (or stool), 1 pallet (or basic bed), 1 door > > and 1 window together > > in 1 room was questionable, problematic. This rather > > existential > > question, the feeling it produces, is very close to > > what happened in > > some of aether9's previous experiments where we > > created 1 space (when we > > attempted to create zones where physical subjects, > > metaphorical subjects > > or human figures existed all trough the 9 frames of > > aether9) > > --> this kind of question perfectly suits the > > aether9 collaboration > > potential - almost a metaphor for aether9 human > > structure: we are an art > > collective (not a room...), so "we are together" > > naturally, but how do > > we function together? how do we share the grant for > > example? how do we > > coordinate? we always have to question quite hard > > those issues that > > aren't so problematic in more classical art > > collectives. > > > > -- > > Beckett's approaches the potential of each space > > (the voice, the > > setting, narration, time, music...) by reducing it > > to a minimal > > expression, with few variations. Through a process > > of repetition > > practised at various levels in Ghost Trio, the > > spectator is brought to > > be interested in these space questions. On the one > > hand, the voice (V) > > is devoted to a tautological play by giving us > > information (kinds of > > "stage directions" ) that the camera delivers to us > > too. In addition, we > > always return to the same objects and the same > > actions, sometimes > > repeating entire sequences of action. > > > > These processes are very well harmonized with the > > technical and > > semiological possibilities of ?ther9. Aether9 > > (technically and > > interface-wise) is a very minimalist thing as well. > > Just like Beckett endeavoured to enumerate, > > distinguish and to assign > > forms, colors, sounds and positions in space, ?ther9 > > plays with the > > series in the geometrical rectangle formed by the 9 > > screens. > > "the history" itself is contained in germ in rare > > and isolated moments > > which open on the interior space of S, the principal > > character. It is > > the case at the beginning of act II for example. > > This economy in > > dramatic means is necessary in a device > > characterized by a multplicity > > of point of views. > > > Is there something special, interesting about it, > > that makes it > > > interesting to play it online via remote > > connections? > > > > > humm... it was written in 1975 for the tv. now we > > don't watch tv that > > much, do we? kind of dead, the tv. Unlike the > > questions Ghost Trio > > brings us trough the media of it's time, tv. Where > > is the event? what's > > the event? Let's see if those questions are relevant > > with what we use > > today: online networks, hyperspace. What happens to > > the actor? He's > > alone but he's a spectator as well (to some point > > the actor has the > > possibility to peak on the html interface at all > > times...) What happens > > to the spectator? Does the spectator receives a > > story? For the first > > time in NoviSad we will implement this feedback > > shoutbox thing. Only bad > > news for the hierarchy of mass media (emmiter --> > > receiver punkt schluss > > style) > > > > The ?ther9 project looks for alternatives of > > narration after a "century > > of cinema" (and tv) - the radical democratization in > > picturing > > techniques raise the question "how to use with > > imagination the news > > possibilities of the representation?" To dislodge a > > daily tool, to make > > it speak between fiction and reality, behind and in > > front of a screen, > > the perfect interface... > > > Are you playing a free interpretation of the > > script, or are you trying to keep as > > > close as possible to the original, but adapt it > > for an online > > > performance? > > > > > mmm... i don't know. i guess it's neither a free > > interpretation nor a > > strict adaptation, but an unstable adaptation for > > the moment. > > > > -- > > Good trip Cym, > > Boris > > _______________________________________________ > > aether mailing list > > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > > > > __________________________________ Ihr erstes Fernweh? 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Little variations, not too much > movement. Something inspired by a disturbed TV ("?cran neige")? Why > not. > I won't be there tonight but Boris's eye on this matter (as we > discussed it) will suit our intentions I guess. > See you tomorow > Chlo? > > On 12/13/07, fougeras nathalie wrote: > > hi again:) > > i find that so great and connected with this television concept yes > > i'm agree > > so maybe chlo? the grey can be more contrast? > > what do you think? > > N. > > > > > > > > chlo? cramer a ?crit : > > Chloe's answer about the COLOURS: > > > > the color concept is very simple. > > In order to "tune" the space and have an aesthtic choice, we propose > > to TINT the images of frames 2 (he window), 4 (the Pallet) and 6 > (the > > door) with the 3 colours of an old cathode TV. > > 2 - red > > 4 - green > > 6 - blue > > > > there are different ways to do that. Manuel said he's gonna fix the > > patch, so that there are a couple of "colour correction" tools that > > allow us this action. So we will most probably choose this option. > > However, any plastic filter of the appropriate colour could be > > efficient too. > > > > Beckett's TV pieces are always playing with those kind of colour and > > technical tools, so this choice is quite coherent. It also reacts to > > V's order "kindly tune accordingly" and the insistant descritpion of > > the shades of grey and the absence of colour. > > > > See you soon > > C. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071214/8ec9e3ed/attachment.html From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Sat Dec 15 00:00:32 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:00:32 +0100 Subject: [aether] novi sad 5pm and 23:15 Message-ID: <95c795f70712141500k53548ce4h2518634d9a537ef6 {a+} mail.gmail.com> hi all i made it to novi sad. i am writing you now from nenad's computer on the bar in the vojvodina museum. it was almost 9 hours drive to novi sad. don't know why, hungary is soooo big.... anyway, i am here and we can do rehearsal tomorrow at 5pm projection room 2 in fact are 3 projection rooms, the project the same presentations, videos, on 3 screens simultaneously. the room is divided into 3 small rooms. so i think also aether 9 will be in the three rooms at the same time, but i will check everything tomorrow. there is wireless connection here everywhere in the museum. i will see tomorrow if it works on my computer. but probably in the daytime i will go around novi sad for a walk and collect some impressions of the town. so i will be online at 5pm for rehearsal. ps sorry i didn't answer anymore yesterday. i was kind of ill and stayed in bed most of the day. also this morning i was still not so well, but in the afternoon i finally got the energy to get in the car and drive to novi sad. so here i am now... see you, cym ps just in case you want to reach me: send sms to 0043 676 5284384 - my mobile phone number From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Sat Dec 15 00:02:26 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:02:26 +0100 Subject: [aether] info Message-ID: <95c795f70712141502n38f15fdds7ea20ef3990467a6 {a+} mail.gmail.com> and thanks for all the info you send. i printed everything out and i think it will be enough to give a short introduction about aether9 and the play see you! cym From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Sat Dec 15 01:53:31 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:53:31 +0100 Subject: [aether] novi sad 5pm and 23:15 In-Reply-To: <95c795f70712141500k53548ce4h2518634d9a537ef6 {a+} mail.gmail.com> References: <95c795f70712141500k53548ce4h2518634d9a537ef6 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: hi cym, thanks for the update we're after a quite exhaustive rehearsal.. we will be online tomorrow at 5 to help you setting things up. the performance looks quite promising.. best, cu in a few hours manu >hi all > >i made it to novi sad. i am writing you now from nenad's computer on >the bar in the vojvodina museum. >it was almost 9 hours drive to novi sad. don't know why, hungary is >soooo big.... > >anyway, i am here and we can do rehearsal tomorrow at 5pm >projection room 2 in fact are 3 projection rooms, the project the same >presentations, videos, on 3 screens simultaneously. the room is >divided into 3 small rooms. >so i think also aether 9 will be in the three rooms at the same time, >but i will check everything tomorrow. > >there is wireless connection here everywhere in the museum. i will see >tomorrow if it works on my computer. > >but probably in the daytime i will go around novi sad for a walk and >collect some impressions of the town. >so i will be online at 5pm for rehearsal. > >ps sorry i didn't answer anymore yesterday. i was kind of ill and >stayed in bed most of the day. also this morning i was still not so >well, but in the afternoon i finally got the energy to get in the car >and drive to novi sad. so here i am now... > >see you, > >cym > > >ps just in case you want to reach me: send sms to 0043 676 5284384 - >my mobile phone number >_______________________________________________ From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Sat Dec 15 12:14:42 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:14:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] RE : Re: second 6 jpgs...aluminum paint In-Reply-To: <355303.947.qm {a+} web62308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <658537.84719.qm {a+} web26113.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hi Judy thank you for this grey material sometimes i think is interesting to have possibility to upload a surimposition of different images with video, maybe an other programmation then to have for a frame.. so now with our interface i thinking to move the grey variation in the frame 8 (middle) during the performance with different textures of grey too.. and keep other frames 7 & 9 like that + rain (if you have send me) cheers Nathalie Judy Nylon a ?crit : These are of the roof surfacing material on my tenement building...after years of NYC exposure. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071215/aa8328c8/attachment.html From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Sat Dec 15 16:15:27 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:15:27 -0500 Subject: [aether] RE : Re: second 6 jpgs...aluminum paint In-Reply-To: <658537.84719.qm {a+} web26113.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <658537.84719.qm {a+} web26113.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8D5ED8D2-4C94-4505-8662-12B80061430B {a+} une.net.co> natahlie, je ne pas trouv? de pluie qui soit adaptable. mais je pense que tu peux enregistrer sur une vitre des goutes d'eau, de l'eatu qui coule, tu le mets avec une lumiere qui s'adapte, et tu travailles en macro ou quelque chose de rapproch?. tu pourra meme le fair avec des photos en raffales. je vais t'envoyer des textures maintenant... paula El 15/12/2007, a las 6:14, fougeras nathalie escribi?: > hi Judy > thank you for this grey material sometimes i think is interesting > to have possibility to upload a surimposition of different images > with video, maybe an other programmation then to have for a frame.. > so now with our interface i thinking to move the grey variation in > the frame 8 (middle) during the performance with different textures > of grey too.. and keep other frames 7 & 9 like that + rain (if you > have send me) > cheers > Nathalie > > > Judy Nylon a ?crit : > These are of the roof surfacing material on my tenement > building...after years of NYC exposure. > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers > Yahoo! Mail > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071215/0405f1d3/attachment.html From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Sat Dec 15 16:48:07 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:48:07 -0500 Subject: [aether] pluie In-Reply-To: <658537.84719.qm {a+} web26113.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <658537.84719.qm {a+} web26113.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <29B542F8-9468-4588-91BD-6FE02060D0B3 {a+} une.net.co> NAtahalie: voil?, je viens de t'envoyer deux fichiers avec yousend it. c'est le sol un peu bouex. il ne pleut pas ici, mais vais essayer de faire une fausse pluie.... paula From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Sat Dec 15 18:31:19 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:31:19 +0100 Subject: [aether] novi sad Message-ID: <95c795f70712150931h76036322y6423b3d28b4255aa {a+} mail.gmail.com> two photos setting up the connections in novi sad on the photo: luka, luka, max and cym we are breaking down the computers again now and go downstairs to watch the performances we have to wait for the right cable to connect the laptop to the projector (beamer) they will bring it later... connection is really slow here...surely not 1,5mb/s so be prepared for a show that updates only every second or so or even slower every 2 or 3 seconds i will make photos, but i don't know about video recording. i will ask okay, i am offline again now. online again later see you, cym -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It reminded me of the fountains at Versailles during "Blanche Nuit". http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://static.flickr.com/79/265105571_6628d18365.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fernandalevy.com/parisiando/labels/nuit%2520blanche.html&h=333&w=500&sz=71&hl=en&start=16&um=1&tbnid=ZyZmxPEfgoxzcM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dversailles%2B%2522blanche%2Bnuit%2522%2B2007%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN Glad you like the silver lava jpgs. They are from the aged material on my roof. Judy... fougeras nathalie wrote: hi Judy thank you for this grey material sometimes i think is interesting to have possibility to upload a surimposition of different images with video, maybe an other programmation then to have for a frame.. so now with our interface i thinking to move the grey variation in the frame 8 (middle) during the performance with different textures of grey too.. and keep other frames 7 & 9 like that + rain (if you have send me) cheers Nathalie Judy Nylon a ?crit : These are of the roof surfacing material on my tenement building...after years of NYC exposure. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! 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It reminded me of the fountains at Versailles during "Blanche Nuit". http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://static.flickr.com/79/265105571_6628d18365.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fernandalevy.com/parisiando/labels/nuit%2520blanche.html&h=333&w=500&sz=71&hl=en&start=16&um=1&tbnid=ZyZmxPEfgoxzcM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dversailles%2B%2522blanche%2Bnuit%2522%2B2007%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN Glad you like the silver lava jpgs. They are from the aged material on my roof. Judy... fougeras nathalie wrote: hi Judy thank you for this grey material sometimes i think is interesting to have possibility to upload a surimposition of different images with video, maybe an other programmation then to have for a frame.. so now with our interface i thinking to move the grey variation in the frame 8 (middle) during the performance with different textures of grey too.. and keep other frames 7 & 9 like that + rain (if you have send me) cheers Nathalie Judy Nylon a ?crit : These are of the roof surfacing material on my tenement building...after years of NYC exposure. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071217/6f482833/attachment.html From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Mon Dec 17 13:15:12 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:15:12 +0100 Subject: [aether] new script for ghost trio In-Reply-To: <210173.71120.qm {a+} web26114.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <210173.71120.qm {a+} web26114.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47666850.6020104 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Hi, i uploaded (http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ghost_script/) a new script ("ghost_timeline.doc") that will make it easier to understand the structure of the performance for next performers (usefull if we are to continue with this ghost trio - i believe we should at leat once more, maybe with different performers). it was a pleasure and a positive stress (as always) to collaborate on this performance. the voice really was good. in the future, i would like to do some kind ?ther9 conference-discussion. as we cannot stream on the same stream from different locations, one group of people could be together somewhere in charge of doing different voices. that's all for the moment, cheers, Boris ps: if you want to be cajoled, read my father's feedback ;-) "We enjoyed the Ghost Stories performance. Compared to the first online performance we saw, technically it was more satisfying with sound, obvious input from remote locations and a timetable. The references were well taken (I enjoyed the wiki on Samuel Beckett) and quite ambitious. - Bravo!" From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Mon Dec 17 14:41:26 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:41:26 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] RE : new script for ghost trio In-Reply-To: <47666850.6020104 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <494774.83064.qm {a+} web26115.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hi thank you for this collaborative work too yes i think too we begin to know us more and we know more too how manage together a online performance and different layers of the communication like help between us, organization. So when we make repetitions together several times before the performance to adjust assistance it's more easy to have interaction between us and with the scenario cheers Nathalie bk a ?crit : Hi, i uploaded (http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ghost_script/) a new script ("ghost_timeline.doc") that will make it easier to understand the structure of the performance for next performers (usefull if we are to continue with this ghost trio - i believe we should at leat once more, maybe with different performers). it was a pleasure and a positive stress (as always) to collaborate on this performance. the voice really was good. in the future, i would like to do some kind ?ther9 conference-discussion. as we cannot stream on the same stream from different locations, one group of people could be together somewhere in charge of doing different voices. that's all for the moment, cheers, Boris ps: if you want to be cajoled, read my father's feedback ;-) "We enjoyed the Ghost Stories performance. Compared to the first online performance we saw, technically it was more satisfying with sound, obvious input from remote locations and a timetable. The references were well taken (I enjoyed the wiki on Samuel Beckett) and quite ambitious. - Bravo!" _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071217/69f84d56/attachment.html From theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org Mon Dec 17 20:39:34 2007 From: theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org (The League of Imaginary Scientists) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:39:34 -0800 Subject: [aether] Thoughts, ghost trio In-Reply-To: <47666850.6020104 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: Greetings, I echo Boris' father - BRAVO! - the audio and well-developed storyline definitely added dimension to the piece (How did the live audience respond? Any post-performance discussions?). Wondering now about the next stage of conceptual and visual development - specifically, how to challenge the symmetrical structure of both story and layout... The grid has its limitations. While the very first aether experiment was chaotic, there is something satisfying in moments that lack choreography, also apparent in the disparity in visual interpretation of the dinner. Is it possible to combine the rigor in the development of Ghost Trio with the chaotic nature of those prior performances? Insert moments of complete chaos into an organized script? Alter the frames at some point? Use a circle instead of a grid (we could do this with lowfi cardboard framing)? An option to leap (click) to a new screen half-way through to view the story told in reverse? Not sure how to challenge the structure - This just seems a natural course after embracing Beckett... (again) Cheers! LUCY On 12/17/07 4:15 AM, "bk" wrote: > Hi, > i uploaded > (http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ghost_script/) a new > script ("ghost_timeline.doc") that will make it easier to understand the > structure of the performance for next performers (usefull if we are to > continue with this ghost trio - i believe we should at leat once more, > maybe with different performers). > > it was a pleasure and a positive stress (as always) to collaborate on > this performance. > > the voice really was good. in the future, i would like to do some kind > ?ther9 conference-discussion. as we cannot stream on the same stream > from different locations, one group of people could be together > somewhere in charge of doing different voices. > > that's all for the moment, > cheers, > Boris > > ps: > if you want to be cajoled, read my father's feedback ;-) > "We enjoyed the Ghost Stories performance. Compared to the first online > performance we saw, technically it was more satisfying with sound, > obvious input from remote locations and a timetable. The references were > well taken (I enjoyed the wiki on Samuel Beckett) and quite ambitious. - > Bravo!" > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether The League of Imaginary Scientists From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Mon Dec 17 23:29:25 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:29:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] new script for ghost trio.....looks more clear. JN In-Reply-To: <47666850.6020104 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <372029.50596.qm {a+} web62304.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Agreed....with other's comments and still feeling a bit spent after this performance. Viz the sound; here in my apt, J and I worked in a tiny space with quite a tight choreography like in a space shuttle. We were glad to realize we can work together like this. I have started to refer to it as "pirate theater"....It was great fun. It feels like the early days of radio or live TV must have felt. We didn't have any expenses except petrol did we? The vox live and the music dub/mash up being live means that we can use sound to fill in on the fly any visual performance glitch/flub in aether productions. Also, I think the clock tic helped us with tension and the overall pacing, but the script supervision running in Skype was crucial. Over all it was a leap forward and yet all the other pieces aether has done might each be thought of as a Scene rehearsals (building blocks) that we may return to again. I thought the (f) actor in Brussels was excellent and also his features read really well in high contrast on camera. Good job & it was the visual pivot. Re: feedback: Beyond the compliments and stirring of the imagination the useful thoughts from friends were as follows: 1) an actor said that it still lacks emotive room in the small screens and we might insert extreme close-up shots to allow us to receive the interior part of the acting. OR...soon maybe we will be able to feature that one square larger when something like that is going on in the script. 2) a filmmaker in Berlin loved the piece and was familiar with Beckett and seemed to know that it was impossible to get the rights to do any adaptations of Beckett's plays. Her only critical comment (among lots of praise) was that the credits were impossible to follow and she wasn't wild about the handwritten "live from wherever" cards. I thought seeing everyone on camera for a second was reminiscent of the informal credits on a Doris Dorrie film. I liked it. 3) I had one person who is close to 70 years say that she couldn't get to it and that the interface still wasn't easy enough. I mention her because she is someone who has a foundation that gives grants and we do want to get everybody to be able to see what we do. 4) tomorrow at their Xmas party, I will hear if anyone at HWKs (www.harvestworks.org) saw this and will start them thinking about sponsoring us to have a gig at the New Museum which just opened a state of the art building on the Bowery a couple of weeks ago. I have been to Location1 (the art space I mentioned before) and feel that they have very little to offer us. Onward....Thanks one and all...good show, it was a pleasure. Judy bk wrote: Hi, i uploaded (http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ghost_script/) a new script ("ghost_timeline.doc") that will make it easier to understand the structure of the performance for next performers (usefull if we are to continue with this ghost trio - i believe we should at leat once more, maybe with different performers). it was a pleasure and a positive stress (as always) to collaborate on this performance. the voice really was good. in the future, i would like to do some kind ?ther9 conference-discussion. as we cannot stream on the same stream from different locations, one group of people could be together somewhere in charge of doing different voices. that's all for the moment, cheers, Boris ps: if you want to be cajoled, read my father's feedback ;-) "We enjoyed the Ghost Stories performance. Compared to the first online performance we saw, technically it was more satisfying with sound, obvious input from remote locations and a timetable. The references were well taken (I enjoyed the wiki on Samuel Beckett) and quite ambitious. - Bravo!" _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071217/54c1a581/attachment.html From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Tue Dec 18 13:27:35 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:27:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] RE : videos and photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <770507.69573.qm {a+} web26109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hi thanks Chris cheers Nathalie christiaan cruz a ?crit : .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } this one was great fun! amazing how well it worked can't wait for the next one! multilocation conference and drink! gotta do somekind of anniversary party in the interface somehow sorry for the delay, forgot to post the links http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/pictures/ http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/video_documentation/PVR00002.ASF enjoy -c _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071218/cd7df44b/attachment.html From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Tue Dec 18 15:17:00 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:17:00 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] proposal performance in Imal evening 16th february 2008 Message-ID: <381342.12569.qm {a+} web26105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi all I have a great news for us.. i'm fixing a conference about streaming and network performance in this Centre of Multim?dia called Imal in Brussel: http://www.imal.org I 'm working with the repsonsable of this center and he is interested. So in the evening of the 16th february 2 performances can be presented, one of them can be an Aether performance because i integrate it then to this event.. Also i'm thinking about a scenario i shall like write for this event and play with you, i can tell you more later.. for info: iMAL is an industriel place 1920 with a bif room 20m x 20m, see here: http://www.imal.org/iMAL_opening/image/batiment/pano_inside_canal.jpg or flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/malicy or on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=imagicy also they have 4 videoproj of 3000 lumens, + 2 little, a sound system JBL, and many computer (mac, iMacg5, iMacs intel, double proc g5, one pc,...). cheers Nathalie --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071218/6c5a06fc/attachment.html From theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org Tue Dec 18 18:01:33 2007 From: theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org (The League of Imaginary Scientists) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:01:33 -0800 Subject: [aether] proposal performance in Imal evening 16th february 2008 In-Reply-To: <381342.12569.qm {a+} web26105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That is good news, and enough time to develop. Been thinking about the many internet ?jam sessions? coming into existence, from ?real? relationships born in second life to cross-continental music collaborations to realtime telematic interactions akin to aether. And these stem from the 1960s even, with Nam June Paik?s early telecommunications experimentation, 1970s a HOLE in SPACE (Galloway and Sherrie Rabinowitz), or even closer to Aether, ?Die Welt in 24 Stunden? ? 1982 project involving a global network of artists, and much, much more. Currently, so much in the ethersphere still relates ? a recent example: http://www.avatarbodycollision.org/about.html and http://upstage.org.nz/blog/?p=101 (related performance and possible venue for aether projects). Also this conference for the future: http://www.htmlles.net/2007/en been thinking about how the aether ?stream? has developed into a cohesive storytelling mechanism...with the addition of audio from the last performance a major step! Thought I?d just throw out...some questions. * The introduction of an audio layer is great ? can we expand this to reflect AETHER, with audio layers as well, from various sound collaborators, ala http://www.ejamming.com/ ?? * The realtime stream combined with realtime performance and mythology and physical artifacts for Remote Fairytales was especially layered ? is there interest in again having a ?real? realtime element that takes place on site and in coordination with the remote actors? (the live actor, the fairytale, the...) * Along this line, one of the League?s general activities is the creation of (fake) artifacts, from our trips to the past, excursions to black holes, colonization of the sea, etc. - what about having physical components that exist alongside the digital narrative? For example, invented correspondence between Samuel Beckett and a noted astrophysicist regarding the nature of time...nonlinear vs. linear... Depending on what direction the narrative takes, I would be quite excited to compose some related ?science? with the league. OK, so as you can see, I?m back from Berlin and can finally breathe in the aether (overdose?)... - LUCY /the League On 12/18/07 6:17 AM, "fougeras nathalie" wrote: > Hi all > > I have a great news for us.. i'm fixing a conference about streaming and > network performance in this Centre of Multim?dia called Imal in Brussel: > http://www.imal.org > I 'm working with the repsonsable of this center and he is interested. > So in the evening of the 16th february 2 performances can be presented, one of > them can be an Aether performance because i integrate it then to this event.. > > Also i'm thinking about a scenario i shall like write for this event and play > with you, i can tell you more later.. > > for info: > iMAL is an industriel place 1920 with a bif room 20m x 20m, see here: > http://www.imal.org/iMAL_opening/image/batiment/pano_inside_canal.jpg > or flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/malicy > or on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=imagicy > also they have 4 videoproj of 3000 lumens, + 2 little, a sound system JBL, and > many computer (mac, iMacg5, iMacs intel, double proc g5, one pc,...). > > > cheers > Nathalie > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071218/7aac5b3b/attachment.html From nova at [nospam] viator.si Tue Dec 18 21:25:07 2007 From: nova at [nospam] viator.si (Luka Princic / Nova Viator) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:25:07 +0100 Subject: [aether] novi sad In-Reply-To: <95c795f70712150931h76036322y6423b3d28b4255aa {a+} mail.gmail.com> References: <95c795f70712150931h76036322y6423b3d28b4255aa {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071218212507.2e39fcf9.nova {a+} viator.si> hey that's me! ;-) just trying to make myself appear more alive on this list as i have been fairly latent lately. mhm. "cym net" : > two photos setting up the connections in novi sad > on the photo: luka, luka, max and cym > > we are breaking down the computers again now and go downstairs to > watch the performances > > we have to wait for the right cable to connect the laptop to the > projector (beamer) > they will bring it later... > > connection is really slow here...surely not 1,5mb/s > so be prepared for a show that updates only every second or so or > even slower every 2 or 3 seconds > > i will make photos, but i don't know about video recording. i will ask > > okay, i am offline again now. online again later > > see you, > > cym > -- l ? http://skylined.org ? http://viator.si ? From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Tue Dec 18 23:01:22 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:01:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] RE : Re: proposal performance in Imal evening 16th february 2008 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <774303.94455.qm {a+} web26104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thanks Lucy mm... i taked note too about this avatarbodycollision & the concept of upstage by a mail sent in the netbehaviour mail list about the festival 'intimateperformance' In fact in this conference day in Brussel (iMAL), we invite different participants who works with these questions : - Le Placard ( audio streaming, erik minikken, http://www.leplacard.org/) - Locus Sonus (projects nocinema.org and sobralasolas, http://nujus.net/~locusonus/site/index.php) - Aether (Manuel come to talk in the conference day :)) - AOM (group in Second life, sixties influences, cut up, telecommunications way..., htpp://avatarorchestra.org) Maybe also the theorician Sher Doruff (http://spresearch.waag.org/papers.html) ...i invite you to read her papers, she was the artistic assistant of the keyworks group now stop/dead (http://www.keyworx.org/) cheers N. The League of Imaginary Scientists a ?crit :Re: [aether] proposal performance in Imal evening 16th february 2008 That is good news, and enough time to develop. Been thinking about the many internet ?jam sessions? coming into existence, from ?real? relationships born in second life to cross-continental music collaborations to realtime telematic interactions akin to aether. And these stem from the 1960s even, with Nam June Paik?s early telecommunications experimentation, 1970s a HOLE in SPACE (Galloway and Sherrie Rabinowitz), or even closer to Aether, ?Die Welt in 24 Stunden? ? 1982 project involving a global network of artists, and much, much more. Currently, so much in the ethersphere still relates ? a recent example: http://www.avatarbodycollision.org/about.html and http://upstage.org.nz/blog/?p=101 (related performance and possible venue for aether projects). Also this conference for the future: http://www.htmlles.net/2007/en been thinking about how the aether ?stream? has developed into a cohesive storytelling mechanism...with the addition of audio from the last performance a major step! Thought I?d just throw out...some questions. The introduction of an audio layer is great ? can we expand this to reflect AETHER, with audio layers as well, from various sound collaborators, ala http://www.ejamming.com/ ?? The realtime stream combined with realtime performance and mythology and physical artifacts for Remote Fairytales was especially layered ? is there interest in again having a ?real? realtime element that takes place on site and in coordination with the remote actors? (the live actor, the fairytale, the...) Along this line, one of the League?s general activities is the creation of (fake) artifacts, from our trips to the past, excursions to black holes, colonization of the sea, etc. - what about having physical components that exist alongside the digital narrative? For example, invented correspondence between Samuel Beckett and a noted astrophysicist regarding the nature of time...nonlinear vs. linear... Depending on what direction the narrative takes, I would be quite excited to compose some related ?science? with the league. OK, so as you can see, I?m back from Berlin and can finally breathe in the aether (overdose?)... - LUCY /the League On 12/18/07 6:17 AM, "fougeras nathalie" wrote: Hi all I have a great news for us.. i'm fixing a conference about streaming and network performance in this Centre of Multim?dia called Imal in Brussel: http://www.imal.org I 'm working with the repsonsable of this center and he is interested. So in the evening of the 16th february 2 performances can be presented, one of them can be an Aether performance because i integrate it then to this event.. Also i'm thinking about a scenario i shall like write for this event and play with you, i can tell you more later.. for info: iMAL is an industriel place 1920 with a bif room 20m x 20m, see here: http://www.imal.org/iMAL_opening/image/batiment/pano_inside_canal.jpg or flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/malicy or on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=imagicy also they have 4 videoproj of 3000 lumens, + 2 little, a sound system JBL, and many computer (mac, iMacg5, iMacs intel, double proc g5, one pc,...). cheers Nathalie --------------------------------- _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071218/3135ecb0/attachment.html From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Fri Dec 21 23:31:04 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:31:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] proposal performance in Imal evening 16th february 2008 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <352198.43850.qm {a+} web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Thanks...all the links to material of Waag NL, Imal, as well as avatarbodycollision were of interest. I will be available (as far as I can see now) on Feb 16 if my taking part would be useful for Aether (any idea of material yet?) in the performance Natalie is presenting. Judy The League of Imaginary Scientists wrote:Re: [aether] proposal performance in Imal evening 16th february 2008 That is good news, and enough time to develop. Been thinking about the many internet ?jam sessions? coming into existence, from ?real? relationships born in second life to cross-continental music collaborations to realtime telematic interactions akin to aether. And these stem from the 1960s even, with Nam June Paik?s early telecommunications experimentation, 1970s a HOLE in SPACE (Galloway and Sherrie Rabinowitz), or even closer to Aether, ?Die Welt in 24 Stunden? ? 1982 project involving a global network of artists, and much, much more. Currently, so much in the ethersphere still relates ? a recent example: http://www.avatarbodycollision.org/about.html and http://upstage.org.nz/blog/?p=101 (related performance and possible venue for aether projects). Also this conference for the future: http://www.htmlles.net/2007/en been thinking about how the aether ?stream? has developed into a cohesive storytelling mechanism...with the addition of audio from the last performance a major step! Thought I?d just throw out...some questions. The introduction of an audio layer is great ? can we expand this to reflect AETHER, with audio layers as well, from various sound collaborators, ala http://www.ejamming.com/ ?? The realtime stream combined with realtime performance and mythology and physical artifacts for Remote Fairytales was especially layered ? is there interest in again having a ?real? realtime element that takes place on site and in coordination with the remote actors? (the live actor, the fairytale, the...) Along this line, one of the League?s general activities is the creation of (fake) artifacts, from our trips to the past, excursions to black holes, colonization of the sea, etc. - what about having physical components that exist alongside the digital narrative? For example, invented correspondence between Samuel Beckett and a noted astrophysicist regarding the nature of time...nonlinear vs. linear... Depending on what direction the narrative takes, I would be quite excited to compose some related ?science? with the league. OK, so as you can see, I?m back from Berlin and can finally breathe in the aether (overdose?)... - LUCY /the League On 12/18/07 6:17 AM, "fougeras nathalie" wrote: Hi all I have a great news for us.. i'm fixing a conference about streaming and network performance in this Centre of Multim?dia called Imal in Brussel: http://www.imal.org I 'm working with the repsonsable of this center and he is interested. So in the evening of the 16th february 2 performances can be presented, one of them can be an Aether performance because i integrate it then to this event.. Also i'm thinking about a scenario i shall like write for this event and play with you, i can tell you more later.. for info: iMAL is an industriel place 1920 with a bif room 20m x 20m, see here: http://www.imal.org/iMAL_opening/image/batiment/pano_inside_canal.jpg or flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/malicy or on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=imagicy also they have 4 videoproj of 3000 lumens, + 2 little, a sound system JBL, and many computer (mac, iMacg5, iMacs intel, double proc g5, one pc,...). cheers Nathalie --------------------------------- _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071221/faf6084d/attachment.html From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Sat Dec 22 13:30:17 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:30:17 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] Scenario i want propose - performance in Imal evening 16th february 2008 In-Reply-To: <352198.43850.qm {a+} web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <292028.20170.qm {a+} web26106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi Judy: yes, if you can make sounds the 16th february will be so nice.. and interesting in live. Listen voice and music with this minimal way i liked so much, i want to tell you more about that because i want propose a new scenario so i'll contact you about sounds.. So about this scenario i want propose i think about differents technical details for the interface: Manuel: i have some requests about this new scenario i 'm writing for 2 frames on the interface, i shall like have a write-screen? (en fran?ais : une "trame") en N&B qui seraient le miroir de 2 frames de 2 performers, so i thought about ascii cam filter to add this filter in 2 frames (see this link asccii cam opensource: http://ascii.dyne.org/), or a solution near of that.. tell me For other frames i shall like keep colours filter in the frames of the interface but change green by yellow and so have same three colours and also 2 frames in N&B : do you use a white filter or particular filter for the frame in middle (brussel performers during the ghost trio)? My last request is about the frame of the text: if we can include 2 lists of short sentences already write in this interface text online and 2 frames one of them will be with this 2 lists and other just a list of colour and one line empty (http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/video%20documentation/) Thanks Scenario: So yes i began to think to a stage in real and for the interface and to write a scenario for this evening performance in Imal. I want to show you soon, i had an appointment with Laure in Brussel in order to have a co-writing more precisely on the actions to write now. I come back soon. cheers Nathalie Judy Nylon a ?crit : Thanks...all the links to material of Waag NL, Imal, as well as avatarbodycollision were of interest. I will be available (as far as I can see now) on Feb 16 if my taking part would be useful for Aether (any idea of material yet?) in the performance Natalie is presenting. Judy The League of Imaginary Scientists wrote:Re: [aether] proposal performance in Imal evening 16th february 2008 That is good news, and enough time to develop. Been thinking about the many internet ?jam sessions? coming into existence, from ?real? relationships born in second life to cross-continental music collaborations to realtime telematic interactions akin to aether. And these stem from the 1960s even, with Nam June Paik?s early telecommunications experimentation, 1970s a HOLE in SPACE (Galloway and Sherrie Rabinowitz), or even closer to Aether, ?Die Welt in 24 Stunden? ? 1982 project involving a global network of artists, and much, much more. Currently, so much in the ethersphere still relates ? a recent example: http://www.avatarbodycollision.org/about.html and http://upstage.org.nz/blog/?p=101 (related performance and possible venue for aether projects). Also this conference for the future: http://www.htmlles.net/2007/en been thinking about how the aether ?stream? has developed into a cohesive storytelling mechanism...with the addition of audio from the last performance a major step! Thought I?d just throw out...some questions. The introduction of an audio layer is great ? can we expand this to reflect AETHER, with audio layers as well, from various sound collaborators, ala http://www.ejamming.com/ ?? The realtime stream combined with realtime performance and mythology and physical artifacts for Remote Fairytales was especially layered ? is there interest in again having a ?real? realtime element that takes place on site and in coordination with the remote actors? (the live actor, the fairytale, the...) Along this line, one of the League?s general activities is the creation of (fake) artifacts, from our trips to the past, excursions to black holes, colonization of the sea, etc. - what about having physical components that exist alongside the digital narrative? For example, invented correspondence between Samuel Beckett and a noted astrophysicist regarding the nature of time...nonlinear vs. linear... Depending on what direction the narrative takes, I would be quite excited to compose some related ?science? with the league. OK, so as you can see, I?m back from Berlin and can finally breathe in the aether (overdose?)... - LUCY /the League On 12/18/07 6:17 AM, "fougeras nathalie" wrote: Hi all I have a great news for us.. i'm fixing a conference about streaming and network performance in this Centre of Multim?dia called Imal in Brussel: http://www.imal.org I 'm working with the repsonsable of this center and he is interested. So in the evening of the 16th february 2 performances can be presented, one of them can be an Aether performance because i integrate it then to this event.. Also i'm thinking about a scenario i shall like write for this event and play with you, i can tell you more later.. for info: iMAL is an industriel place 1920 with a bif room 20m x 20m, see here: http://www.imal.org/iMAL_opening/image/batiment/pano_inside_canal.jpg or flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/malicy or on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=imagicy also they have 4 videoproj of 3000 lumens, + 2 little, a sound system JBL, and many computer (mac, iMacg5, iMacs intel, double proc g5, one pc,...). cheers Nathalie --------------------------------- _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071222/7803b2fc/attachment.html From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Sun Dec 23 02:46:38 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:46:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] Shanghai possibility & Imal evening 16th february 2008 In-Reply-To: <292028.20170.qm {a+} web26106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <733200.65406.qm {a+} web62305.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Great. I also want to forward this call for projects because I am unsure how to write a proposal like this (or lets say I have no experience with it being successful). It looks interesting, no? >Date: December 21, 2007 11:57:37 AM EST >Subject: Join 'Intrude: Art & Life 366' in Shanghai > >e-flux - http://e-flux.com > >December 13, 2007 > >Zendai Museum of Modern Art > > > > > >Join ?Intrude: Art & Life 366? >in Shanghai >http://www.intrude366.com > >Intrude: Art & Life 366 is an unprecedented event in the city of Shanghai. Starting on January 1st 2008 and ending on December 31st 2008, the Zendai Museum of Modern Art (Zendai MoMA) will present a cultural event to the people of Shanghai every single day of the year. This cross-cultural and interdisciplinary project is called Intrude: Art & Life 366 and aims to intervene in people?s daily lifes, engage them to take part in art happenings and stimulate the public debate on art. An event of this scale and influence has never taken place in China before. > >Curated by the director of the Zendai MoMA, Mr. Shen Qibin, Intrude: Art & Life 366 is a interdisciplinary project that connects culture and daily life in many forms and through different media. With a total of 366 events happening throughout the year, the events will be very diverse and will come from different cultural fields -- exhibitions, site-specific installations, performances, concerts, film screenings, debates, etc. In order to present their work differently, artists will explore new concepts and venture out into the public sphere. > >Intrude: Art & Life 366 will present 366 different cultural events, taking place in public and private venues like parks, gardens, squares, shopping areas, etc. 100 Chinese and 266 international artists will participate, including local and internationally well-known artists and curators like Gu Wenda, Wang Jianwei, Yang Fudong, Xu Zhen, etc. There will also be collaborations with local and foreign institutions like the National Acadamy of Art in Hangzhou, the Centre for Contemporary Art & Politics, College of Fine Arts University of New South Wales in Australia, Institut pour la Ville-en-Mouvement in Paris etc. > >Intrude: Art & Life 366 was created as a long-term project, continuing beyond the 366 days of events. All of the events will be methodically archived and will be presented in the future as international touring exhibitions. In addition, Zendai MoMA will regularly publish catalogues with scholarly essays on the projects and related ideas and issues, and magazines to inform people on the progress of the project. > >How to participate - Zendai MoMA is inviting artists, galleries, museums, curators and performers to participate in this remarkable and ambitious project. Because of the interdisciplinary nature of this project, artists active in different fields (visual arts, music, theatre, dance, etc.) and people from different backgrounds (writers, actors, philosophers, architects etc.) can submit proposals by filling out a proposal form and sending it to Zendai MoMA?s Intrude project team. All works that can be realized in different public or private spaces in Shanghai are welcomed. To download the proposal form please visit http://www.intrude366.com or write to intrude366proposals at [nospam] gmail.com > > >ABOUT Zendai MoMA - Founded in 2005 and located in Pudong New Area in Shanghai, Zendai MoMA exhibits and collects innovative contemporary art from China and around the world. Zendai MoMA?s diverse program covers a broad spectrum of cultural activities, including film screenings, talks and educational events, theatre and music performances, and exhibiting visual and new media arts. The museum facilities include 4 galleries, a classroom, a gift shop/bookshop and a caf?. Covering 3000m2, and located in one of the fastest-developing areas of Shanghai, Zendai MoMA functions as a bridge between the local and international community, connecting both to the world of arts. > >For more info contact Liz Coppens, Project Coordinator (Curatorial Department) at liz.coppens at [nospam] gmail.com or visit http://www.zendaiart.com Judy fougeras nathalie wrote: Hi Judy: yes, if you can make sounds the 16th february will be so nice.. and interesting in live. Listen voice and music with this minimal way i liked so much, i want to tell you more about that because i want propose a new scenario so i'll contact you about sounds.. So about this scenario i want propose i think about differents technical details for the interface: Manuel: i have some requests about this new scenario i 'm writing for 2 frames on the interface, i shall like have a write-screen? (en fran?ais : une "trame") en N&B qui seraient le miroir de 2 frames de 2 performers, so i thought about ascii cam filter to add this filter in 2 frames (see this link asccii cam opensource: http://ascii.dyne.org/), or a solution near of that.. tell me For other frames i shall like keep colours filter in the frames of the interface but change green by yellow and so have same three colours and also 2 frames in N&B : do you use a white filter or particular filter for the frame in middle (brussel performers during the ghost trio)? My last request is about the frame of the text: if we can include 2 lists of short sentences already write in this interface text online and 2 frames one of them will be with this 2 lists and other just a list of colour and one line empty (http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/video%20documentation/) Thanks Scenario: So yes i began to think to a stage in real and for the interface and to write a scenario for this evening performance in Imal. I want to show you soon, i had an appointment with Laure in Brussel in order to have a co-writing more precisely on the actions to write now. I come back soon. cheers Nathalie Judy Nylon a ?crit : Thanks...all the links to material of Waag NL, Imal, as well as avatarbodycollision were of interest. I will be available (as far as I can see now) on Feb 16 if my taking part would be useful for Aether (any idea of material yet?) in the performance Natalie is presenting. Judy The League of Imaginary Scientists wrote:Re: [aether] proposal performance in Imal evening 16th february 2008 That is good news, and enough time to develop. Been thinking about the many internet ?jam sessions? coming into existence, from ?real? relationships born in second life to cross-continental music collaborations to realtime telematic interactions akin to aether. And these stem from the 1960s even, with Nam June Paik?s early telecommunications experimentation, 1970s a HOLE in SPACE (Galloway and Sherrie Rabinowitz), or even closer to Aether, ?Die Welt in 24 Stunden? ? 1982 project involving a global network of artists, and much, much more. Currently, so much in the ethersphere still relates ? a recent example: http://www.avatarbodycollision.org/about.html and http://upstage.org.nz/blog/?p=101 (related performance and possible venue for aether projects). Also this conference for the future: http://www.htmlles.net/2007/en been thinking about how the aether ?stream? has developed into a cohesive storytelling mechanism...with the addition of audio from the last performance a major step! Thought I?d just throw out...some questions. The introduction of an audio layer is great ? can we expand this to reflect AETHER, with audio layers as well, from various sound collaborators, ala http://www.ejamming.com/ ?? The realtime stream combined with realtime performance and mythology and physical artifacts for Remote Fairytales was especially layered ? is there interest in again having a ?real? realtime element that takes place on site and in coordination with the remote actors? (the live actor, the fairytale, the...) Along this line, one of the League?s general activities is the creation of (fake) artifacts, from our trips to the past, excursions to black holes, colonization of the sea, etc. - what about having physical components that exist alongside the digital narrative? For example, invented correspondence between Samuel Beckett and a noted astrophysicist regarding the nature of time...nonlinear vs. linear... Depending on what direction the narrative takes, I would be quite excited to compose some related ?science? with the league. OK, so as you can see, I?m back from Berlin and can finally breathe in the aether (overdose?)... - LUCY /the League On 12/18/07 6:17 AM, "fougeras nathalie" wrote: Hi all I have a great news for us.. i'm fixing a conference about streaming and network performance in this Centre of Multim?dia called Imal in Brussel: http://www.imal.org I 'm working with the repsonsable of this center and he is interested. So in the evening of the 16th february 2 performances can be presented, one of them can be an Aether performance because i integrate it then to this event.. Also i'm thinking about a scenario i shall like write for this event and play with you, i can tell you more later.. for info: iMAL is an industriel place 1920 with a bif room 20m x 20m, see here: http://www.imal.org/iMAL_opening/image/batiment/pano_inside_canal.jpg or flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/malicy or on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=imagicy also they have 4 videoproj of 3000 lumens, + 2 little, a sound system JBL, and many computer (mac, iMacg5, iMacs intel, double proc g5, one pc,...). cheers Nathalie --------------------------------- _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071222/8a27d838/attachment.html From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Mon Dec 24 13:34:07 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:34:07 +0100 Subject: [aether] archive = power In-Reply-To: <733200.65406.qm {a+} web62305.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <733200.65406.qm {a+} web62305.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <476FA73F.7070904 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Yeah right, well, the "stool" parts of the last performance is uploaded and well on http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/video_documentation/ Well it's christmas, be brave it will pass, Boris From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Mon Dec 24 15:54:09 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:54:09 +0100 Subject: [aether] archive = power In-Reply-To: <476FA73F.7070904 {a+} n3krozoft.com> References: <733200.65406.qm {a+} web62305.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <476FA73F.7070904 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <95c795f70712240654t278b5fdfqd768275b1ca03003 {a+} mail.gmail.com> hi all i didn't write yet to the list, but i have the video from novi sad. nenad burned it on a dvd for us already the next day. while others were watching the movies on the last evening of the festival, he was copying the recordings from the camera into the computer to make the dvd for us. only i haven't had time yet even to look at it. but hopefully i can use the xmas time to create a small version and upload it for you. i will also copy the dvd and send it to manu (manu, can you send me your postal address?). or should i send it to someone else? it was really nice to be in Novi Sad. on sunday there was a big lunch for every one. the video programm was very nice to watch. Novi Sad is not so close to my village as i thought, but it was worth the 8 hours drive with the car. if i find time i will send some photos for the aether 9 archive. the batteries of my camera went completely flat the moment we started the performance, but i have some photos of the environment before and after. so much for now, see you cym On Dec 24, 2007 1:34 PM, bk wrote: > Yeah right, well, the "stool" parts of the last performance is uploaded > and well on > http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/video_documentation/ > > Well it's christmas, be brave it will pass, > Boris > > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Wed Dec 26 18:48:31 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:48:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] Call for entry that must be fronted by Latin American artist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <18655.2756.qm {a+} web62306.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Paula V?lez Bravo wrote:Hi Paula.....This one just came to my attention: premio a las artes faena art district, buenos aires call for entries prize for the arts new projects in all media open to all latin american artists jury prizes ($30,000, $16,000) LEA Laboratorio de experimentacion artistica deadline 15 feb 08 www.lea-fgroup.com The site is also in English and the location looks new and well endowed. All Best, Judy --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071226/eeea8136/attachment.html From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Fri Dec 28 23:33:38 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:33:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [aether] archive = power In-Reply-To: <95c795f70712240654t278b5fdfqd768275b1ca03003 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <669595.14539.qm {a+} web62301.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I have now loaded the MP3 of the performance (sound originated in NYC only) up into the archive it is 'Ghost Trio 12-15-07 final performance MP3'. Jonathan clipped off the one vocal stumble where I started to say feeted instead of seated figure; it is now repaired so that we can reassemble to have the whole with the visuals and Luca's live sound. This may be useful to to curators etc. Continuing the theme of archive= power. I think it is important to put together credits that reflect exactly who did what 1) because years later this is the basis of understanding & recreating the production. 2) credit where credit is due is part of the transparency of process.3) this allows all of us to write understanding what skill sets we have to play with at any given time. For our part here in NYC. I did a 'vocal performance', the character (v), who is one of 3 performances the constitute 'Ghost Trio". I did all foley sound (knocks and window opening... live) as well as selecting of sound samples of the creaking door and rain . Jonathan did all sound mixing and live broadcast. The sound design of what we were going to do, we planned together. Somewhere I saw that Cris Cruz sent along a picture of the room he was working from. This is also a great idea; We should keep a file of jpegs of the rooms from which we work. I'm attaching one. Yes, its a tenement building from 1840 with a bathtub in the kitchen! well...Happy New Year...here comes 2008.....Judy cym net wrote: hi all i didn't write yet to the list, but i have the video from novi sad. nenad burned it on a dvd for us already the next day. while others were watching the movies on the last evening of the festival, he was copying the recordings from the camera into the computer to make the dvd for us. only i haven't had time yet even to look at it. but hopefully i can use the xmas time to create a small version and upload it for you. i will also copy the dvd and send it to manu (manu, can you send me your postal address?). or should i send it to someone else? it was really nice to be in Novi Sad. on sunday there was a big lunch for every one. the video programm was very nice to watch. Novi Sad is not so close to my village as i thought, but it was worth the 8 hours drive with the car. if i find time i will send some photos for the aether 9 archive. the batteries of my camera went completely flat the moment we started the performance, but i have some photos of the environment before and after. so much for now, see you cym On Dec 24, 2007 1:34 PM, bk wrote: > Yeah right, well, the "stool" parts of the last performance is uploaded > and well on > http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/video_documentation/ > > Well it's christmas, be brave it will pass, > Boris > > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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H A P P Y N E W Y E A R 2 0 0 8 love, B O R I S From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Mon Dec 31 23:31:26 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1-1904) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:31:26 +0100 Subject: [aether] last transmission of the year Message-ID: hi aethernauts, last transmission before the end of 2k7! -TOPIC:VIDEO_MONTAGE. - i'm currently re-editing/re-assembling the video captures of the ghost-trio performance, using the full recording by chris as a timing reference, and mapping on it the videos in higher resolution that were recorded at some locations (geneva and brussels), as well as judy's orginial sound. - paula and nathalie, did you record your own video part with the max patch? in this case please upload the file to the ~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad directory -TOPIC:ARCHIVE+BUDGET this is a list of all the people who participated in the performance + their roles (as far as i know, please correct if i forgot anything): * Yorba Linda, upper frame (#2) Christiaan Cruz: video, acting * NYC, sound Judy Nylon: audio Jonathan Goldstein: audio * Brussels, middle frame (#5) Laure de Selys: concept, directing Boris Kish: directing Richard Milan: actor Chlo? Cramer: concept, live text (frames #1 and #3) * Geneva, left frame (#4) Manuel Schmalstieg: html code, acting Anna Popek: assistance * Medellin, right frame (#6) Paula V?lez: directing Viviana Palacio: assistance Juan Guillermo Caicedo: acting (man, right frame) Pedro Hermelin: acting (kid) * Brussels, lower frames (#7-8-9) Nathalie Fougeras: video * Novi Sad luka princic: sound mix cym: presentation, setup + travel this brings us also to the question of how to determine the fees... we were discussing some months ago the possibility of a "credits" system, but we didn't came to a definitive working conclusion yet. the other option would be to attribute to each performance a given amount, for example 2000 CHF, which we then shared among the participants (in this case that's an average of 125 CHF). in this case, it could maybe make sense to have two "categories" of participants (to reflect the amount of time/energy involved): - "full participation" for people who took part intensively, in several rehearsals. - "partial participation" for people who weren't fully involved in several rehearsals, or had a comparably small task. Which, for the ghost-performance, would give this: *full participation (incl.rehearsals): Cym: presentation, setup + travel Paula V?lez: directing Chlo? Cramer: concept, live text Manuel Schmalstieg: html code, acting Boris Kish: directing Nathalie Fougeras: video Laure de Selys: concept, directing Richard Milan: acting Judy Nylon: audio Jonathan Goldstein: audio Christiaan Cruz: video, acting (11 ppl) *partial participation (no/few rehearsals): Luka Princic: sound mix Viviana Palacio: assistance Juan Guillermo Caicedo: acting Pedro Hermelin: acting Anna Popek: assistance (5 ppl) Please give some feedback of what you think about that options. Of course, it would be somehow cooler to develop our credit system, but while in theory it sounded nice, it doesnt seem to work so well with this one massive one-time grant. Maybe we can come up with a sort of hybrid system, where participants can either get paid cash or acquire an equal amount of "aether-shares"...? (see the etoy.SHARE system for a reference, but i never really understood the benefit of owning those shares...) as a reminder, for the participants in the Rotterdam performance (02.07.2007), there are still some funds that haven't been requested yet: Nathalie, Cym, Paula, Luka, Alejo (32,59 CHF / 20 credits each) Chris (48,89 CHF / 30 credits) some other mixed news: - TOPIC: Ghost-Trio-Feedback: Helen V.J. wrote after the Novi Sad performance: "i watched the show last weekend from new zealand, it was very interesting : ) i know a lot of beckett's work but actually was not familiar with ghost trio. his work is almost written for the web (we did come & go at the upstage festival)." Helen is btw the mastermind of AvatarBodyCollision and the http://upstage.org.nz/ project, which Lucy and some others already mentioned. Interesting, somehow similar but also quite different from our approach. Certainly worth of trying it out, there are "walkthroughs" for beginners announced on the website from time to time (or just contact her if you're interested). - TOPIC: PUREDATA. we talked with boris about exploring further the possibilities of using the aether system with (the open-source) PureData rather than max.. we also had the idea that, if necessary, we could use part of our budget to pay some skilled person to develop a cross-platform Upload-Download object for PD (similar to jit.uldl, but better...). however, this would make only sense if some of us start to become familiar with PD.. so as a start, in your free time time, download PureData http://puredata.info/downloads/ - and play around with some of these patches - http://1904.cc/~aether/kode/puredata_streaming/ - TOPIC: PERFORMANCE in April 08 at Mapping Festival. I'm going to submit aether for a performance at Mapping Festival in April 2008, between 10 and 20th April (for me between 15th and 20th will be best). That's where everything started... ;) I have the idea of proposing a collaboration with a music group playing experimental drone soundscapes (guitars + electronics + sometimes percussion), or as they describe it: "super modern country". so there would be a live music part.. i think this would fit well for this festival, and it's nice to try different settings. the band's name is Bliscappen Van Maria, their webpage: http://www.10111.org/bliscappenvanmaria/ they are of course good friends of me, and we worked sometimes together. they watched some aether9 performances, and are interested... we talked about having them appearing in one frame, as part of the storyline, but that's up for discussion still. let's maybe see first how the Brussels performance for February develops... good wishes to all of you, manuel