From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Mon Jun 4 18:27:36 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 09:27:36 -0700 Subject: [aether] more fun european calls for submissions Message-ID: 1. Luna Park Party deadline = ASAP send now SlovENIAROFhttp://www.artservis.org/izpis_dogodka.asp?hF=2120http://www.eniarof.com/sloveniarof/if we can get a rep who would be willing to fly to Maribor Slovenia for July 6 & 7for a workshop party (they say they will provide lodging transp & food)then we could do Aether9 for both Luna Park & Berkeley on 07/07/07!If someone can go, they should submit an application with the Aether9project ASAP. They only have 10 spots left. Most of the filled spots areby French artists I think. Stanley Douglas Edric http://www.abstractmachine.net/blog/ will run the workshop. I wish I could go but I have commitments here in the US.Though I will still be participating remotely in the performance we do this month & 07/07/072. (im)mortal love deadline for sending applications (end of June 2007)exhibition in Warsaw (October-November 2007)conference/panel discussion (November 2007)publication (Winter 2007/8)http://www.supermarketsztuki.art.pl/biennial.htmAether9 love story? Instant Messaging.If we get accepted i'm thinking of doing love & IM images with instant noodles-christiaan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070604/0c81cb8c/attachment.html From cym at cym.net Mon Jun 4 19:13:07 2007 From: cym at cym.net (cym) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 13:13:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [aether] more fun european calls for submissions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, christiaan cruz wrote: > > 1. Luna Park Party deadline = ASAP send now SlovENIAROFhttp://www.artservis.org/izpis_dogodka.asp?hF=2120http://www.eniarof.com/sloveniarof/ if we can get a rep who would be willing to fly to Maribor Slovenia for July 6 & 7for a workshop party hello all, i can be in maribor, no problem. it is about 1 hour drive from my place. also i am passing there almost every week on the way to ljubljana and on the way back to austria, so if you need anything from maribor i can just stop there and pass by pekarna. there is a map on the wd8 website so you can see where i am: http://wd8.org/information/region.php?lang=eng and i made a virtual reconstruction of pekarna, the complex, years ago. it was presented during the international festival of computer arts in maribor in 2001. maybe i could put it to live again for this happening. greetings, cym (they say they will provide lodging transp & food)then we could do Aether9 for both Luna Park & Berkeley on 07/07/07!If someone can go, they should submit an application with the Aether9project ASAP. They only have 10 spots left. Most of the filled spots areby French artists I think. Stanley Douglas Edric http://www.abstractmachine.net/blog/ will run the workshop. I wish I could go but I have commitments here in the US.Though I will still be participating remotely in the performance we do this month & 07/07/072. (im)mortal love deadline for sending applications (end of June 2007)exhibition in Warsaw (October-November 2007)conference/panel discussion (November 2007)publication (Winter 2007/8)http://www.supermarketsztuki.art.pl/biennial.htmAether9 love story? Instant Messaging.If we get accepted i'm thinking of doing love & IM images with instant noodles-christiaan From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Wed Jun 6 16:50:10 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:50:10 +0200 Subject: [aether] remote fairytales - performance invitation Message-ID: <4666C9A2.4090006 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Dear aethernauts the next performance of the aether9 group will be on Thursday 14th of june, online and in brussels at 7 PM in europe = 10 AM california = noon in colombia in an audience packed gallery in the center of Brussels (n3krozoft Ltd will occupy this space for 3 days (see the attached flyer). the performance and the exhibit is called "remote fairytales, contes lontains, fabel op afstand" (last expression is flemmish - brussels is bilingual french/flemish. flemish is very very close to dutch). the idea for this performance: 1) on location in brussels, next to the screen, there will be 2 persons on stage: - Deirdre Foster (she is a storyteller and actress from Geneva) - she will tell her version on the classical tale (from the Grimm brothers) "La jeune fille sans mains" (The girl without hands --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Without_Hands). - Me, Boris, i will be conferencing the audience about the reunion of an important group of patchers (i'm almost over writing this conference-like text extrapolating from my aether9 experience!) we will intermingle our texts and form a strange dialogue. our idea is that Deirdre & I will be quite confused about what is going on: i will begin my conference by adressing myself to the audience in a similar way and setting (chair, table, lamp) than academic conferences are usually given, with the intention of informing he audience. Deirdre, dressed in a ... fancy way, will then "interrupt me" and start telling her tale, with the intention of enchanting her audience. I will react by answering to her, in my conference mode, but with the intention of understanding what Deirdre is doing here. Deirdre will continue her tale, with the intention of unveiling the question: what am i doing in a digital-media performance? i thought i was in a storyteller convention! etc. and our dialogue will go on according to what happens between us two, the audience and aether9 screens, but we will always stick more or less to the stories we wrote. 2) remote aether9 part: in parralel to the stage action, aether9 remote action will flow on the screen (maybe 2 screens). we didn't develop any script yet. but we want to. the script will integrate formal and narrative elements related to the stage action. sometimes the stage action will be on standby for the screen action to take all the attention. in these moments, formal elements of aether9 will prevail. when the stage action will be running, the narrative elements of aether9 wil prevail, providing a visual tale. i guess that there will be an irc channel for aether9 with somebody in brussels giving cues for actions. our texts are in french and should be translated to some extent in english for everybody to grasp the stories... well for Deirdre's tale, the basis is on the net and for mine i'll adress this later today. we wish that all remote performers have a common "neutral" set , for instance something simple like : a table with a chair, a neutral wall, a picture on the wall, a book and paper + pen or typemachine on the table. this in order to avoid total randomness of the visual aspect and confusion for the viewers (online especially), in order to have some unity. not all performers would be perorming at the same time, and it would be good to have a common neutral state in a way. 3) sound - there will be some sound environnment in the brussel performance. somebody will be in charge of the sound diffusion. we are not thinking of stremaing the sound for the moment. - we would like to invite you to upload some sound files on aether at artslashmedia.ftp server in the >web >"sounds_remote_fairytales" folder - please view D. Lynch "rabbit" project for interesting sound treatment (in our view...) --> here are 2 videos: http://www.bzzp.biz/temp/ (1st episode: full first episode, 10min fragment: 2 min extract) - you could also record yourselves saying short sentences (cf. lynch again). 4) rehearsals - on the 13th of june, one day before the performance, we should do a videocheck to see how everything is running in the gallery (at the same time scheduled for the next day's performance.) - this friday (8th of june), we would like to do a jam session. this session will adress technical problems (the aether9 system was working well on the "electronic caf? international" session of the 10th of may. since manuel has been working more on the patch and we need to test the latest versions. we will also write some script with formal elements to test how it goes. for instance: - the table setting described before - make a cross between the 9 screens - 2 persons making phone calls at the same time etc. ---------------------------------- so, who will participate in this landmark performance? - to my knowledge, the following aethernauts said that in principle they are ready to take part: Nathalie from paris, Audrey from holland, Paula from medellin, cym from walkendorf, Chris from yorba linda - california. i guess that a group from geneva will do a part too. - Dr. Gomez & the league? - Rhys from australia? (i heard that he would use puppets - that would be good - performance time in au. would be early early in the morning.) - Johan from berlin? - Milena from the brazil group? - Laure form the Kingdom of belgium? -- so we need to know asap: who will be there for the jam session this friday who wishes to take part in the "remote fairytales" perfomance on the 14th of june (and, if possible, the rehearsal on the 13th of june). all ideas, suggestion, disagreements etc. welcome and awaited!!! i love this team! looking forward, Boris From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Wed Jun 6 16:50:39 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:50:39 +0200 Subject: [aether] remote fairytales - performance invitation Message-ID: <4666C9BF.4000009 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Dear aethernauts the next performance of the aether9 group will be on Thursday 14th of june, online and in brussels at 7 PM in europe = 10 AM california = noon in colombia in an audience packed gallery in the center of Brussels (n3krozoft Ltd will occupy this space for 3 days (see the attached flyer). the performance and the exhibit is called "remote fairytales, contes lontains, fabel op afstand" (last expression is flemmish - brussels is bilingual french/flemish. flemish is very very close to dutch). the idea for this performance: 1) on location in brussels, next to the screen, there will be 2 persons on stage: - Deirdre Foster (she is a storyteller and actress from Geneva) - she will tell her version on the classical tale (from the Grimm brothers) "La jeune fille sans mains" (The girl without hands --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Without_Hands). - Me, Boris, i will be conferencing the audience about the reunion of an important group of patchers (i'm almost over writing this conference-like text extrapolating from my aether9 experience!) we will intermingle our texts and form a strange dialogue. our idea is that Deirdre & I will be quite confused about what is going on: i will begin my conference by adressing myself to the audience in a similar way and setting (chair, table, lamp) than academic conferences are usually given, with the intention of informing he audience. Deirdre, dressed in a ... fancy way, will then "interrupt me" and start telling her tale, with the intention of enchanting her audience. I will react by answering to her, in my conference mode, but with the intention of understanding what Deirdre is doing here. Deirdre will continue her tale, with the intention of unveiling the question: what am i doing in a digital-media performance? i thought i was in a storyteller convention! etc. and our dialogue will go on according to what happens between us two, the audience and aether9 screens, but we will always stick more or less to the stories we wrote. 2) remote aether9 part: in parralel to the stage action, aether9 remote action will flow on the screen (maybe 2 screens). we didn't develop any script yet. but we want to. the script will integrate formal and narrative elements related to the stage action. sometimes the stage action will be on standby for the screen action to take all the attention. in these moments, formal elements of aether9 will prevail. when the stage action will be running, the narrative elements of aether9 wil prevail, providing a visual tale. i guess that there will be an irc channel for aether9 with somebody in brussels giving cues for actions. our texts are in french and should be translated to some extent in english for everybody to grasp the stories... well for Deirdre's tale, the basis is on the net and for mine i'll adress this later today. we wish that all remote performers have a common "neutral" set , for instance something simple like : a table with a chair, a neutral wall, a picture on the wall, a book and paper + pen or typemachine on the table. this in order to avoid total randomness of the visual aspect and confusion for the viewers (online especially), in order to have some unity. not all performers would be perorming at the same time, and it would be good to have a common neutral state in a way. 3) sound - there will be some sound environnment in the brussel performance. somebody will be in charge of the sound diffusion. we are not thinking of stremaing the sound for the moment. - we would like to invite you to upload some sound files on aether at artslashmedia.ftp server in the >web >"sounds_remote_fairytales" folder - please view D. Lynch "rabbit" project for interesting sound treatment (in our view...) --> here are 2 videos: http://www.bzzp.biz/temp/ (1st episode: full first episode, 10min fragment: 2 min extract) - you could also record yourselves saying short sentences (cf. lynch again). 4) rehearsals - on the 13th of june, one day before the performance, we should do a videocheck to see how everything is running in the gallery (at the same time scheduled for the next day's performance.) - this friday (8th of june), we would like to do a jam session. this session will adress technical problems (the aether9 system was working well on the "electronic caf? international" session of the 10th of may. since manuel has been working more on the patch and we need to test the latest versions. we will also write some script with formal elements to test how it goes. for instance: - the table setting described before - make a cross between the 9 screens - 2 persons making phone calls at the same time etc. ---------------------------------- so, who will participate in this landmark performance? - to my knowledge, the following aethernauts said that in principle they are ready to take part: Nathalie from paris, Audrey from holland, Paula from medellin, cym from walkendorf, Chris from yorba linda - california. i guess that a group from geneva will do a part too. - Dr. Gomez & the league? - Rhys from australia? (i heard that he would use puppets - that would be good - performance time in au. would be early early in the morning.) - Johan from berlin? - Milena from the brazil group? - Laure form the Kingdom of belgium? -- so we need to know asap: who will be there for the jam session this friday who wishes to take part in the "remote fairytales" perfomance on the 14th of june (and, if possible, the rehearsal on the 13th of june). all ideas, suggestion, disagreements etc. welcome and awaited!!! i love this team! looking forward, Boris -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: recto_preview.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 185916 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070606/f41d4b68/attachment.jpg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: verso_preview.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 64173 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070606/f41d4b68/attachment-0001.jpg From fosterdeirdre at [nospam] hotmail.com Wed Jun 6 17:14:02 2007 From: fosterdeirdre at [nospam] hotmail.com (Deirdre Foster) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:14:02 +0200 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: # # ? Comment voulez vous gouverner un pays o? il existe 258 vari?t?s de fromage ? ? Le 6.6.2007 16:54, ??aether-request at [nospam] 1904.cc?? a ?crit?: > Send aether mailing list submissions to > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > aether-request at [nospam] 1904.cc > > You can reach the person managing the list at > aether-owner at [nospam] 1904.cc > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of aether digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. remote fairytales - performance invitation (bk) > 2. remote fairytales - performance invitation (bk) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:50:10 +0200 > From: bk > Subject: [aether] remote fairytales - performance invitation > To: aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > Message-ID: <4666C9A2.4090006 at [nospam] n3krozoft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Dear aethernauts > > the next performance of the aether9 group will be on Thursday 14th of > june, online and in brussels > at 7 PM in europe = 10 AM california = noon in colombia > in an audience packed gallery in the center of Brussels (n3krozoft Ltd > will occupy this space for 3 days (see the attached flyer). the > performance and the exhibit is called > "remote fairytales, contes lontains, fabel op afstand" > (last expression is flemmish - brussels is bilingual french/flemish. > flemish is very very close to dutch). > > the idea for this performance: > > 1) on location in brussels, next to the screen, there will be 2 persons > on stage: > - Deirdre Foster (she is a storyteller and actress from Geneva) - she > will tell her version on the classical tale (from the Grimm brothers) > "La jeune fille sans mains" (The girl without hands --> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Without_Hands). > - Me, Boris, i will be conferencing the audience about the reunion of an > important group of patchers (i'm almost over writing this > conference-like text extrapolating from my aether9 experience!) > we will intermingle our texts and form a strange dialogue. > our idea is that Deirdre & I will be quite confused about what is going > on: i will begin my conference by adressing myself to the audience in a > similar way and setting (chair, table, lamp) than academic conferences > are usually given, with the intention of informing he audience. Deirdre, > dressed in a ... fancy way, will then "interrupt me" and start telling > her tale, with the intention of enchanting her audience. I will react by > answering to her, in my conference mode, but with the intention of > understanding what Deirdre is doing here. Deirdre will continue her > tale, with the intention of unveiling the question: what am i doing in a > digital-media performance? i thought i was in a storyteller convention! > etc. and our dialogue will go on according to what happens between us > two, the audience and aether9 screens, but we will always stick more or > less to the stories we wrote. > > > 2) remote aether9 part: > in parralel to the stage action, aether9 remote action will flow on the > screen (maybe 2 screens). > we didn't develop any script yet. but we want to. > the script will integrate formal and narrative elements related to the > stage action. > sometimes the stage action will be on standby for the screen action to > take all the attention. in these moments, formal elements of aether9 > will prevail. > when the stage action will be running, the narrative elements of aether9 > wil prevail, providing a visual tale. > i guess that there will be an irc channel for aether9 with somebody in > brussels giving cues for actions. > our texts are in french and should be translated to some extent in > english for everybody to grasp the stories... well for Deirdre's tale, > the basis is on the net and for mine i'll adress this later today. > we wish that all remote performers have a common "neutral" set , for > instance something simple like : a table with a chair, a neutral wall, a > picture on the wall, a book and paper + pen or typemachine on the table. > this in order to avoid total randomness of the visual aspect and > confusion for the viewers (online especially), in order to have some unity. > not all performers would be perorming at the same time, and it would be > good to have a common neutral state in a way. > > 3) sound > - there will be some sound environnment in the brussel performance. > somebody will be in charge of the sound diffusion. > we are not thinking of stremaing the sound for the moment. > - we would like to invite you to upload some sound files on > aether at artslashmedia.ftp server in the >web >"sounds_remote_fairytales" > folder > - please view D. Lynch "rabbit" project for interesting sound treatment > (in our view...) > --> here are 2 videos: > http://www.bzzp.biz/temp/ > (1st episode: full first episode, 10min > fragment: 2 min extract) > - you could also record yourselves saying short sentences (cf. lynch again). > > > 4) rehearsals > - on the 13th of june, one day before the performance, we should do a > videocheck to see how everything is running in the gallery (at the same > time scheduled for the next day's performance.) > - this friday (8th of june), we would like to do a jam session. > this session will adress technical problems (the aether9 system was > working well on the "electronic caf? international" session of the 10th > of may. > since manuel has been working more on the patch and we need to test the > latest versions. > we will also write some script with formal elements to test how it goes. > for instance: > - the table setting described before > - make a cross between the 9 screens > - 2 persons making phone calls at the same time > etc. > > > ---------------------------------- > > so, > who will participate in this landmark performance? > - to my knowledge, the following aethernauts said that in principle they > are ready to take part: > Nathalie from paris, Audrey from holland, Paula from medellin, cym from > walkendorf, Chris from yorba linda - california. > i guess that a group from geneva will do a part too. > - Dr. Gomez & the league? > - Rhys from australia? (i heard that he would use puppets - that would > be good - performance time in au. would be early early in the morning.) > - Johan from berlin? > - Milena from the brazil group? > - Laure form the Kingdom of belgium? From cym at cym.net Wed Jun 6 23:55:09 2007 From: cym at cym.net (cym) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [aether] remote fairytales - performance invitation In-Reply-To: <4666C9A2.4090006 {a+} n3krozoft.com> References: <4666C9A2.4090006 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: hello, i'll be there. this friday just with a minimal setup. Wednesday and Thursday i can prepare the room how you would like it, with table, chair, etc. and send you remote images from walkersdorf. see you! cym On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, bk wrote: > > > Dear aethernauts > > the next performance of the aether9 group will be on Thursday 14th of > june, online and in brussels > at 7 PM in europe = 10 AM california = noon in colombia > in an audience packed gallery in the center of Brussels (n3krozoft Ltd > will occupy this space for 3 days (see the attached flyer). the > performance and the exhibit is called > "remote fairytales, contes lontains, fabel op afstand" > (last expression is flemmish - brussels is bilingual french/flemish. > flemish is very very close to dutch). > > the idea for this performance: > > 1) on location in brussels, next to the screen, there will be 2 persons > on stage: > - Deirdre Foster (she is a storyteller and actress from Geneva) - she > will tell her version on the classical tale (from the Grimm brothers) > "La jeune fille sans mains" (The girl without hands --> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Without_Hands). > - Me, Boris, i will be conferencing the audience about the reunion of an > important group of patchers (i'm almost over writing this > conference-like text extrapolating from my aether9 experience!) > we will intermingle our texts and form a strange dialogue. > our idea is that Deirdre & I will be quite confused about what is going > on: i will begin my conference by adressing myself to the audience in a > similar way and setting (chair, table, lamp) than academic conferences > are usually given, with the intention of informing he audience. Deirdre, > dressed in a ... fancy way, will then "interrupt me" and start telling > her tale, with the intention of enchanting her audience. I will react by > answering to her, in my conference mode, but with the intention of > understanding what Deirdre is doing here. Deirdre will continue her > tale, with the intention of unveiling the question: what am i doing in a > digital-media performance? i thought i was in a storyteller convention! > etc. and our dialogue will go on according to what happens between us > two, the audience and aether9 screens, but we will always stick more or > less to the stories we wrote. > > > 2) remote aether9 part: > in parralel to the stage action, aether9 remote action will flow on the > screen (maybe 2 screens). > we didn't develop any script yet. but we want to. > the script will integrate formal and narrative elements related to the > stage action. > sometimes the stage action will be on standby for the screen action to > take all the attention. in these moments, formal elements of aether9 > will prevail. > when the stage action will be running, the narrative elements of aether9 > wil prevail, providing a visual tale. > i guess that there will be an irc channel for aether9 with somebody in > brussels giving cues for actions. > our texts are in french and should be translated to some extent in > english for everybody to grasp the stories... well for Deirdre's tale, > the basis is on the net and for mine i'll adress this later today. > we wish that all remote performers have a common "neutral" set , for > instance something simple like : a table with a chair, a neutral wall, a > picture on the wall, a book and paper + pen or typemachine on the table. > this in order to avoid total randomness of the visual aspect and > confusion for the viewers (online especially), in order to have some unity. > not all performers would be perorming at the same time, and it would be > good to have a common neutral state in a way. > > 3) sound > - there will be some sound environnment in the brussel performance. > somebody will be in charge of the sound diffusion. > we are not thinking of stremaing the sound for the moment. > - we would like to invite you to upload some sound files on > aether at artslashmedia.ftp server in the >web >"sounds_remote_fairytales" > folder > - please view D. Lynch "rabbit" project for interesting sound treatment > (in our view...) > --> here are 2 videos: > http://www.bzzp.biz/temp/ > (1st episode: full first episode, 10min > fragment: 2 min extract) > - you could also record yourselves saying short sentences (cf. lynch again). > > > 4) rehearsals > - on the 13th of june, one day before the performance, we should do a > videocheck to see how everything is running in the gallery (at the same > time scheduled for the next day's performance.) > - this friday (8th of june), we would like to do a jam session. > this session will adress technical problems (the aether9 system was > working well on the "electronic caf? international" session of the 10th > of may. > since manuel has been working more on the patch and we need to test the > latest versions. > we will also write some script with formal elements to test how it goes. > for instance: > - the table setting described before > - make a cross between the 9 screens > - 2 persons making phone calls at the same time > etc. > > > ---------------------------------- > > so, > who will participate in this landmark performance? > - to my knowledge, the following aethernauts said that in principle they > are ready to take part: > Nathalie from paris, Audrey from holland, Paula from medellin, cym from > walkendorf, Chris from yorba linda - california. > i guess that a group from geneva will do a part too. > - Dr. Gomez & the league? > - Rhys from australia? (i heard that he would use puppets - that would > be good - performance time in au. would be early early in the morning.) > - Johan from berlin? > - Milena from the brazil group? > - Laure form the Kingdom of belgium? > > -- > so we need to know asap: > who will be there for the jam session this friday > who wishes to take part in the "remote fairytales" perfomance on the > 14th of june (and, if possible, the rehearsal on the 13th of june). > > all ideas, suggestion, disagreements etc. welcome and awaited!!! > i love this team! > looking forward, > Boris > > > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Thu Jun 7 02:22:52 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:22:52 +0200 Subject: [aether] endless shores Message-ID: <46674FDC.40306 {a+} n3krozoft.com> hello, please find attached to this mail the last version of the text i wrote for the brussels performance, for you to have an idea. i attach it in french and i attach it in english (it's an automatic translation from altavista website. so it's indicative and it's quite funny (for me at least...)) -- a little more informations: in brussels there will be 4 persons involved in the performance: Deirdre Foster (storyteller & actress) Chlo? Cramer (she graduate from film school last year) Manuel & Boris there is still some confusion & disagreements between us about what is going to happen on stage and online. developpments to come -- at this moment, cym & nathalie confirmed their participation for the 14th of june performance. cym will also be online on friday's "jam session". Good day, good night, Boris -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Ladies and gentlemen.doc Type: application/msword Size: 64512 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070607/5a1e1982/attachment.doc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(would be nice to try this all at the same time). --- server list. 08.06.2007 1 | 2 | 3 4 | 5 | 6 7 | 8 | 9 Frame 1 - http://1904.cc/~aether/1 Frame 2 - http://1904.cc/~aether/2/ Frame 3 - http://10111.org/~aether/0/ Frame 4 - http://10111.org/~aether/1/ Frame 5 - http://artslashmedia.net/~aether/5/ Frame 6 - http://aether.front.ru/6/ Frame 7 - http://aether.front.ru/7/ Frame 8 - http://aether.smtp.ru/cym/ Frame 9 - http://aether.smtp.ru/9/ for ftp uploaders: username and password on each server are the same as usual. In each case the jpegs are now named 0x.jpg to 9x.jpg (except for cym, who uses arbitrarily frame 8. your jpg is named pw.jpg) the html interface will be available tomorrow, linked from 1904.cc/aether participants should announce on the list which frame they want to use. for maxers: use the latest patch: http://1904.cc/kode/upload_107.zip (22 k) or, if the new javaobjects aren't working, use this simplified version (without visual feedback; you'll visualise through the html interface) - http://1904.cc/kode/upload_109.zip (18 k) --- boris ps: i will gladly use frame no. 7! From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Thu Jun 7 22:26:42 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:26:42 +0200 Subject: [aether] 2 small corrections In-Reply-To: <46686372.5050303 {a+} n3krozoft.com> References: <46686372.5050303 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: hi, two small corrections: international synchronised time of the jam session: 9 PM in europe Noon in califonia 2 PM in colombia !!! 11 PM in moscow 2 AM in bangkok 4 AM in tokyo btw we chose always quite similar timeframes, we should change that someday.. (like: evening in california, deep night in europe, noon in japan...) and here is the actual server list (we gave you the http directories, which isn't so useful for uploading) server list - FTP directories. 08.06.2007 1 | 2 | 3 4 | 5 | 6 7 | 8 | 9 Frame 1 - ftp://1904.cc/1/ Frame 2 - ftp://1904.cc/2/ Frame 3 - ftp://10111.org/web/0/ Frame 4 - ftp://10111.org/web/1/ Frame 5 - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/5/ Frame 6 - ftp://ftp.front.ru/6/ Frame 7 - ftp://ftp.front.ru/7/ Frame 8 - ftp://ftp.smtp.ru/cym/ Frame 9 - ftp://ftp.smtp.ru/9/ ps: i think i'll take frame 6... pps: cym, if you feel like representing the aether group at the Maribor workshop, and set up a performance display there, go for it. i don't think i'll able to do the trip at that moment, but will be happy to participate remotely at this occasion. actually the n3krozoft group perfored at pekarna some years ago... you can find useful material for the application at http://www.1904.cc/aether/material/ all the best, see you hopefully tomorrow... manuel From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Thu Jun 7 22:45:20 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:45:20 +0200 Subject: [aether] IRC reminder In-Reply-To: References: <46686372.5050303 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: ppps: i suggest we communicate again through IRC during the test session tomorrow. reminder: *connect* to the irc.freenode.net _server_ and *join* the #aether9 _channel (most probably by typing /join #aether9 ) recommended IRC clients: multiplatform: chatzilla - http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/ for mac: http://colloquy.info/downloads.html for win + linux : http://www.xchat.org/ for mac: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xchataqua/ for linux (command line) : http://www.bitchx.org/ (though server is down/construction) !x! m From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Thu Jun 7 23:22:19 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:22:19 +0200 Subject: [aether] quite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4668770B.1010307 {a+} n3krozoft.com> watch this video on the website of the man from iran: http://www.amiralionly.com/video/Videodiaries.mov definite aetheric touch! hope he joins us. borsi From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Fri Jun 8 15:41:51 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 06:41:51 -0700 Subject: [aether] friday & maribor-future Message-ID: b,m, I can pop in for the frijam-can i have cell block 7?cym,were you able to contact luna park? manuel posteda lot of facts about the Aether project on the listif they need info, or you can just send them to the website. its nice u are so cliose geographically and that you have history there.-c -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070608/2a6f822b/attachment.html From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Fri Jun 8 17:38:57 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:38:57 -0500 Subject: [aether] =?iso-8859-1?q?jam_colombia_frame_n=BA3?= Message-ID: <77F05A58-CD0F-45A0-BB0D-BD648E2B7267 {a+} une.net.co> hi everybody, i could use frame n?3 if it is not already take by someone else. will be at irc by 14:00 (colombian time) i like a lot the "girl without hands"... and i will try to follow somme of the instructions for the jam... later i will prepare a very good set with all filters and the subject completily fixed Paula V?lez From lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de Fri Jun 8 19:20:17 2007 From: lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de (laure deselys) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 19:20:17 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [aether] (no subject) Message-ID: <679657.90152.qm {a+} web26710.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hello all by the way the dvd that i was working on, was finished for monday. the new version is very good, it relies on all kind of timelines. although im not going to be very far from the physical brussel performance group. I would very gladly occupy one screen ( screen 2 or 3, actually i really don't mind). But if someone from another country joins in, and that screens are full, i'll then leave mine to him. will be there at nine, will might be a little bit late and will try to get the applications (chat+screens) 'til then 2-More laure (brxl.bis) __________________________________ Yahoo! Clever: Sie haben Fragen? Yahoo! Nutzer antworten Ihnen. www.yahoo.de/clever From ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca Fri Jun 8 20:22:53 2007 From: ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca (::audrey::) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] Re : 2 small corrections Message-ID: <682272.63287.qm {a+} web50205.mail.re2.yahoo.com> salut manu. j'ai perdu ton mail avec les intructions pour le compte ftp que je devais creer... (un peu dernier minute). enfin si tu as le temps... audrey ----- Message initial ---- De : "1.1 [*] 1904.cc" <1.1 [*] 1904.cc> ? : //// collaborative networked performance //// Envoy? le : jeudi 7 juin 2007, 22 h 26 min 42 s Objet : [aether] 2 small corrections hi, two small corrections: international synchronised time of the jam session: 9 PM in europe Noon in califonia 2 PM in colombia !!! 11 PM in moscow 2 AM in bangkok 4 AM in tokyo btw we chose always quite similar timeframes, we should change that someday.. (like: evening in california, deep night in europe, noon in japan...) and here is the actual server list (we gave you the http directories, which isn't so useful for uploading) server list - FTP directories. 08.06.2007 1 | 2 | 3 4 | 5 | 6 7 | 8 | 9 Frame 1 - ftp://1904.cc/1/ Frame 2 - ftp://1904.cc/2/ Frame 3 - ftp://10111.org/web/0/ Frame 4 - ftp://10111.org/web/1/ Frame 5 - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/5/ Frame 6 - ftp://ftp.front.ru/6/ Frame 7 - ftp://ftp.front.ru/7/ Frame 8 - ftp://ftp.smtp.ru/cym/ Frame 9 - ftp://ftp.smtp.ru/9/ ps: i think i'll take frame 6... pps: cym, if you feel like representing the aether group at the Maribor workshop, and set up a performance display there, go for it. i don't think i'll able to do the trip at that moment, but will be happy to participate remotely at this occasion. actually the n3krozoft group perfored at pekarna some years ago... you can find useful material for the application at http://www.1904.cc/aether/material/ all the best, see you hopefully tomorrow... manuel _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether Faites des appels de PC ? PC dans le monde entier ! Essayez le nouveau Yahoo! Qu?bec Messenger avec Voix. http://cf.messenger.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070608/f6ba3296/attachment.html From theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org Fri Jun 8 22:26:46 2007 From: theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org (The League of Imaginary Scientists) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:26:46 -0700 Subject: [aether] remote fairytales - performance invitation In-Reply-To: <4666C9BF.4000009 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: Hey Boris, Thought I'd throw out an idea for how the League could participate in the Brussels show. we'll be en route to Norway so can't do the live experiment but thought the League could participate in one way or another - with physical objects ? which is kind of what we love to do when we do something electronic anyway ? merging the low/hi-fi. One idea - We could make scientific labels (pdf) for generic objects - (pseudo) artifacts from the project and based on the essay, like "official patch-writing tools, from the collection of the aether project, circa 2007" - as the label for a needle with thread in it - a physical object - giving the concept physicality; another label "artifact from preliminary aether exchange, composed of basic elements light and air," in front of an empty jar...; another - a print out of a dress pattern presented as instructions for building a patch; also a manifesto from the patch builders? construction union... What do you think - would this fit into the concept of strange communication jumble? Another idea - We write a third narrative that is a fairy tale merging the two storylines, where the patch builder becomes a part of a fairytale, and I make a pdf of this using fancy Old English style type ? maximum 5 pages and could be posted on the wall... Your thoughts? Lucy/League > > > Dear aethernauts > > the next performance of the aether9 group will be on Thursday 14th of > june, online and in brussels > at 7 PM in europe = 10 AM california = noon in colombia > in an audience packed gallery in the center of Brussels (n3krozoft Ltd > will occupy this space for 3 days (see the attached flyer). the > performance and the exhibit is called > "remote fairytales, contes lontains, fabel op afstand" > (last expression is flemmish - brussels is bilingual french/flemish. > flemish is very very close to dutch). > > the idea for this performance: > > 1) on location in brussels, next to the screen, there will be 2 persons > on stage: > - Deirdre Foster (she is a storyteller and actress from Geneva) - she > will tell her version on the classical tale (from the Grimm brothers) > "La jeune fille sans mains" (The girl without hands --> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Without_Hands). > - Me, Boris, i will be conferencing the audience about the reunion of an > important group of patchers (i'm almost over writing this > conference-like text extrapolating from my aether9 experience!) > we will intermingle our texts and form a strange dialogue. > our idea is that Deirdre & I will be quite confused about what is going > on: i will begin my conference by adressing myself to the audience in a > similar way and setting (chair, table, lamp) than academic conferences > are usually given, with the intention of informing he audience. Deirdre, > dressed in a ... fancy way, will then "interrupt me" and start telling > her tale, with the intention of enchanting her audience. I will react by > answering to her, in my conference mode, but with the intention of > understanding what Deirdre is doing here. Deirdre will continue her > tale, with the intention of unveiling the question: what am i doing in a > digital-media performance? i thought i was in a storyteller convention! > etc. and our dialogue will go on according to what happens between us > two, the audience and aether9 screens, but we will always stick more or > less to the stories we wrote. > > > 2) remote aether9 part: > in parralel to the stage action, aether9 remote action will flow on the > screen (maybe 2 screens). > we didn't develop any script yet. but we want to. > the script will integrate formal and narrative elements related to the > stage action. > sometimes the stage action will be on standby for the screen action to > take all the attention. in these moments, formal elements of aether9 > will prevail. > when the stage action will be running, the narrative elements of aether9 > wil prevail, providing a visual tale. > i guess that there will be an irc channel for aether9 with somebody in > brussels giving cues for actions. > our texts are in french and should be translated to some extent in > english for everybody to grasp the stories... well for Deirdre's tale, > the basis is on the net and for mine i'll adress this later today. > we wish that all remote performers have a common "neutral" set , for > instance something simple like : a table with a chair, a neutral wall, a > picture on the wall, a book and paper + pen or typemachine on the table. > this in order to avoid total randomness of the visual aspect and > confusion for the viewers (online especially), in order to have some unity. > not all performers would be perorming at the same time, and it would be > good to have a common neutral state in a way. > > 3) sound > - there will be some sound environnment in the brussel performance. > somebody will be in charge of the sound diffusion. > we are not thinking of stremaing the sound for the moment. > - we would like to invite you to upload some sound files on > aether at artslashmedia.ftp server in the >web >"sounds_remote_fairytales" > folder > - please view D. Lynch "rabbit" project for interesting sound treatment > (in our view...) > --> here are 2 videos: > http://www.bzzp.biz/temp/ > (1st episode: full first episode, 10min > fragment: 2 min extract) > - you could also record yourselves saying short sentences (cf. lynch again). > > > 4) rehearsals > - on the 13th of june, one day before the performance, we should do a > videocheck to see how everything is running in the gallery (at the same > time scheduled for the next day's performance.) > - this friday (8th of june), we would like to do a jam session. > this session will adress technical problems (the aether9 system was > working well on the "electronic caf? international" session of the 10th > of may. > since manuel has been working more on the patch and we need to test the > latest versions. > we will also write some script with formal elements to test how it goes. > for instance: > - the table setting described before > - make a cross between the 9 screens > - 2 persons making phone calls at the same time > etc. > > > ---------------------------------- > > so, > who will participate in this landmark performance? > - to my knowledge, the following aethernauts said that in principle they > are ready to take part: > Nathalie from paris, Audrey from holland, Paula from medellin, cym from > walkendorf, Chris from yorba linda - california. > i guess that a group from geneva will do a part too. > - Dr. Gomez & the league? > - Rhys from australia? (i heard that he would use puppets - that would > be good - performance time in au. would be early early in the morning.) > - Johan from berlin? > - Milena from the brazil group? > - Laure form the Kingdom of belgium? The League of Imaginary Scientists -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070608/85719c91/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 3346 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070608/85719c91/attachment.gif From lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de Sat Jun 9 00:48:18 2007 From: lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de (laure deselys) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 00:48:18 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [aether] good try In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <471795.48052.qm {a+} web26714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> for tonight. the other day, as i was reading some parts of one of the first chats. I think it was manuel, who was talking about the idea of having a song played for the physical presence that the remote performer would simulate by singing it in play back. i find the idea very good, something id like to see. i don't know if those who are more aware of the scenario, could try to integrate this action somehow and somewhere. good-night. Thighs ! sa?lor christiaan cruz schrieb: P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } more on IRC server: irc.techwarelabs.com channel: #aether here's a browserbased chat http://ircatwork.com/ _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Yahoo! Clever - Der einfachste Weg, Fragen zu stellen und Wissenswertes mit Anderen zu teilen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070609/b0067427/attachment.html From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Sat Jun 9 14:44:31 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 14:44:31 +0200 Subject: [aether] last news and performance preparation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <466AA0AF.9050005 {a+} n3krozoft.com> hello aethernauts, we jammed yesterday with laure_bruxell1, paula_medellin, manu_geneva, boris_brussel2 and amirali_teheran (chat&images) + christiaan_california, cym_walkendorf, ideakritik_rotterdam and the league_california (chat only) no script was established so it began slowly in a quite random jam, then ideakritik brilliantly gave cues according to elements of the "girl without hands" tale. it lasted 3 hours or so. -- technical conclusions: - the viewing 9frame html page works great (i attached some screenshots, some slots are black because we weren't 9) - for maxers: the patch upload_109 works perfectly - for ftp uploaders: it works well also this means that the transmission system for next thursday's performance is fully fonctional! -- practical conclusions: - we all agreed that it is extremely helpfull to be 2 persons for the performance, for example: 1 person in charge of following the irc chat for the cues, for the computer manipulations and the camera manipulations 1 person in charge of the image (as actor, puppetist, drawer etc) - we need a fine tuned script - this script should be finished on wednesday at the latest. (see my propositions below) - each performer needs a clear method. everybody develops one naturally, but it's better to find it before the performance than during the performance... will you use a fix or moving camera? etc etc. we need law&order: more the formal aspects are defined, the better it "feels" (knowing that anyway it will be quite hazardeous - i like this struggle). it's possible at any time now to upload images and visualise it on >http://1904.cc/aether/ >new test interface!!! - perform simple & small things we may think that what we are uploading is not "rich" or interesting enough, but then we forget that there are 8 other images! - react quicky & act slowly it's difficult to be all alert & super fast to react to cues and in the same way remember not to rush the action - obviously prepare a maximum of stuff before the beggining, in this way you can concentrate on less things during the performance. maxers: - use the 109 for upload and the htlm 9frame page to view (not the more complex upload_107 patch, wich may crash) - use the start/stop button often - do not constantly upload images. press the stop button to rearrange the setting and prepare for next actions. pressing once "start" then immediatly press "stop" will upload just one image. this is great to create controlled animations (although it's hard to control the order of the images, but it's verry fun nevertheless). -- proposals for the basis of the script: - the script form in grid that we used for the first aether9 performance was great i think. - it is now certain that we will use the "Girl Without Hands" tale. Deirdre will tell it during the performance in brussels (we don't know exaclty "how") - think it would be efficient and elegant to make a clear distinction between when we upload "formal" elements (like "film an empty desk before an empy chair") and "narrative" elements like ("The devil sends a messenger to kill the queen and daugther!") i guess some of us prefer to do a performance with emphasis on formal visuals, while others are more interested in emphasizing the video-storytelling - it's different types of freedom and constraint. both aspects are very important but cannot realistically be reunited by every single performer yet (because it would need so much preparation). one way to do this would be to have a constant distinction on the screen between who is working "fomal" and who is working "narrative". yesterday when everybody displayed an empty chair - the impression was striking! common action works, and they never fail to create an extremely deep impression. but the formal elements should always be thought of as going with the tale in a way but not interpretating it litterally. all this shall be scripted of course. - the n3krozoft team can edit the script according to all the input on the mailing list and related discussions, but if somebody or a group wants to take the responsability to put this sript together, it would be a great relief for us (because we are also in the rush of preparing the exhibit: building fine zoetropes, editing dvd's, printing very large video stills and more...). Please anonce it asap if you want to do this. -- lineup for thursday the 14th: sure: cym, laure, paula, nathalie, christiaan maybe: geneva, amirali:teheran, ideakritik no news: johan (berlin), alejo --> so we aren't ready yet participation-wise (there won't be any live performance in the brussel gallery space itself.) -- lookking forward, boris From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Sat Jun 9 15:14:27 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:14:27 +0200 Subject: [aether] the league proposals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <466AA7B3.2030707 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Hi Lucy, your proposals are most welcome! i don't know if Manuel answered you - i find your 2 ideas are both very interesting. especially in the context of the second performance we are going to do on saturday the 16th (for the "finissage" of the exhibit) - we aren't sure what we are going to do, but it will involve the aether9 project but whitout the remote performers. it will depend a little of what is going on the 14th. maybe i'll read the entire "conference" i wrote, but we don't know (i certainly won't read it all the 14th). the 16th there will be a projection. - the scientific labels - i imagine them being projected at that occasion. but also the 14th, before the performance actually starts - cause most of the attendance i guess will not have a clue of what is a patch. so these "objects" would make a great introduction. we could also print those document and post them on a wall. - the narrative: i'm very curious!!! yes it can be posted on a wall, good idea. it could also be helpfull for the script of the performance. when do you think you could produce this narrative? a wall would be dedicated to the aetheric writings (nathalie's & mine). ? bient?t, Boris The League of Imaginary Scientists wrote: > Hey Boris, > > Thought I'd throw out an idea for how the League could participate in > the Brussels show. we'll be en route to Norway so can't do the live > experiment but thought the League could participate in one way or > another - with physical objects ? which is kind of what we love to do > when we do something electronic anyway ? merging the low/hi-fi. > > One idea - > We could make scientific labels (pdf) for generic objects - (pseudo) > artifacts from the project and based on the essay, like "official > patch-writing tools, from the collection of the aether project, circa > 2007" - as the label for a needle with thread in it - a physical > object - giving the concept physicality; another label "artifact from > preliminary aether exchange, composed of basic elements light and > air," in front of an empty jar...; another - a print out of a dress > pattern presented as instructions for building a patch; also a > manifesto from the patch builders? construction union... What do you > think - would this fit into the concept of strange communication jumble? > > Another idea - > We write a third narrative that is a fairy tale merging the two > storylines, where the patch builder becomes a part of a fairytale, and > I make a pdf of this using fancy Old English style type ? maximum 5 > pages and could be posted on the wall... > > Your thoughts? > Lucy/League From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Sat Jun 9 15:27:29 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:27:29 +0200 Subject: [aether] attachments Message-ID: <466AAAC1.7000104 {a+} n3krozoft.com> voil?! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jam_session.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 155606 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070609/9e0b480e/attachment.jpg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But this performance won't be part of the aether 9-screen setting, it will be enclosing aether 9, but not by playing in one of the screen Just in order to avoid any confusion... Thank you good by Chlo? (N3krozoft Brussels) From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Sun Jun 10 00:20:51 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:20:51 +0200 Subject: [aether] friday & maribor-futur In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95c795f70706091520r13087fcfs733fc1b57d34fa4f {a+} mail.gmail.com> hello all, i looked into the material you sent about maribor. yes, i can be there as a representative and as a technical person when it means as much as turning on the computer, connecting the video-projector, starting the browser and opening up the webcam-windows. if the presentation should be done using max, i still have no experience to do so... and if i am in maribor for the occasion, should i be sending a webcam-stream also at the same time? it would probably be easier just to be in control of projecting the material that you are sending and make sure everything is presented in the right way, not having to bother to send material myself at the same time. did you send them the proposal? did you get any answer? i did not contact them. did they include us in the programm? i cannot find much info on the website http://www.eniarof.com/sloveniarof/ i am in ljubljana right now and i will pass by maribor tomorrow(sunday)-afternoon. i can stop at pekarna but i don't know if i will find anyone there that can give me more information about the event. but send me all the questions that you have anyway, so i have them ready just in case... a question from my side: does it have to be a macintosh computer for the presentation? and please use this address when contacting me, or send answer to the list. cym at cym.net is not working anymore. greetings, cym On 6/8/07, christiaan cruz wrote: > > b,m, > I can pop in for the frijam-can i have cell block 7? > > cym, > were you able to contact luna park? manuel posted > a lot of facts about the Aether project on the list > if they need info, or you can just send them to the > website. its nice u are so cliose geographically > and that you have history there. > > -c > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Sun Jun 10 11:24:09 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:24:09 +0200 Subject: [aether] maribor-futur In-Reply-To: <95c795f70706091520r13087fcfs733fc1b57d34fa4f {a+} mail.gmail.com> References: <95c795f70706091520r13087fcfs733fc1b57d34fa4f {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: hi, >hello all, > >i looked into the material you sent about maribor. yes, i can be there >as a representative and as a technical person when it means as much as >turning on the computer, connecting the video-projector, starting the >browser and opening up the webcam-windows. yeah, i think that should do it, running the control window on a second screen, having the main window in fullscreen projection. >and if i am in maribor for the occasion, should i be sending a >webcam-stream also at the same time? it would probably be easier just >to be in control of projecting the material that you are sending and >make sure everything is presented in the right way, not having to >bother to send material myself at the same time. yes, if you have to do everything by yourself, participating as a performer is quite out of question. but it would be nice if there would be some sort of feedback from maribor, like a table-chair setting that is filmed by a webcam, so the audience can interact ... >did you send them the proposal? did you get any answer? i did not >contact them. did they include us in the programm? i cannot find much >info on the website http://www.eniarof.com/sloveniarof/ i didn't write to them, since i'm not able to go there. I think it's better if you contact them. the contact on the workshop's webpage: makeemoo at [nospam] hotmail.com the contact of the main organiser (Douglas Edric Stanley): destanley at abstractmachine.net >i am in ljubljana right now and i will pass by maribor >tomorrow(sunday)-afternoon. i can stop at pekarna but i don't know if >i will find anyone there that can give me more information about the >event. but send me all the questions that you have anyway, so i have >them ready just in case... > >a question from my side: does it have to be a macintosh computer for >the presentation? no, with the html interface anything will work. best, manuel From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Sun Jun 10 22:20:05 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:20:05 +0200 Subject: [aether] maribor-futur In-Reply-To: References: <95c795f70706091520r13087fcfs733fc1b57d34fa4f {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <95c795f70706101320r6a67923aw67373706c12de41c {a+} mail.gmail.com> hello all, so i was in maribor today and by completely by chance the guy that is organizing the luna park thing was in pekarna. (i didn't expect anyone to be there on sunday...) so i shortly explained about the aether9 project and we should definitely send more information. he was very interested. and guess what, he is a volunteer from france so we can even send all the information in french. i guess i will just forward them the materials that you put together already. or maybe someone of you would like to send the information and explain the project more precisely? the guy is called max and his email is monsieurmoo at [nospam] gmail.com i think it would be good to also send the information to the other e-mails mentioned on the website. it is a group of french artists organizing it so i guess you can send all information in french. if you have time to send the first information it would be great. i really don't have much time at the moment that i can spend on organizing this :( but i will reserve july 6 and 7 to be in maribor and i will try to represent aether 9 as good as i can... so much for now, cym On 6/10/07, 1.1 [*] 1904.cc <1.1 [*] 1904.cc> wrote: > hi, > > > >hello all, > > > >i looked into the material you sent about maribor. yes, i can be there > >as a representative and as a technical person when it means as much as > >turning on the computer, connecting the video-projector, starting the > >browser and opening up the webcam-windows. > > yeah, i think that should do it, running the control window on a > second screen, having the main window in fullscreen projection. > > >and if i am in maribor for the occasion, should i be sending a > >webcam-stream also at the same time? it would probably be easier just > >to be in control of projecting the material that you are sending and > >make sure everything is presented in the right way, not having to > >bother to send material myself at the same time. > > yes, if you have to do everything by yourself, participating as a > performer is quite out of question. but it would be nice if there > would be some sort of feedback from maribor, like a table-chair > setting that is filmed by a webcam, so the audience can interact ... > > > >did you send them the proposal? did you get any answer? i did not > >contact them. did they include us in the programm? i cannot find much > >info on the website http://www.eniarof.com/sloveniarof/ > > i didn't write to them, since i'm not able to go there. I think it's > better if you contact them. > > the contact on the workshop's webpage: makeemoo at [nospam] hotmail.com > the contact of the main organiser (Douglas Edric Stanley): > destanley at abstractmachine.net > > > > >i am in ljubljana right now and i will pass by maribor > >tomorrow(sunday)-afternoon. i can stop at pekarna but i don't know if > >i will find anyone there that can give me more information about the > >event. but send me all the questions that you have anyway, so i have > >them ready just in case... > > > >a question from my side: does it have to be a macintosh computer for > >the presentation? > > no, with the html interface anything will work. > > best, > manuel > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Mon Jun 11 02:12:04 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:12:04 +0200 Subject: [aether] performance script update Message-ID: <466C9354.7010101 {a+} n3krozoft.com> hello everyone, little progress has been made today concerning the script, but: i wrote a simple structural version of the "Girl Without Hands" tale (with the help of Deirdre via skype - by the way, tommorow at noon Deirdre and Manu arrive (from geneva) in brussels) i divided it in 14 parts (arbitrarly- subject to changes) tommorow evening we will send a first version of the gridded script including formal elements and more - for example, in part 1, the frames can "interact" in the following manner: frame 1 & 3: devils aiming at the working poor paesant in frame 2 - frame 4,5 & 6: paesant family life and work - frames 7,8 & 9: devils menacing the upper frames. Good night, Boris >>>>>>>>>>> The Girl Whithout Hands (telegraphic version) -- 1. "Once upon a time" peasant family lives poorly girl is very beautifull and pure devil appears to father devil proposes a deal ignorant peasant accepts deal -- peasant family becomes rich rich rich -- 2. "3 years later" devil comes back to take the girl "Oh elle est belle - Comme la premi?re neige" "Oh she is beautifull like the first snows" girl is so pure that devils burns his hand when he takes her hand! devil orders girl to not wash daughter protects herself by tracing lines on ground around her -- 3. "3 months later" devil comes back to take the girl "Oh elle est belle comme la boue du d?sert" "Oh she is beautifull like the mud from the desert" girl cleans her hands with her tears girl is so pure that devils burns his hand when he takes her hand! devil orders father to cut hands of girl -- 4. "3 days later" devil comes back to take the girl father cuts hands of girl "Oh elle est belle comme l?inutile" "Oh she is beautifull like the useless" girl cries much on her arms devils burns himself when he embraces her! devil gives up -- 5. girl leaves home and homeland, goes into forest girl walks in the forests - living with animals -- 6. "3 years later" girl enters magic garden with pear trees tree branch bends down to feed the girl girl eats pear: spiritual food - very sensual as well! -- 7. the king & his wizard come to check the girl (in garden): "- Are you from this world? - I was from this world but am not anymore!" -- 8. marriage between king & girl the best goldsmith makes silver (or gold) hands for the girl (to wear the ring!) big wedding party -- 9. war!!! king goes at war girl has baby -- 10. messenger on horse goes to king with the baby news communication problem: message to king says: "your son half-dog half-man mother in sadness" "ton fils mi-homme mi-chien la m?re est en chagrin" king answers: "heal them with your hands - my heart belong to them" ? soignez-les de vos mains mon c?ur leur appartient ? messenger on horse goes back to girl with the message communication problem message to girl says: "bleed them with your hands - heart and tongue be witnesses" "Saignez-les de vos mains c?ur et langue en t?moin" (in french all this rimes...) -- 11. girl must flee to protect her life girl goes again in forest -- 12. king leaves castle to look for girl -- 13. "7 years after" king tired from searching girl king sleeps on horse horse is dragged towards hut in forest king and girl meet again ( and for the first time king meets his 7 years old son) -- 14. real hands grew on girl family reunited return to castle & marry again, with ring on real finger!!! (here obviously every frame shows some finger with a ring...) From theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org Mon Jun 11 12:28:11 2007 From: theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org (The League of Imaginary Scientists) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:28:11 -0700 Subject: [aether] the league proposals In-Reply-To: <466AA7B3.2030707 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: Hi Boris, Attached is our fairytale combining both narratives! I hope you can use it. A good night story for me... Lucy On 6/9/07 6:14 AM, "bk" wrote: > Hi Lucy, > your proposals are most welcome! > i don't know if Manuel answered you - i find your 2 ideas are both very > interesting. > especially in the context of the second performance we are going to do > on saturday the 16th (for the "finissage" of the exhibit) - we aren't > sure what we are going to do, but it will involve the aether9 project > but whitout the remote performers. it will depend a little of what is > going on the 14th. maybe i'll read the entire "conference" i wrote, but > we don't know (i certainly won't read it all the 14th). > the 16th there will be a projection. > - the scientific labels - i imagine them being projected at that > occasion. but also the 14th, before the performance actually starts - > cause most of the attendance i guess will not have a clue of what is a > patch. so these "objects" would make a great introduction. we could also > print those document and post them on a wall. > - the narrative: i'm very curious!!! yes it can be posted on a wall, > good idea. it could also be helpfull for the script of the performance. > when do you think you could produce this narrative? a wall would be > dedicated to the aetheric writings (nathalie's & mine). > > ? bient?t, > > Boris > > > The League of Imaginary Scientists wrote: >> Hey Boris, >> >> Thought I'd throw out an idea for how the League could participate in >> the Brussels show. we'll be en route to Norway so can't do the live >> experiment but thought the League could participate in one way or >> another - with physical objects ? which is kind of what we love to do >> when we do something electronic anyway ? merging the low/hi-fi. >> >> One idea - >> We could make scientific labels (pdf) for generic objects - (pseudo) >> artifacts from the project and based on the essay, like "official >> patch-writing tools, from the collection of the aether project, circa >> 2007" - as the label for a needle with thread in it - a physical >> object - giving the concept physicality; another label "artifact from >> preliminary aether exchange, composed of basic elements light and >> air," in front of an empty jar...; another - a print out of a dress >> pattern presented as instructions for building a patch; also a >> manifesto from the patch builders? construction union... What do you >> think - would this fit into the concept of strange communication jumble? >> >> Another idea - >> We write a third narrative that is a fairy tale merging the two >> storylines, where the patch builder becomes a part of a fairytale, and >> I make a pdf of this using fancy Old English style type ? maximum 5 >> pages and could be posted on the wall... >> >> Your thoughts? >> Lucy/League > The League of Imaginary Scientists -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Like a documentary film.) the only thing i really want to add to it is some color indications (i mean for example indications tht we should use green or blue filter). Nathalie suggested that it would be good, in cases like ours, to develop such a script on a wiki. it's very true. i don't have time to do this in an interesting way. but to keep in mind... participants, can you please confirm or infirm your presence at the "reheasal" tommorow wednesday at 7PM CET (10am kalifornia, 8am colombia, 9pm moscow). it will not be a complete rehearsal, simply to try things and check the technical aspects. Lookin forward, Boris ps: - you can edit the script (in word for example), save it as web-page /html, and send your changes to the list? - the "participant information" is in arbitrary disposition for now. - 2 frames are empty yet, we are looking now for the 2 missing perticipants. if you have friends or family who might be interested, propose to them! ---- http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/ http://1904.cc/kode/upload_109.zip http://www.bzzp.biz/temp/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But i a m glad to see the performance if there will be any Foto's left)) and nice storybord )) see you soon Metamolusque Daphne Am 12.06.2007 um 16:05 schrieb ::audrey::: > -- > > lineup for thursday the 14th: > > sure: cym, laure, paula, nathalie, christiaan > maybe: geneva, amirali:teheran, ideacritik > no news: johan (berlin), alejo > --> so we aren't ready yet participation-wise (there won't be any live > performance in the brussel gallery space itself.) > > -- > *move ideacritik(rotterdam,NL) to the _sure_ list* > > dear boris and al., > > i have downloaded demo version of max - server+upload patch > running. made small test with img plus live feed from camera with > success. i think the lag between me pressing start and seeing it on > the html browser has been at worst 10sec (plus ou moin). for a > couple of reasons, i have decided to perform from rotterdam. i am > excited to take on the stage for a change ;) > > a few questions: > about the initial script that you have sent, about the 'girl with > no hands' do you plan to add action verbs+colors+objects to this > also(or did i miss a mail)? or is the pdf from the league becoming > the script? i could not download their attachment (i can't download > anything unless via ftp or ssh). i noticed that a few days ago > boris, you said that you were too busy to deal with the script. you > since then have sent the 'initial version' which i speak of, would > it be useful to you if i added some instructions or is that taken > care of on your side already? > > voila. good luck with the last minute madness there in brussels! > > idea|audrey|critik > > > > Essayez le Tout-nouveau Yahoo! 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Message-ID: <392259.13925.qm {a+} web50204.mail.re2.yahoo.com> great script! play with numbers/time/grid is quite nice. > DESK Red frames : performer MUST display a desk with a chair in neutral setting (free to appear maked or not on the desk) what is 'maked' ? also, in this scene *only* a desk and a chair? (as in nothing else?). just to make sure. idea... ----- Message initial ---- De : "bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com" ? : aether at [nospam] 1904.cc Cc : rhysturner at rtek.com.au; jonas.richiardi at epfl.ch; f23 at 10111.org; amiralionly at [nospam] gmail.com; disziplin at 10111.org Envoy? le : mardi 12 juin 2007, 15 h 41 min 07 s Objet : [aether] performance script! hi all! so attached here is the first grid of the script for thursday! quite simple, you'll see, except it is in ... 13 acts. ( 13 acts X circa. 4 minutes = 52 minutes. Like a documentary film.) the only thing i really want to add to it is some color indications (i mean for example indications tht we should use green or blue filter). Nathalie suggested that it would be good, in cases like ours, to develop such a script on a wiki. it's very true. i don't have time to do this in an interesting way. but to keep in mind... participants, can you please confirm or infirm your presence at the "reheasal" tommorow wednesday at 7PM CET (10am kalifornia, 8am colombia, 9pm moscow). it will not be a complete rehearsal, simply to try things and check the technical aspects. Lookin forward, Boris ps: - you can edit the script (in word for example), save it as web-page /html, and send your changes to the list? - the "participant information" is in arbitrary disposition for now. - 2 frames are empty yet, we are looking now for the 2 missing perticipants. if you have friends or family who might be interested, propose to them! ---- http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/ http://1904.cc/kode/upload_109.zip http://www.bzzp.biz/temp/ -----La pi?ce jointe correspondante suit----- AETHER 9 AETHER 9 SCRIPT v.0.1 (The Girl Without Hands) PARTICIPANT INFORMATION Laure (brussels) Amirali ?(Teheran iran) ??? paula & kids (colombia) Ideakritik (holland)??? n3kr. brussels ? performance group n. fougeras (paris) c.cruz (California us) http://zurcnaaitsirhc.blogspot.com/ Cym (walkerdorf ? austria) http://cym.net/ 10111.org (geneva) ??? -- SCRIPT USER NOTICE : devil White frames : free intepretation of the hint DESK Red frames : performer MUST display a desk with a chair in neutral setting (free to appear maked or not on the desk) ? Grr ? Green frames : performer MUST write what contains this frame and upload it. --- reminder : Performers can upload live and/or non-live images -- 1- "Once upon a time" peasant family lives poorly girl is very beautifull and pure devil appears to father devil proposes a deal ignorant peasant accepts deal ACT 1 DEVIL - - - > Poor paesant working < - - - DEVIL Peasant familiy life Peasant family life DESK DEVIL DEVIL DEVIL 2 - "3 years later" devil comes back to take the girl "Oh elle est belle - Comme la premi?re neige" "Oh she is beautifull like the first snows" girl is so pure that devils burns his hand when he takes her hand! devil orders girl to not wash daughter protects herself by tracing lines on ground around her ACT 2 3 YEARS LATER Beautifull girlDraw lines around her DESK Beautifull girlDraw lines around her Devil burns hands 3 years later Devil burns hands 3- "3 months later" devil comes back to take the girl "Oh elle est belle comme la boue du d?sert" "Oh she is beautifull like the mud from the desert" girl cleans her hands with her tears girl is so pure that devils burns his hand when he takes her hand! devil orders father to cut hands of girl ACT 3 Girl cries on hands Devil burns hands Girl cries on hands 3 MONTHS LATER DESK Devil burns hands Girl cries on hands 4 ? ? 3 days later ? devil comes back to take the girl father cuts hands of girl "Oh elle est belle comme l?inutile" "Oh she is beautifull like the useless" girl cries much on her arms devils burns himself when he embraces her! devil gives up ACT 4 Father cuts hands - - - > Hands beeing cut DESK Girl cries on arms Father cuts hands Girl cries on arms 3 DAYS LATER 5 - girl leaves home and homeland, goes into forest girl walks in the forests - living with animals ACT 5 Girl + forest + animal !!! Girl + forest + animal !!! Girl + forest + animal !!! Girl + forest + animal !!! Girl + forest + animal !!! Girl + forest + animal !!! Girl + forest + animal !!! DESK Girl + forest + animal !!! 6 - "3 years later" girl enters magic garden with pear trees tree branch bends down to feed the girl girl eats pear: spiritual food - very sensual as well! ACT 6 3 Girl in garden Fruit trees YEARS MAGIC GARDEN DESK LATER Girl in garden Fruit trees 7 - the king & his wizard come to check the girl (in garden): "- Are you from this world? - I was from this world but am not anymore!" ACT 7 MAGIC GARDEN MAGIC GARDEN MAGIC GARDEN GIRL - - - > KING & WIZARD < - - - GIRL KING & WIZARD cym DESK 8 - marriage between king & girl the best goldsmith makes silver (or gold) hands for the girl (to wear the ring!) big wedding party ACT 8 WEDDING WEDDING Ring on silver hand WEDDING Ring on silver hand WEDDING Ring on silver hand DESK WEDDING 9 - war!!! king goes at war girl has baby ACT 9 WAR BABY NEW BORN WAR DESK WAR BABY NEW BORN BABY NEW BORN MOTHER & BABY WAR 10. messenger on horse goes to king with the baby news communication problem: message to king says: "your son half-dog half-man mother in sadness" "ton fils mi-homme mi-chien la m?re est en chagrin" king answers: "heal them with your hands - my heart belong to them" ? soignez-les de vos mains mon c?ur leur appartient ? messenger on horse goes back to girl with the message communication problem message to girl says: "bleed them with your hands - heart and tongue be witnesses" "Saignez-les de vos mains c?ur et langue en t?moin" (in french all this rimes...) ACT 10 "ton fils mi-homme mi-chien la m?re est en chagrin" Messenger on horse King reads message King read message ? soignez-les de vos mains mon c?ur leur appartient ? Messenger on horse DESK Messenger on horse "Saignez-les de vos mains c?ur et langue en t?moin" 11 - girl must flee to protect her life girl goes again in forest king searches for girl ACT 11 Girl in forest King looking for girl Girl in forest King looking for girl DESK King looking for girl Girl in forest King looking for girl Girl in forest 12 - "7 years after" king tired from searching girl king sleeps on horse horse is dragged towards hut in forest king and girl meet again ( and for the first time king meets his 7 years old son) ACT 12 DESK King on horse 7 King on horse Family reunited YEARS Family reunited Family reunited AFTER 13. real hands grew on girl family reunited return to castle & marry again, with ring on real finger!!! (here obviously every frame shows some finger with a ring...) ACT 13 Real hands DESK Finger with ring Real hands ring Finger with ring Real hands ring Finger with ring --+// ACT 13 End + desk End + desk End + desk End + desk End + desk End + desk End + desk End + desk End + desk _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether Combattez les m?chants pourriels... Le filtre SpamGuard vous aide ? lutter efficacement contre les pourriels sur le Tout-nouveau Yahoo! Courriel http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40705/*http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=cf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070612/0dc959e5/attachment.html From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Wed Jun 13 02:41:27 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:41:27 +0200 Subject: [aether] upload_109 or 107? In-Reply-To: <672981.27087.qm {a+} web50203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <672981.27087.qm {a+} web50203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: it's exactly the same regarding the upload part. v.107 also has preview windows of the 9 performers, but this needs max-java to actually work. if not the case, you can save screen real estate and processing power with the 109 version. >petite/small question: > >upload_109 or upload_107? i tried 109 and it works. dv camera, >'live-in' to max 109 patch... osX, chose square/server 9 (.ru). > >ideacritik > From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Wed Jun 13 09:02:37 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:02:37 -0700 Subject: [aether] ?s for wed thurs & FRI Message-ID: I lost the latest script through all the posts.Either that or the digested version of the listblocked the file. I couldn't find the latest script in the archive either. Is there a direct link?Can the latest 109 patch accept an AVI fileand cut it up into jpegs? Is there a windowsversion?I was testing my web2FTP on cell 1 1904.cc/1/http://1904.cc/aether/control_panel.html#It took a long time to get more than onecell to go faster than 3 speed. The cell wouldbe black for many seconds before it wouldrefresh and start showing images at the faster speeds. 1 & 2 speeds seemed towork the best for just viewing (no streaming) without long periods of black in some cells.My broadband internet connection was good during the test too.On Friday Jun15th another submission is due for http://www.paraflows.at/index.php?id=2&L=1 un_space at paraflows.at The original script about the "Un_Space" of the "Aethernet" could be twaeked for this eventin Vienna. Will anyone be there the 13-23rd SEP?-christiaan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070613/a24284dc/attachment.html From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Wed Jun 13 15:39:17 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:39:17 +0200 Subject: [aether] ?s for wed thurs & FRI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <466FF385.6030006 {a+} n3krozoft.com> hi chris, > Is there a direct link to the script? no, i'll attach it here. > Can the latest 109 patch accept an AVI file > and cut it up into jpegs? Is there a windows > version? try it with 109 patch. cym's friend wrote a pd patch that maybe could do it. you should try it (ask cym to send you this pd patch) > I was testing my web2FTP on cell 1 > 1904.cc/1/ > http://1904.cc/aether/control_panel.html# > > It took a long time to get more than one > cell to go faster than 3 speed. The cell would > be black for many seconds before it would > refresh and start showing images at the > faster speeds. 1 & 2 speeds seemed to > work the best for just viewing (no streaming) > without long periods of black in some cells. independently from the connection speed, speeds 3 & 4 don't work great. we will supress them for now. see you later today, boris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070613/bf0e4807/attachment.htm From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Wed Jun 13 18:53:27 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:53:27 +0200 Subject: [aether] ?s for wed thurs & FRI In-Reply-To: <466FF385.6030006 {a+} n3krozoft.com> References: <466FF385.6030006 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <95c795f70706130953u3d3e1693v57b60dcde651e720 {a+} mail.gmail.com> do we meet on irc tonight? which server/channel? On 6/13/07, bk wrote: > > hi chris, > > Is there a direct link to the script? > no, i'll attach it here. > > > Can the latest 109 patch accept an AVI file > > and cut it up into jpegs? Is there a windows > > version? > try it with 109 patch. > cym's friend wrote a pd patch that maybe could do it. you should try it > (ask cym to send you this pd patch) > > > > I was testing my web2FTP on cell 1 > > 1904.cc/1/ > > http://1904.cc/aether/control_panel.html# > > > > It took a long time to get more than one > > cell to go faster than 3 speed. The cell would > > be black for many seconds before it would > > refresh and start showing images at the > > faster speeds. 1 & 2 speeds seemed to > > work the best for just viewing (no streaming) > > without long periods of black in some cells. > independently from the connection speed, speeds 3 & 4 don't work great. > we will supress them for now. > > > see you later today, > boris > > AETHER 9 SCRIPT v.0.1 (The Girl Without Hands) > > > > > > PARTICIPANT INFORMATION > > > > > > > > > > > > Laure (brussels) > > Amirali ?(Teheran iran) ??? > > paula & kids (colombia) > > > > > > Ideakritik (holland)??? > > n3kr. brussels ? performance group > > n. fougeras (paris) > > > > > > c.cruz (California us) > > http://zurcnaaitsirhc.blogspot.com/ > > Cym (walkerdorf ? austria) > > http://cym.net/ > > 10111.org (geneva) ??? > > > > -- > > > > SCRIPT USER NOTICE : > > > > devil > > White frames : free intepretation of the hint > DESK > > Red frames : performer MUST display a desk with a chair in neutral setting > (free to appear maked or not on the desk) > > ? Grr ? > > Green frames : performer MUST write what contains this frame and upload > it. > > --- > > reminder : Performers can upload live and/or non-live images > -- > > > > 1- "Once upon a time" > > peasant family lives poorly > > girl is very beautifull and pure > > devil appears to father > > devil proposes a deal > ignorant peasant accepts deal > > ACT 1 > > > > > > > > > DEVIL - - - > Poor paesant working < - - - DEVIL > > > Peasant familiy life Peasant family life DESK > > > DEVIL DEVIL DEVIL > > 2 - "3 years later" > > devil comes back to take the girl > > *"Oh elle est belle - Comme la premi?re neige"* > > *"Oh she is beautifull like the first snows"* > > girl is so pure that devils burns his hand when he takes her hand! > > devil orders girl to not wash > daughter protects herself by tracing lines on ground around her > > ACT 2 > > > > > > > > > 3 YEARS > > LATER > > > > > Beautifull girlDraw lines around her DESK Beautifull girlDraw lines > around her > > > Devil burns hands 3 years later Devil burns hands > > > > 3- "3 months later" > > devil comes back to take the girl > > *"Oh elle est belle comme la boue du d?sert"* > > *"Oh she is beautifull like the mud from the desert"* > > girl cleans her hands with her tears > > girl is so pure that devils burns his hand when he takes her hand! > devil orders father to cut hands of girl > > ACT 3 > > > > > > > > > Girl cries on hands Devil burns hands Girl cries on hands > > > 3 MONTHS LATER > > > DESK Devil burns hands Girl cries on hands > > > > > > 4 ? ? 3 days later ? > > devil comes back to take the girl > > father cuts hands of girl > "Oh elle est belle comme l'inutile" > > *"Oh she is beautifull like the useless"* > > girl cries much on her arms > > devils burns himself when he embraces her! > devil gives up > > ACT 4 > > > > > > > > > Father cuts hands - - - > Hands beeing cut DESK > > > Girl cries on arms Father cuts hands Girl cries on arms > > > 3 DAYS LATER > > > > 5 - girl leaves home and homeland, goes into forest > girl walks in the forests - living with animals > > ACT 5 > > > > > > > > > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > DESK > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > > > > 6 - "3 years later" > > girl enters magic garden with pear trees > > tree branch bends down to feed the girl > girl eats pear: spiritual food - very sensual as well! > > ACT 6 > > > > > > > > > 3 Girl in garden Fruit trees > > > YEARS MAGIC GARDEN DESK > > > LATER Girl in garden Fruit trees > > > > 7 - the king & his wizard come to check the girl (in garden): > > "- Are you from this world? > - I was from this world but am not anymore!" > > ACT 7 > > > > > > > > > > MAGIC GARDEN > > MAGIC GARDEN > > MAGIC GARDEN > > > GIRL - - - > KING & WIZARD < - - - GIRL > > > KING & WIZARD cym DESK > > > > 8 - marriage between king & girl > > the best goldsmith makes silver (or gold) hands for the girl (to wear the > ring!) > big wedding party ACT 8 > > > > > > > > > WEDDING WEDDING Ring on silver hand > > > WEDDING Ring on silver hand WEDDING > > > Ring on silver hand DESK WEDDING > > > > 9 - war!!! > > king goes at war > girl has baby > > ACT 9 > > > > > > > > > > WAR > > > BABY NEW BORN WAR > > > DESK WAR BABY NEW BORN > > > BABY NEW BORN MOTHER & BABY WAR > > 10. > > messenger on horse goes to king with the baby news > > communication problem: message to king says: > > "your son half-dog half-man mother in sadness" > > "ton fils mi-homme mi-chien la m?re est en chagrin" > > king answers: > > "heal them with your hands - my heart belong to them" > > ? soignez-les de vos mains mon c?ur leur appartient ? > > messenger on horse goes back to girl with the message > > communication problem > > message to girl says: > > "bleed them with your hands - heart and tongue be witnesses" > > "Saignez-les de vos mains c?ur et langue en t?moin" > (in french all this rimes...) > > ACT 10 > > > > > > > > > > "ton fils mi-homme mi-chien la m?re est en chagrin" > Messenger on horse King reads message > > > King read message > > ? soignez-les de vos mains mon c?ur leur appartient ? > Messenger on horse > > > DESK Messenger on horse > > "Saignez-les de vos mains c?ur et langue en t?moin" > > > 11 - girl must flee to protect her life > > girl goes again in forest > king searches for girl > > ACT 11 > > > > > > > > > > Girl in forest > King looking for girl > > Girl in forest > > > King looking for girl > > DESK > King looking for girl > > > > Girl in forest > King looking for girl > > Girl in forest > > > 12 - "7 years after" > > king tired from searching girl > > king sleeps on horse > > horse is dragged towards hut in forest > king and girl meet again ( and for the first time king meets his 7 years > old son) > > ACT 12 > > > > > > > > > > DESK > King on horse > > 7 > > > King on horse Family reunited YEARS > > > Family reunited Family reunited AFTER > > 13. > > real hands grew on girl > > family reunited return to castle & marry again, with ring on real > finger!!! > (here obviously every frame shows some finger with a ring...) > > ACT 13 > > > > > > > > > > Real hands > DESK > > Finger with ring > > > > Real hands > ring > > Finger with ring > > > > Real hands > ring > > Finger with ring > > > > --+// > > ACT 13 > > > > > > > > > > End + desk > > End + desk > > End + desk > > > > End + desk > > End + desk > > End + desk > > > > End + desk > > End + desk > > End + desk > > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070613/97bf30ad/attachment.html From nova at [nospam] viator.si Wed Jun 13 19:46:34 2007 From: nova at [nospam] viator.si (Nova Viator) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:46:34 +0200 Subject: [aether] aether pd patch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1181756794.21584.52.camel {a+} wonko> hi all first of all, i wanted to join you today and tomorrow, but something come inbetween so, sadly, i cannot participate this time secondly, the patch is now available here if anyone wants to use it: http://bin.viator.si/?page=AetherOne i want to tune it up a little too. i had the following ideas (please let me know if they are interesting or not): - load a movie instead of live webcam or mix them - make uploading (and possibly converting) through a separate shell script, which you run in another terminal so one doesn't need [shell] object btw, the patch should run on osx, if you have all requirements. okay, love, luka On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 02:49 +0200, 1.1 [*] 1904.cc wrote: > hi, > > this answers my previous questions... > thanks for putting this patch together, i would be glad if you can > send it to me > would be nice to have it running on osx too > > did you try an upload already? > > btw we could spare the "convert to jpg" part by simply changing the > html of the concerned windows... > best, > manuel > > > > > >From: "cym net" > >To: aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > > > > >hello all, > > > >a friend of mine wrote a patch for pd last night that should do the > >same thing as the max/jitter patch (upload images from the live webcam > >stream to the server via ftp, naming them img1 to img33 and when they > >reach 33 start again with img1). > > > >if anyone of you is working with debian linux pd i can send the patch. > >in general he would be interested to share and test the patch with > >anyone. > > > >also, he would be interested to join the jam session tomorrow. > >his name is Nova Viator (or Luka Princic) and you can find more > >information about him at > >http://bin.viator.si/?page=biography > >+ http://viator.si/ > > > >attached is a png of the pd patch he sent me > > > >greetings, > > > >cym > > -- You don't become a failure until you're satisfied with being one. + http://viator.si From ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca Thu Jun 14 14:07:01 2007 From: ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca (::audrey::) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 05:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] Re : aether pd patch Message-ID: <28479.40892.qm {a+} web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> hi luka, audrey here. i 'emerged' pdp and set the 'png' use flag. the problems i'm having are that all the pdp_... + shell objects are *not* creating. i'm currently on irc.freenode.net #dataflow asking how to get this shell object. if you can tell me that would be great, and the mysterious pdp_ objects also perhaps? cheers, audrey ----- Message initial ---- De : Nova Viator ? : aether at [nospam] 1904.cc Envoy? le : mercredi 13 juin 2007, 19 h 46 min 34 s Objet : Re: [aether] aether pd patch hi all first of all, i wanted to join you today and tomorrow, but something come inbetween so, sadly, i cannot participate this time secondly, the patch is now available here if anyone wants to use it: http://bin.viator.si/?page=AetherOne i want to tune it up a little too. i had the following ideas (please let me know if they are interesting or not): - load a movie instead of live webcam or mix them - make uploading (and possibly converting) through a separate shell script, which you run in another terminal so one doesn't need [shell] object btw, the patch should run on osx, if you have all requirements. okay, love, luka On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 02:49 +0200, 1.1 [*] 1904.cc wrote: > hi, > > this answers my previous questions... > thanks for putting this patch together, i would be glad if you can > send it to me > would be nice to have it running on osx too > > did you try an upload already? > > btw we could spare the "convert to jpg" part by simply changing the > html of the concerned windows... > best, > manuel > > > > > >From: "cym net" > >To: aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > > > > >hello all, > > > >a friend of mine wrote a patch for pd last night that should do the > >same thing as the max/jitter patch (upload images from the live webcam > >stream to the server via ftp, naming them img1 to img33 and when they > >reach 33 start again with img1). > > > >if anyone of you is working with debian linux pd i can send the patch. > >in general he would be interested to share and test the patch with > >anyone. > > > >also, he would be interested to join the jam session tomorrow. > >his name is Nova Viator (or Luka Princic) and you can find more > >information about him at > >http://bin.viator.si/?page=biography > >+ http://viator.si/ > > > >attached is a png of the pd patch he sent me > > > >greetings, > > > >cym > > -- You don't become a failure until you're satisfied with being one. + http://viator.si _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether Essayez le Tout-nouveau Yahoo! 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Visitez les groupes de l'heure sur > * Yahoo! Qu?bec Groupes.* > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070614/5ec0290d/attachment.html From nova at [nospam] viator.si Thu Jun 14 16:09:51 2007 From: nova at [nospam] viator.si (Nova Viator) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:09:51 +0200 Subject: [aether] Re : aether pd patch In-Reply-To: References: <28479.40892.qm {a+} web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1181830191.21584.78.camel {a+} wonko> hi, alejo, audrey, all! On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 14:18 +0200, alejo d wrote: > hi luka (i know the other luka from slovenia, from ludmjla..:) eyy.. > nice pd patch!, i will like to try it out as soon as i have a chance, :) yeah, you know Frelih, cool. :) > audrey what platform? x86 or ppc? i doubt that emerging pdp will > really work, those things are always better to manually compile, the > INSTALL file is always very clear but as soon as you have a more > precise error go ahead and let us know that way will be easier to know > where you are exactly. i think emerging pdp should work quite well... > > if the emerged for pdp work maybe you have to go into pd's preferences > and select the path to the dir where they are i think you know that > already... quite correct. in other words, you need to tell PD that it loads PDP library when it starts. you can do that by putting -lib pdp in .pdrc in your home directory, or within PD, File menu, "Startup", where you entery only "pdp" (without quotes), save options, restart pd. > about the shell object im almost sure is part of gunter gigers ggee > group, the best way will be to make a CVS download (instructions for > this you can find in the pd.info site) and then run make inside the > extras directory. yes. it shoudl be easy like this emerge/install cvs do a login to cvs: cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/pure-data/ login (that's one line there) (hit return when asked for password) checkout ggee lib: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous at pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/pure-data/ co externals/ggee/ (that's one line too) go to externals/ggee dir and do make it should compile all the ggee externals. then just copy externals/ggee/control/shell.pd_linux to /usr/lib/pd/extra/ and you are done. the patch will then be able to make the shell object. if you are using gentoo (as i think you are emerging in portage, then), you can emerge ncftp and imagemagick too. ok, sorry for this, maybe should not go on the list, but it seems there are more of you who need this.. love, luka > http://bin.viator.si/?page=AetherOne -- Wishing without work is like fishing without bait. -- Frank Tyger + http://viator.si From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Thu Jun 14 16:53:23 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:53:23 +0200 Subject: [aether] rename images cym Message-ID: <95c795f70706140753s64b83042v25e6e07380c4f835 {a+} mail.gmail.com> hello, so i will use vdub tonight. fe2cruz gave me a short tour through the programm on skype last night after the meeting. and i think it will be the best solution for me to use this, until i find a better setup. this means that i will be uploading sequences of 10 images. i will call them cym_000.jpg till cym_009.jpg is that okay for you, or shall i change the name? can you rename this on the server so my images will show? my images should then work on speed 1 and 2. as for content that we were supposed to send before. i have had absolutely no time to work on it until now, but i will go out now in the garden with my son. i will dress him up, first as devil, then as a girl and make short movies of him. a few short movies for each act in the story. we will be outside filming for about 1 hour and then i will download, edit and upload the movies live during the play. and maybe we will record some new movies during the play. it will be an experiment... hope it will be fun cym From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Thu Jun 14 16:55:39 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:55:39 +0200 Subject: [aether] luna park Message-ID: <95c795f70706140755x7691c267se5fd63d9ea643e1f {a+} mail.gmail.com> by the way, manuel, did you contact the people from luna park? maybe it would be good to invite them to watch the performance tonight. cym From lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de Thu Jun 14 17:15:04 2007 From: lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de (laure deselys) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:15:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [aether] =?iso-8859-1?q?it=27s_=962h?= In-Reply-To: <466FF385.6030006 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <866817.5955.qm {a+} web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> it's ?2h and i would like to be put in contact with the other participants should i be invited to any chat room ? i cant get the images in the nine screen screen it just opens a page for one screen at a time ia that normal ? laure. my skype name : laure.dit bk schrieb: hi chris, > Is there a direct link to the script? no, i'll attach it here. > Can the latest 109 patch accept an AVI file > and cut it up into jpegs? Is there a windows > version? try it with 109 patch. cym's friend wrote a pd patch that maybe could do it. you should try it (ask cym to send you this pd patch) > I was testing my web2FTP on cell 1 > 1904.cc/1/ > http://1904.cc/aether/control_panel.html# > > It took a long time to get more than one > cell to go faster than 3 speed. The cell would > be black for many seconds before it would > refresh and start showing images at the > faster speeds. 1 & 2 speeds seemed to > work the best for just viewing (no streaming) > without long periods of black in some cells. independently from the connection speed, speeds 3 & 4 don't work great. we will supress them for now. see you later today, boris AETHER 9 samaria oukalipso Normal samaria oukalipso 14 2007-06-12T12:06:00Z 2007-06-12T13:25:00Z 5 761 4342 Vania Ltd 36 8 5332 10.2006 150 21 0 0 AETHER 9 SCRIPT v.0.1 (The Girl Without Hands) PARTICIPANT INFORMATION Laure (brussels) Amirali ?(Teheran iran) ??? paula & kids (colombia) Ideakritik (holland)??? n3kr. brussels ? performance group n. fougeras (paris) c.cruz (California us) http://zurcnaaitsirhc.blogspot.com/ Cym (walkerdorf ? austria) http://cym.net/ 10111.org (geneva) ??? -- SCRIPT USER NOTICE : devil White frames : free intepretation of the hint DESK Red frames : performer MUST display a desk with a chair in neutral setting (free to appear maked or not on the desk) ? Grr ? Green frames : performer MUST write what contains this frame and upload it. --- reminder : Performers can upload live and/or non-live images -- 1- "Once upon a time" peasant family lives poorly girl is very beautifull and pure devil appears to father devil proposes a deal ignorant peasant accepts deal ACT 1 DEVIL - - - > Poor paesant working < - - - DEVIL Peasant familiy life Peasant family life DESK DEVIL DEVIL DEVIL 2 - "3 years later" devil comes back to take the girl "Oh elle est belle - Comme la premi?re neige" "Oh she is beautifull like the first snows" girl is so pure that devils burns his hand when he takes her hand! devil orders girl to not wash daughter protects herself by tracing lines on ground around her ACT 2 3 YEARS LATER Beautifull girlDraw lines around her DESK Beautifull girlDraw lines around her Devil burns hands 3 years later Devil burns hands 3- "3 months later" devil comes back to take the girl "Oh elle est belle comme la boue du d?sert" "Oh she is beautifull like the mud from the desert" girl cleans her hands with her tears girl is so pure that devils burns his hand when he takes her hand! devil orders father to cut hands of girl ACT 3 Girl cries on hands Devil burns hands Girl cries on hands 3 MONTHS LATER DESK Devil burns hands Girl cries on hands 4 ? ? 3 days later ? devil comes back to take the girl father cuts hands of girl "Oh elle est belle comme l?inutile" "Oh she is beautifull like the useless" girl cries much on her arms devils burns himself when he embraces her! devil gives up ACT 4 Father cuts hands - - - > Hands beeing cut DESK Girl cries on arms Father cuts hands Girl cries on arms 3 DAYS LATER 5 - girl leaves home and homeland, goes into forest girl walks in the forests - living with animals ACT 5 Girl + forest + animal !!! Girl + forest + animal !!! Girl + forest + animal !!! Girl + forest + animal !!! Girl + forest + animal !!! Girl + forest + animal !!! Girl + forest + animal !!! DESK Girl + forest + animal !!! 6 - "3 years later" girl enters magic garden with pear trees tree branch bends down to feed the girl girl eats pear: spiritual food - very sensual as well! ACT 6 3 Girl in garden Fruit trees YEARS MAGIC GARDEN DESK LATER Girl in garden Fruit trees 7 - the king & his wizard come to check the girl (in garden): "- Are you from this world? - I was from this world but am not anymore!" ACT 7 MAGIC GARDEN MAGIC GARDEN MAGIC GARDEN GIRL - - - > KING & WIZARD < - - - GIRL KING & WIZARD cym DESK 8 - marriage between king & girl the best goldsmith makes silver (or gold) hands for the girl (to wear the ring!) big wedding party ACT 8 WEDDING WEDDING Ring on silver hand WEDDING Ring on silver hand WEDDING Ring on silver hand DESK WEDDING 9 - war!!! king goes at war girl has baby ACT 9 WAR BABY NEW BORN WAR DESK WAR BABY NEW BORN BABY NEW BORN MOTHER & BABY WAR 10. messenger on horse goes to king with the baby news communication problem: message to king says: "your son half-dog half-man mother in sadness" "ton fils mi-homme mi-chien la m?re est en chagrin" king answers: "heal them with your hands - my heart belong to them" ? soignez-les de vos mains mon c?ur leur appartient ? messenger on horse goes back to girl with the message communication problem message to girl says: "bleed them with your hands - heart and tongue be witnesses" "Saignez-les de vos mains c?ur et langue en t?moin" (in french all this rimes...) ACT 10 "ton fils mi-homme mi-chien la m?re est en chagrin" Messenger on horse King reads message King read message ? soignez-les de vos mains mon c?ur leur appartient ? Messenger on horse DESK Messenger on horse "Saignez-les de vos mains c?ur et langue en t?moin" 11 - girl must flee to protect her life girl goes again in forest king searches for girl ACT 11 Girl in forest King looking for girl Girl in forest King looking for girl DESK King looking for girl Girl in forest King looking for girl Girl in forest 12 - "7 years after" king tired from searching girl king sleeps on horse horse is dragged towards hut in forest king and girl meet again ( and for the first time king meets his 7 years old son) ACT 12 DESK King on horse 7 King on horse Family reunited YEARS Family reunited Family reunited AFTER 13. real hands grew on girl family reunited return to castle & marry again, with ring on real finger!!! (here obviously every frame shows some finger with a ring...) ACT 13 Real hands DESK Finger with ring Real hands ring Finger with ring Real hands ring Finger with ring --+// ACT 13 End + desk End + desk End + desk End + desk End + desk End + desk End + desk End + desk End + desk _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf?gt ?ber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070614/a2f73a77/attachment.html From ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca Thu Jun 14 17:18:46 2007 From: ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca (::audrey::) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] Re : Re : aether pd patch Message-ID: <406297.65103.qm {a+} web50201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> thanx. put pdp in startup libraries. all but [12s] can be created... and pd on startup reports that problem loading pdp and that pdp's libraries should be loaded first. although the pdp_ objects work fine. :S so -- [12s] still to go. now though i fear that i have to log out of linux and jump on osx for tonight! will work on it more later -- for next time i hope. what directory would [ 12s] be in the CVS? audrey Essayez le Tout-nouveau Yahoo! Courriel, pour voir un aper?u du panneau de lecture de courriels ! http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40705/*http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=cf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070614/e49a101d/attachment.html From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Thu Jun 14 17:49:13 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:49:13 +0200 Subject: [aether] =?utf-8?b?aXQncyDigJMyaA==?= In-Reply-To: <866817.5955.qm {a+} web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <466FF385.6030006 {a+} n3krozoft.com> <866817.5955.qm {a+} web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <95c795f70706140849x6f6288fdn42c6535313c27667 {a+} mail.gmail.com> i am on skype but there is no one there... maybe brussels is offline.. On 6/14/07, laure deselys wrote: > > it's ?2h > > and i would like to be put in contact with the other participants > should i be invited to any chat room ? > > i cant get the images in the nine screen screen > it just opens a page for one screen at a time > ia that normal ? > > laure. > > my skype name : laure.dit > > *bk * schrieb: > > hi chris, > > Is there a direct link to the script? > no, i'll attach it here. > > > Can the latest 109 patch accept an AVI file > > and cut it up into jpegs? Is there a windows > > version? > try it with 109 patch. > cym's friend wrote a pd patch that maybe could do it. you should try it > (ask cym to send you this pd patch) > > > > I was testing my web2FTP on cell 1 > > 1904.cc/1/ > > http://1904.cc/aether/control_panel.html# > > > > It took a long time to get more than one > > cell to go faster than 3 speed. The cell would > > be black for many seconds before it would > > refresh and start showing images at the > > faster speeds. 1 & 2 speeds seemed to > > work the best for just viewing (no streaming) > > without long periods of black in some cells. > independently from the connection speed, speeds 3 & 4 don't work great. > we will supress them for now. > > > see you later today, > boris > AETHER 9 SCRIPT v.0.1 (The Girl Without Hands) > > > PARTICIPANT INFORMATION > > > > > > Laure (brussels) > Amirali ?(Teheran iran) ??? > paula & kids (colombia) > > > Ideakritik (holland)??? > n3kr. brussels ? performance group > n. fougeras (paris) > > > c.cruz (California us) > http://zurcnaaitsirhc.blogspot.com/ > Cym (walkerdorf ? austria) > http://cym.net/ > 10111.org (geneva) ??? > > -- > > SCRIPT USER NOTICE : > > devil > White frames : free intepretation of the hint > DESK Red frames : performer MUST display a desk with a chair in neutral > setting (free to appear maked or not on the desk) > ? Grr ? > Green frames : performer MUST write what contains this frame and upload > it. > --- > reminder : Performers can upload live and/or non-live images > -- > 1- "Once upon a time" > peasant family lives poorly > girl is very beautifull and pure > devil appears to father > devil proposes a deal > ignorant peasant accepts deal ACT 1 > > > > > DEVIL - - - > Poor paesant working < - - - DEVIL > Peasant familiy life Peasant family life DESK > DEVIL DEVIL DEVIL 2 - "3 years later" > devil comes back to take the girl > *"Oh elle est belle - Comme la premi?re neige"* > *"Oh she is beautifull like the first snows"* > girl is so pure that devils burns his hand when he takes her hand! > devil orders girl to not wash > daughter protects herself by tracing lines on ground around her ACT 2 > > > > > 3 YEARS LATER > > > Beautifull girlDraw lines around her DESK Beautifull girlDraw lines > around her > Devil burns hands 3 years later Devil burns hands > 3- "3 months later" > devil comes back to take the girl > *"Oh elle est belle comme la boue du d?sert"* > *"Oh she is beautifull like the mud from the desert"* > girl cleans her hands with her tears > girl is so pure that devils burns his hand when he takes her hand! > devil orders father to cut hands of girl ACT 3 > > > > > Girl cries on hands Devil burns hands Girl cries on hands > 3 MONTHS LATER > DESK Devil burns hands Girl cries on hands > > 4 ? ? 3 days later ? > devil comes back to take the girl > father cuts hands of girl > "Oh elle est belle comme l'inutile" *"Oh she is beautifull like the > useless"* > girl cries much on her arms > devils burns himself when he embraces her! > devil gives up ACT 4 > > > > > Father cuts hands - - - > Hands beeing cut DESK > Girl cries on arms Father cuts hands Girl cries on arms > 3 DAYS LATER > 5 - girl leaves home and homeland, goes into forest > girl walks in the forests - living with animals ACT 5 > > > > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > Girl + forest + animal !!! > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > Girl + forest + animal !!! > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > DESK > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > > 6 - "3 years later" > girl enters magic garden with pear trees > tree branch bends down to feed the girl > girl eats pear: spiritual food - very sensual as well! ACT 6 > > > > > 3 Girl in garden Fruit trees > YEARS MAGIC GARDEN DESK > LATER Girl in garden Fruit trees > 7 - the king & his wizard come to check the girl (in garden): > "- Are you from this world? > - I was from this world but am not anymore!" ACT 7 > > > > > MAGIC GARDEN > MAGIC GARDEN > MAGIC GARDEN > > GIRL - - - > KING & WIZARD < - - - GIRL > KING & WIZARD cym DESK > 8 - marriage between king & girl > the best goldsmith makes silver (or gold) hands for the girl (to wear the > ring!) > big wedding party ACT 8 > > > > WEDDING WEDDING Ring on silver hand > WEDDING Ring on silver hand WEDDING > Ring on silver hand DESK WEDDING > 9 - war!!! > king goes at war > girl has baby ACT 9 > > > > > WAR > > BABY NEW BORN WAR > DESK WAR BABY NEW BORN > BABY NEW BORN MOTHER & BABY WAR 10. > messenger on horse goes to king with the baby news > communication problem: message to king says: > "your son half-dog half-man mother in sadness" > "ton fils mi-homme mi-chien la m?re est en chagrin" > king answers: > "heal them with your hands - my heart belong to them" > ? soignez-les de vos mains mon c?ur leur appartient ? > messenger on horse goes back to girl with the message > communication problem > message to girl says: > "bleed them with your hands - heart and tongue be witnesses" > "Saignez-les de vos mains c?ur et langue en t?moin" > (in french all this rimes...) ACT 10 > > > > > "ton fils mi-homme mi-chien la m?re est en chagrin" > Messenger on horse King reads message > King read message ? soignez-les de vos mains mon c?ur leur appartient ? > Messenger on horse > DESK Messenger on horse "Saignez-les de vos mains c?ur et langue en > t?moin" > 11 - girl must flee to protect her life > girl goes again in forest > king searches for girl ACT 11 > > > > > Girl in forest > King looking for girl Girl in forest > > King looking for girl DESK > King looking for girl > Girl in forest > King looking for girl Girl in forest > 12 - "7 years after" > king tired from searching girl > king sleeps on horse > horse is dragged towards hut in forest > king and girl meet again ( and for the first time king meets his 7 years > old son) ACT 12 > > > > > DESK > King on horse 7 > > King on horse Family reunited YEARS > Family reunited Family reunited AFTER 13. > real hands grew on girl > family reunited return to castle & marry again, with ring on real > finger!!! > (here obviously every frame shows some finger with a ring...) ACT 13 > > > > > Real hands > DESK Finger with ring > > Real hands > ring Finger with ring > > Real hands > ring Finger with ring > > --+// > ACT 13 > > > > > End + desk > End + desk > End + desk > > End + desk > End + desk > End + desk > > End + desk > End + desk > End + desk > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf?gt ?ber einen herausragenden Schutz > gegen Massenmails. > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070614/5049588e/attachment.html From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Thu Jun 14 17:51:12 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:51:12 +0200 Subject: [aether] =?utf-8?b?aXQncyDigJMyaA==?= In-Reply-To: <95c795f70706140849x6f6288fdn42c6535313c27667 {a+} mail.gmail.com> References: <466FF385.6030006 {a+} n3krozoft.com> <866817.5955.qm {a+} web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <95c795f70706140849x6f6288fdn42c6535313c27667 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <95c795f70706140851y30ca3e2ejc4b1227e59f92f8f {a+} mail.gmail.com> same problem here.. every cam opens in a new window On 6/14/07, cym net wrote: > > i am on skype but there is no one there... > > maybe brussels is offline.. > > > On 6/14/07, laure deselys wrote: > > > it's ?2h > > > > and i would like to be put in contact with the other participants > > should i be invited to any chat room ? > > > > i cant get the images in the nine screen screen > > it just opens a page for one screen at a time > > ia that normal ? > > > > laure. > > > > my skype name : laure.dit > > > > *bk * schrieb: > > > > hi chris, > > > Is there a direct link to the script? > > no, i'll attach it here. > > > > > Can the latest 109 patch accept an AVI file > > > and cut it up into jpegs? Is there a windows > > > version? > > try it with 109 patch. > > cym's friend wrote a pd patch that maybe could do it. you should try it > > (ask cym to send you this pd patch) > > > > > > > I was testing my web2FTP on cell 1 > > > 1904.cc/1/ > > > http://1904.cc/aether/control_panel.html# > > > > > > It took a long time to get more than one > > > cell to go faster than 3 speed. The cell would > > > be black for many seconds before it would > > > refresh and start showing images at the > > > faster speeds. 1 & 2 speeds seemed to > > > work the best for just viewing (no streaming) > > > without long periods of black in some cells. > > independently from the connection speed, speeds 3 & 4 don't work great. > > we will supress them for now. > > > > > > see you later today, > > boris > > AETHER 9 SCRIPT v.0.1 (The Girl Without Hands) > > > > > > PARTICIPANT INFORMATION > > > > > > > > > > > > Laure (brussels) > > Amirali ?(Teheran iran) ??? > > paula & kids (colombia) > > > > > > Ideakritik (holland)??? > > n3kr. brussels ? performance group > > n. fougeras (paris) > > > > > > c.cruz (California us) > > http://zurcnaaitsirhc.blogspot.com/ > > Cym (walkerdorf ? austria) > > http://cym.net/ > > 10111.org (geneva) ??? > > > > -- > > > > SCRIPT USER NOTICE : > > > > devil > > White frames : free intepretation of the hint > > DESK Red frames : performer MUST display a desk with a chair in > > neutral setting (free to appear maked or not on the desk) > > ? Grr ? > > Green frames : performer MUST write what contains this frame and > > upload it. > > --- > > reminder : Performers can upload live and/or non-live images > > -- > > 1- "Once upon a time" > > peasant family lives poorly > > girl is very beautifull and pure > > devil appears to father > > devil proposes a deal > > ignorant peasant accepts deal ACT 1 > > > > > > > > > > DEVIL - - - > Poor paesant working < - - - DEVIL > > Peasant familiy life Peasant family life DESK > > DEVIL DEVIL DEVIL 2 - "3 years later" > > devil comes back to take the girl > > *"Oh elle est belle - Comme la premi?re neige"* > > *"Oh she is beautifull like the first snows"* > > girl is so pure that devils burns his hand when he takes her hand! > > devil orders girl to not wash > > daughter protects herself by tracing lines on ground around her > > ACT 2 > > > > > > > > > > 3 YEARS LATER > > > > > > Beautifull girl Draw lines around her DESK Beautifull girlDraw lines > > around her > > Devil burns hands 3 year s later Devil burns hands > > 3- "3 months later" > > devil comes back to take the girl > > *"Oh elle est belle comme la boue du d?sert"* > > *"Oh she is beautifull like the mud from the desert"* > > girl cleans her hands with her tears > > girl is so pure that devils burns his hand when he takes her hand! > > devil orders father to cut hands of girl ACT 3 > > > > > > > > > > Girl cries on hands Devil burns hands Girl cries on hands > > 3 MONTHS LATER > > DESK Devil burns hands Girl cries on hands > > > > 4 ? ? 3 days later ? > > devil comes back to take the girl > > father cuts hands of girl > > "Oh elle est belle comme l'inutile" *"Oh she is beautifull like the > > useless"* > > girl cries much on her arms > > devils burns himself when he embraces her! > > devil gives up ACT 4 > > > > > > > > > > Father cuts hands - - - > Hands beeing cut DESK > > Girl cries on arms Father cuts hands Girl cries on arms > > 3 DAYS LATER > > 5 - girl leaves home and homeland, goes into forest > > girl walks in the forests - living with animals ACT 5 > > > > > > > > > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > DESK > > Girl + forest + animal !!! > > > > > > 6 - "3 years later" > > girl enters magic garden with pear trees > > tree branch bends down to feed the girl > > girl eats pear: spiritual food - very sensual as well! ACT 6 > > > > > > > > > > 3 Girl in garden Fruit trees > > YEARS MAGIC GARDEN DESK > > LATER Girl in garden Fruit trees > > 7 - the king & his wizard come to check the girl (in garden): > > "- Are you from this world? > > - I was from this world but am not anymore!" ACT 7 > > > > > > > > > > MAGIC GARDEN > > MAGIC GARDEN > > MAGIC GARDEN > > > > GIRL - - - > KING & WIZARD < - - - GIRL > > KING & WIZARD cym DESK > > 8 - marriage between king & girl > > the best goldsmith makes silver (or gold) hands for the girl (to wear > > the ring!) > > big wedding party ACT 8 > > > > > > > > WEDDING WEDDING Ring on silver hand > > WEDDING Ring on silver hand WEDDING > > Ring on silver hand DESK WEDDING > > 9 - war!!! > > king goes at war > > girl has baby ACT 9 > > > > > > > > > > WAR > > > > BABY NEW BORN WAR > > DESK WAR BABY NEW BORN > > BABY NEW BORN MOTHER & BABY WAR 10. > > messenger on horse goes to king with the baby news > > communication problem: message to king says: > > "your son half-dog half-man mother in sadness" > > "ton fils mi-homme mi-chien la m?re est en chagrin" > > king answers: > > "heal them with your hands - my heart belong to them" > > ? soignez-les de vos mains mon c?ur leur appartient ? > > messenger on horse goes back to girl with the message > > communication problem > > message to girl says: > > "bleed them with your hands - heart and tongue be witnesses" > > "Saignez-les de vos mains c?ur et langue en t?moin" > > (in french all this rimes...) ACT 10 > > > > > > > > > > "ton fils mi-homme mi-chien la m?re est en chagrin" > > Messenger on horse King reads message > > King read message ? soignez-les de vos mains mon c?ur leur > > appartient ? > > Messenger on horse > > DESK Messenger on horse "Saignez-les de vos mains c?ur et langue en > > t?moin" > > 11 - girl must flee to protect her life > > girl goes again in forest > > king searches for girl ACT 11 > > > > > > > > > > Girl in forest > > King looking for girl Girl in forest > > > > King looking for girl DESK > > King looking for girl > > Girl in forest > > King looking for girl Girl in forest > > 12 - "7 years after" > > king tired from searching girl > > king sleeps on horse > > horse is dragged towards hut in forest > > king and girl meet again ( and for the first time king meets his 7 > > years old son) ACT 12 > > > > > > > > > > DESK > > King on horse 7 > > > > King on horse Family reunited YEARS > > Family reunited Family reunited AFTER 13. > > real hands grew on girl > > family reunited return to castle & marry again, with ring on real > > finger!!! > > (here obviously every frame shows some finger with a ring...) ACT 13 > > > > > > > > > > Real hands > > DESK Finger with ring > > > > Real hands > > ring Finger with ring > > > > Real hands > > ring Finger with ring > > > > --+// > > ACT 13 > > > > > > > > > > End + desk > > End + desk > > End + desk > > > > End + desk > > End + desk > > End + desk > > > > End + desk > > End + desk > > End + desk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > aether mailing list > > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf?gt ?ber einen herausragenden Schutz > > gegen Massenmails. > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > aether mailing list > > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070614/abb1ce83/attachment.html From nova at [nospam] viator.si Thu Jun 14 18:38:11 2007 From: nova at [nospam] viator.si (Nova Viator) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:38:11 +0200 Subject: [aether] Re : Re : aether pd patch In-Reply-To: <406297.65103.qm {a+} web50201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <406297.65103.qm {a+} web50201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1181839091.21584.101.camel {a+} wonko> On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 08:18 -0700, ::audrey:: wrote: > thanx. put pdp in startup libraries. all but [12s] can be created... > and pd on startup reports that problem loading pdp and that pdp's > libraries should be loaded first. although the pdp_ objects work > fine. :S > > so -- [12s] still to go. now though i fear that i have to log out of > linux and jump on osx for tonight! will work on it more later -- for > next time i hope. what directory would [ 12s] be in the CVS? oh shit, i appologise for that. i forgot that dependency. it's in zexy library. it's as externals/zexy in cvs. it seems it's using scons for building. i've made a simple instructions for compiling pdp from cvs here: http://bin.viator.si/?page=PureDataPacket+%5BPDP%5D+from+CVS hey, thanks for testing this and giving feedback. btw, for osx users, maybe somebody would try and use pd-extended installer offered on http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html (i *think* windows version do not contain pdp, but i'm not sure) maybe it works ok? ll. -- Words can never express what words can never express. + http://viator.si From ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca Thu Jun 14 20:16:25 2007 From: ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca (::audrey::) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] Re : Re : Re : aether pd patch Message-ID: <396752.69441.qm {a+} web50205.mail.re2.yahoo.com> >oh shit, i appologise for that. i forgot that dependency. it's in zexy library. it's as externals/zexy in cvs. it seems it's using scons for building. i will try that! >i've made a simple instructions for compiling pdp from cvs here: http://bin.viator.si/?page=PureDataPacket+%5BPDP%5D+from+CVS thanx. >btw, for osx users, maybe somebody would try and use pd-extended installer offered on http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html only problem is that pdp is extremely buggy on osx, that is the main reason why i considered switching to linux.... it is pretty much impossible to run pdp on osx... 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070614/961ec719/attachment.html From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Sat Jun 16 15:04:32 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:04:32 +0200 Subject: [aether] brussels performance report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4673DFE0.4090506 {a+} n3krozoft.com> hello all, we just opened the gallery this morning in brussels for the last day of the exhibit here. i write now a little performance report ///// 1. Mother Nature we where about ready (one hour before the performance) when mother nature invited herself it started to rain and rain and rain and all at once, water filtered through the roof of the large performance hall and poured in buckets on our command table we ran to unplug the curent and move tables in the dark to protect the computers and cameras and stuff the sound was ear-crushing: torrential rain in 5 minutes, there was 5 cm of water everywhere and we where soaked... and sort of annoyed... so we rushed to transfer everything from the big hall to the smaller exhibit hall while the lady-gallerist was calling the fire department ///// 2. Action quite stessfull we managed to be not too late for the beginning and the performance started in front of about 30 people (that where brave enough to come in spite of the exceptional storm) some more walked in during the show they where welcomed with champagne and other drinks Deirdre told the tale in a baroque white dress colored by the projection rays Chloe mixed discreet sounds & music Boris told his story sitting in front of the audience on a desk while trying to film his part of the tale. Manuel managed the projected images and chated on the skype conference ///// 3. Audience reaction some people where quite confused, but most of them liked it to put it simply and shortly. /////// 4. Debriefing it was hard to be fully concentrate under these climatic conditions - but it was exciting... - as there was no actual stage anymore, Deirdre found it extremely difficult to properly perform her craft, storytelling. she also feels frustration that we didn't have enough time to prepare a more refined "mise en scene" between her and Boris. - Manuel was trying to give cues according to Deirdre's words, and obviously it was going much too quick for the remote performers (& for manuel also who had to solve some techicalities...) - it was a BIG mistake to do so. we apologize for that. a better thing would be for the performers to switch between acts every 3 minutes for instance - like that everything would be co-ordinated whitout questions... it is a shame really that the performers weren't able to display their work in a calm manner with sufficient time to do so. this will not happen again. - Boris is basically satisfied of the opportunity to read loud his speech (adapted for the circumstance...). -- pictures & movies will come soon on the aether website. and check cristiaan site: http://zurcnaaitsirhc.blogspot.com/ -- ? bient?t, Boris From theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org Tue Jun 19 01:45:15 2007 From: theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org (The League of Imaginary Scientists) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:45:15 -0700 Subject: [aether] maribor-futur In-Reply-To: <95c795f70706101320r6a67923aw67373706c12de41c {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I've landed somewhere. Saw the Elements of Chance posted on the site for 7/7 - I think I missed this development - is it a part of the workshop in Maribor? If another group performance, I could potentially present from a gallery in Norway on July 7... I'm in London now and will be in Norway and later Denmark - any of you here/thereabouts? potential for "real" interaction... Meeting with http gallery tomorrow and will share Aether info. Lucy/League On 6/10/07 1:20 PM, "cym net" wrote: > hello all, > > so i was in maribor today and by completely by chance the guy that is > organizing the luna park thing was in pekarna. (i didn't expect anyone > to be there on sunday...) > so i shortly explained about the aether9 project and we should > definitely send more information. he was very interested. and guess > what, he is a volunteer from france so we can even send all the > information in french. > > i guess i will just forward them the materials that you put together > already. or maybe someone of you would like to send the information > and explain the project more precisely? > the guy is called max and his email is monsieurmoo at [nospam] gmail.com > > i think it would be good to also send the information to the other > e-mails mentioned on the website. it is a group of french artists > organizing it so i guess you can send all information in french. if > you have time to send the first information it would be great. i > really don't have much time at the moment that i can spend on > organizing this :( but i will reserve july 6 and 7 to be in maribor > and i will try to represent aether 9 as good as i can... > > so much for now, > > cym > > > On 6/10/07, 1.1 [*] 1904.cc <1.1 [*] 1904.cc> wrote: >> hi, >> >> >>> hello all, >>> >>> i looked into the material you sent about maribor. yes, i can be there >>> as a representative and as a technical person when it means as much as >>> turning on the computer, connecting the video-projector, starting the >>> browser and opening up the webcam-windows. >> >> yeah, i think that should do it, running the control window on a >> second screen, having the main window in fullscreen projection. >> >>> and if i am in maribor for the occasion, should i be sending a >>> webcam-stream also at the same time? it would probably be easier just >>> to be in control of projecting the material that you are sending and >>> make sure everything is presented in the right way, not having to >>> bother to send material myself at the same time. >> >> yes, if you have to do everything by yourself, participating as a >> performer is quite out of question. but it would be nice if there >> would be some sort of feedback from maribor, like a table-chair >> setting that is filmed by a webcam, so the audience can interact ... >> >> >>> did you send them the proposal? did you get any answer? i did not >>> contact them. did they include us in the programm? i cannot find much >>> info on the website http://www.eniarof.com/sloveniarof/ >> >> i didn't write to them, since i'm not able to go there. I think it's >> better if you contact them. >> >> the contact on the workshop's webpage: makeemoo at [nospam] hotmail.com >> the contact of the main organiser (Douglas Edric Stanley): >> destanley at abstractmachine.net >> >> >> >>> i am in ljubljana right now and i will pass by maribor >>> tomorrow(sunday)-afternoon. i can stop at pekarna but i don't know if >>> i will find anyone there that can give me more information about the >>> event. but send me all the questions that you have anyway, so i have >>> them ready just in case... >>> >>> a question from my side: does it have to be a macintosh computer for >>> the presentation? >> >> no, with the html interface anything will work. >> >> best, >> manuel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aether mailing list >> aether at [nospam] 1904.cc >> http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether >> > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether The League of Imaginary Scientists From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Tue Jun 19 17:59:53 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:59:53 -0700 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 2, Issue 15 Message-ID: sure lucy,anything you can do 7/7/7 would be great.cym will probably be in maribor.they are still developing the format {a+} berkeley.i hope to get a timeframe from them soon.then after develop a simple quick script with everyone who would be available 7/7/7and a rehearsal that would fit everyone elsestime frames best. i thought about trying this to write/collaborate:https://www.coventi.com/main.aspxunless anyone has found a non corporate onewithout a required log-in? > 1. 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070619/aa0f364f/attachment.html From nova at [nospam] viator.si Wed Jun 20 15:15:27 2007 From: nova at [nospam] viator.si (Luka =?UTF-8?Q?Prin=C4=8Di=C4=8D?= / Nova Viator) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:15:27 +0200 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 2, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070620151527.2460d2a2.nova {a+} viator.si> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:59:53 -0700 christiaan cruz wrote: > > sure lucy,anything you can do 7/7/7 would be great.cym will probably be in maribor.they are still developing the format {a+} berkeley.i hope to get a timeframe from them soon.then after develop a simple quick script with everyone who would be available 7/7/7and a rehearsal that would fit everyone elsestime frames best. i thought about trying this to write/collaborate:https://www.coventi.com/main.aspxunless anyone has found a non corporate onewithout a required log-in? > http://www.google.com/google-d-s/intl/en/tour2.html (i know google is corporate) another option is a dedicated wiki someplace? or even http://www.wikispaces.com/ or http://pbwiki.com/ or it's very easy to set one up if you have some space -- one of the easiest should be http://www.pawfal.org/pawfaliki/ ll -- Never invest your money in anything that eats or needs repainting. -- Billy Rose + http://viator.si From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Thu Jun 21 03:20:12 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:20:12 +0200 Subject: [aether] snip In-Reply-To: <20070620151527.2460d2a2.nova {a+} viator.si> References: <20070620151527.2460d2a2.nova {a+} viator.si> Message-ID: hi all, some comments on recent posts: COLLBORATIVE WRITING: i'm in favour of the wiki way too. here is an already implemented wiki that we could use for that purpose: http://1904.cc/timeline/ i hope it's not too complicated to use. you need to login as a user to be able to edit (so start by clicking on "register". the syntax is not very complicated, links are created by writing ((double brackets)), other special caracters are listed here: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wiki+Syntax&bl this WIKI could be very useful for two things: - development of upcoming performance scripts - creation of an extensive "how-to" where we describe all the different techniques we're using. PURE DATA: about the pd patch: i did some quick testing under osx, didnt manage to get everything to work, but it looks promising. i was able to get live input from a firewire webcam (via the pdp_ieee1394 object) as well as video playback (via pdp_qt , but only a few codecs such as sorensen3 seem to work) hint for osx users: try this version of pd: Pure Data 0.39.2-extended-rc3, found at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html (released on 15th june so it's quite up-to-date) hint #2 for osx: in order to get any video to work, the X11 application should be running before you start PD (X11 can be found on one of your system install disks). BRUSSELS AFTERMATH: the material from the brussels performance should be online soon (boris did a video edit of the performance that should be uploaded somewhere). although not directly connected with the aether performance, here are a few recordings of the zoetropes processed in realtime... http://n3krozoft.com/projects/art/fairytales/ best, manuel From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Sun Jun 24 11:03:12 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:03:12 +0200 Subject: [aether] br+kng n+ws Message-ID: hi aetherniks, some news: - there's a new max/msp test patch for Windows, using a window-specific object for image capture. to the window users who had trouble with the previous patches, please give a try to this one! http://1904.cc/kode/upload_110.zip - there's a new test html page, which is reading images in PNG format. it appears after testing that the same images tend to be smaller in PNG than in JPG, so it seems a good idea to switch. not to mention that this will make things easier in PureData. the page: http://10111.org/~aether/test/speed2.html the FTP directory: 10111.org/web/test/ 0x.png to 9x.png there's a new max patch, upload_112, which is able to upload images in png, also to that new test directory. http://1904.cc/kode/upload_112.zip (OSX version) in general, links to latest patches and general info about how to use max and other software can be found here: http://1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=MAX%2Fjitter+patches - don't hesitate to expand the Wiki! create an account and you'll be able to freely edit the pages. technical things aside, it's time we start to concentrate on the next sessions. there's an event scheduled for 7th july (07.07.07), for which we should initiate brainstorming. no news from maribor yet. maybe we could meet for an IRC session dedicated to discussing the content of the next performances. finally, we have the pleasure to welcome on the list a new collaborator who will hopefully take part in future events: Judy Nylon, musician, performance artist and writer, mostly based in NYC. and a few more pics and videos from brussels are online, at http://n3krozoft.com/projects/art/fairytales/ that's it for the moment, best. manuel From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Mon Jun 25 10:09:23 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:09:23 +0200 Subject: [aether] 070707 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi chris, (i post this also to the list since it concerns all of us) was just wondering, do you know what's going on with the 7/7/7 berkeley conference? the youtube page wasn't updated since two months, no program posted yet. maybe you have some news? also, we talked with cym about the concept and the maribor part (no news from there either..) and our idea was to stick with the numbers theme, and do the performance at 7 pm (maribor time, ie 10am in california) with 7 active frames, and a duration of 7x7 minutes.. another thing, here's an annoucement where we could/should sumit aether9: SHARE AWARD : DIGITAL ART PRIZE 2008 http://www.toshare.it deadline is september 30th, so there's no hurry more soon, best, manuel >sure lucy, >anything you can do 7/7/7 would be great. >cym will probably be in maribor. >they are still developing the format {a+} berkeley. >i hope to get a timeframe from them soon. >then after develop a simple quick script >with everyone who would be available 7/7/7 >and a rehearsal that would fit everyone elses >time frames best. > From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Tue Jun 26 15:53:27 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:53:27 -0500 Subject: [aether] 7/7/7 test jam performance Message-ID: <4E32326B-7CDC-4A5D-BE51-8466F03CDFDF {a+} une.net.co> manuel and everybody: i will be absent the 7/7/7 for the test. no net service where i will be. i'll be developping a project I have in a community in colombian north coast , caribean. see here some information not actualized but something... the thing is... blog in spanish .... will be translated later. http://laborincondelmar.wordpress.com/ i'm looking now for an architect that want to design a non expensive model of house with local materials to project un idea that respects the nature and interacts with. Paula From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Wed Jun 27 18:24:14 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:24:14 -0700 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 2, Issue 19 Message-ID: Still waiting. after I sent the email to Lucy I sent anotherfollow-up email to Meredith. The program of 7 cellsat 7pm in 7 7 minute sections sounds perfect. I think thegroup can start writing a wiki script together now. It'dbe fun with no text just numbers. This way we don't have to translate. We can just interpret 7 formulas asvisuals. We won't need a person to tell us to change chapters either. We just all start at the same time and then change synchrnized at 7 minutes everytime. We canall use this browserbased stopwatch:http://stopwatch.onlineclock.net/ I will be out of town (remote) so I can only stream in images . I won't be able to set up a live gallery projection locally in CA.Good luck on your project Paula. Have a safe trip.-christiaan> From: aether-request at [nospam] 1904.cc> Subject: aether Digest, Vol 2, Issue 19> To: aether at [nospam] 1904.cc> was just wondering, do you know what's going on with the 7/7/7 > berkeley conference?> the youtube page wasn't updated since two months, no program posted -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070627/d5c92a61/attachment.html From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Wed Jun 27 23:36:10 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:36:10 +0200 Subject: [aether] script&wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4682D84A.4000802 {a+} n3krozoft.com> following a little chat, Nathalie and i started the wiki page for the next aether script for 07/07/07. it's here: http://www.1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=%C3%A6ther9 now it shall grow! i just added some things, proceeding by addition to the latest thing that was written there. if you have a better method, feel free... and good trip Paula! Boris christiaan cruz wrote: > > Still waiting. after I sent the email to Lucy I sent another > follow-up email to Meredith. The program of 7 cells > at 7pm in 7 7 minute sections sounds perfect. I think the > group can start writing a wiki script together now. It'd > be fun with no text just numbers. This way we don't > have to translate. We can just interpret 7 formulas as > visuals. We won't need a person to tell us to change > chapters either. We just all start at the same time and > then change synchrnized at 7 minutes everytime. We can > all use this browserbased stopwatch: > http://stopwatch.onlineclock.net/ > > I will be out of town (remote) so I can only stream in images . > I won't be able to set up a live gallery projection locally in CA. > > Good luck on your project Paula. Have a safe trip. > > -christiaan > > > From: aether-request at [nospam] 1904.cc > > Subject: aether Digest, Vol 2, Issue 19 > > To: aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > > was just wondering, do you know what's going on with the 7/7/7 > > berkeley conference? > > the youtube page wasn't updated since two months, no program posted > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Sat Jun 30 01:41:12 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:41:12 +0200 Subject: [aether] news update Message-ID: dear fellow aethernauts, a short update concerning upcoming events: - we received today a VERY short notice invitation for aether9 to participate in a semi-private event of lectures/performances, taking place in Rotterdam 1st and 2nd of July, organised by some students at Piet Zwart Institute. one of them is a friend of us so we couldnt refuse... since it leaves very little time for preparation we (ie. me and boris who discussed this today, since we received the invitation today) are thinking about using a reduced setup, like 3 active frames (gva + brussels + ...), for a 10-15 minute live transmission. . it will occur on monday, 2nd july, around 19:30 pm in Rotterdam (UTC+2). any participation is welcome of course. it will be fun anyway. location in Rotterdam: conference room of Hotel New York. - 7.7.7 : no news for the 7th july event (from berkeley nor from maribor) but that shouldn't stop us. - there's a possibility of aetheric intervention during an event in Bulgaria, Net User 4 international working camp. quoting the info blurb: "The working camp will explore various issues around the theme of Networking or how do people living in the technological era develop and use the network technologies." The whole thing takes place in a mountain resort, Pleven Hovel, 1504 meters above sea level. The idea is not to go there, but to make an entirely telepresent performance. Duration, setup etc is open to discussion. Dates: 16-22 July 2007. I contacted the organiser (InterSpace Association), they're very interested. link: www.netuser.bg that's it for the moment... best, manuel ps: feed the wiki: http://1904.cc/timeline/ From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Sat Jun 30 07:05:39 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:05:39 -0700 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 2, Issue 21 Message-ID: Hope everyone is having a nice summer.Welcome Judy.still haven't heard from meredith or greg. but it sounds likepeople are still interested in performing on 777. I am excited to stream myself. Could we get a Cell count on who would be able to contribute to the 7 spots? To the interest in sound, would we be able to add sound to the html page with limited midi or heavly compressed mono mp3s? To keep it simple, we could upload 7 prerecorded midi or mp3 or ogg files and the page wouldjust play them in an order that works for the script.it sounds like everyone likes the new free script format?here are examples of formulas you could write into the scripthttp://www.math.utah.edu/~pa/math/equations/equations.htmlAnthony Braxton would write such mystical graphical titles that explained his pieces.an example would be something like this to explainbrightness contrast placement etc.but its all free to the artists interpretation.(7) X \ / (42) / \T WIf I glanced at this quickly I could interpretthe low W for a soft White themewith high contrast from the upper X7 second frame changes from the upper 7a rhythm or constant beat of 42 and a concentration on time for Tor something silly like 7 + 7 = u & me in hea7enor even html codes: #2E9AFE = baby blue?We could alternatively make really strict rules for the formulas. So strict it would cause natural mistakes and errors. Everyone would just have to make sure they don't let the mistakes and errors stress them out during the performance.I tried to access the wiki but I'm not getting a login or I just don't see the edit button/link.thanks for starting the script boris, nathalie...Share award looks easy enough.Manuel, did you get a response from ACM?once I learn how to use the aether wikimaybe we could collaborate on the detailsof the 150 word description.a happy july to everyone, -christiaanfe2cruz to skype -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070629/66756db7/attachment.html From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Sat Jun 30 09:04:23 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:04:23 +0200 Subject: [aether] news update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95c795f70706300004h5b6bc1dcp4bbafd0fa6d1c79 {a+} mail.gmail.com> hello aethers, i passed by maribor again on thursday -evening. most of the artists for the luna park workshop are now already at pekarna. this time i spoke to another french guy, also one of the organizers and he promised that me that they would answer our mails very soon... he said that they are all very busy coordinating all the artists, and have little time to answer e-mails, but still i hope that we will get an answer soon. in general i think that we should continue working on the script for 7-7-7. i think this is a script that could be used again also in future performances. if there won't be a live-performance, i would still like to do the event as a jamsession. cym On 6/30/07, 1.1 [*] 1904.cc <1.1 [*] 1904.cc> wrote: > dear fellow aethernauts, > > a short update concerning upcoming events: > > - we received today a VERY short notice invitation for aether9 to > participate in a semi-private event of lectures/performances, taking > place in Rotterdam 1st and 2nd of July, organised by some students at > Piet Zwart Institute. one of them is a friend of us so we couldnt > refuse... since it leaves very little time for preparation we (ie. me > and boris who discussed this today, since we received the invitation > today) are thinking about using a reduced setup, like 3 active frames > (gva + brussels + ...), for a 10-15 minute live transmission. . it > will occur on monday, 2nd july, around 19:30 pm in Rotterdam (UTC+2). > any participation is welcome of course. it will be fun anyway. > location in Rotterdam: conference room of Hotel New York. > > - 7.7.7 : no news for the 7th july event (from berkeley nor from > maribor) but that shouldn't stop us. > > - there's a possibility of aetheric intervention during an event in > Bulgaria, Net User 4 international working camp. quoting the info > blurb: "The working camp will explore various issues around the theme > of Networking or how do people living in the technological era > develop and use the network technologies." The whole thing takes > place in a mountain resort, Pleven Hovel, 1504 meters above sea > level. The idea is not to go there, but to make an entirely > telepresent performance. Duration, setup etc is open to discussion. > Dates: 16-22 July 2007. I contacted the organiser (InterSpace > Association), they're very interested. link: www.netuser.bg > > that's it for the moment... > best, > manuel > > ps: feed the wiki: > http://1904.cc/timeline/ > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Sat Jun 30 19:03:48 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:03:48 +0200 Subject: [aether] wiki login In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: the login window should appear in the upper right corner of the page. if for some reason creating the account doesnt work, just use aether/******** as user/password combination. best, manuel > >I tried to access the wiki but I'm not getting a login >or I just don't see the edit button/link. >thanks for starting the script boris, nathalie... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: hi all, another info update: implementation of audio for the next aether performance is in testing phase... i just set up an mp3 streaming channel on giss.tv direct adress: http://giss.tv:8000/aether.mp3 (can be opened in VLC or other audio players) to embed this into a HTML page, it seems the easyest way is to use "Web Music Player", a small flash mp3 audio player. you can check here how it looks/sounds: http://1904.cc/aether/live/audio.html potentially i could make the player so small that it will be invisible. the tool i used: http://musicplayer.sourceforge.net/ and to stream the sound i use for the moment a max/msp patch, with the shoutcast~ object (from http://www.akustische-kunst.org/maxmsp/ ). it would be possible to send the sound from any shoutcast-enabled software (also puredata of course). if any of you wants to try streaming sound, tell me and i send you the login info. best, manuel From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Sat Jun 30 20:54:59 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (JuJu Nylon) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 11:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 2, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <939465.38287.qm {a+} web62302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> 10,000 thanks for the welcome. i am currently in LA. It is interesting to organize this with so many of us in motion. I am unsure of what i can do by 7707 and not clear at all on so many other things..... like what aether was/is as established as before I joined you. Maybe a phone call is the easy way to sort this out. Christiaan, when are you free PST? I just sought a skype connection with you. aether/******** is the password to which project wiki and where exactly? May I suggest that the scripting style/code/language is kept simple; I am focusing on too many things at once to write in something which looks like concrete poetry. Once scripting these events becomes familiar, I would love the idea of a script-making as a stand alone graphic. A mono MP3 is not going to sound better than a phone call. If that is what i can do; I can record a VOIP call made through my Gizmoproject.com accnt and attach the resultant file to the project as streamed. It is a solution that is do-able even 7 times. This would add a spoken word layer that is not live but can be intimate and engaging. I do not have recording equipment with me, or any of my favorite sonic samples or my digital file HD of work I have already released. I also don't know what a ogg file is. I have MP3 of most of my (and Snatch's) previously released work on this computer though. I don't think lack or gear or lack of time and craft should be though of as any more than a shape consideration on the live events. The point is to just do it. Judy christiaan cruz wrote: P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Hope everyone is having a nice summer. Welcome Judy. still haven't heard from meredith or greg. but it sounds like people are still interested in performing on 777. I am excited to stream myself. Could we get a Cell count on who would be able to contribute to the 7 spots? To the interest in sound, would we be able to add sound to the html page with limited midi or heavly compressed mono mp3s? To keep it simple, we could upload 7 prerecorded midi or mp3 or ogg files and the page would just play them in an order that works for the script. it sounds like everyone likes the new free script format? here are examples of formulas you could write into the script http://www.math.utah.edu/~pa/math/equations/equations.html Anthony Braxton would write such mystical graphical titles that explained his pieces. an example would be something like this to explain brightness contrast placement etc. but its all free to the artists interpretation. (7) X \ / (42) / \ T W If I glanced at this quickly I could interpret the low W for a soft White theme with high contrast from the upper X 7 second frame changes from the upper 7 a rhythm or constant beat of 42 and a concentration on time for T or something silly like 7 + 7 = u & me in hea7en or even html codes: #2E9AFE = baby blue? We could alternatively make really strict rules for the formulas. So strict it would cause natural mistakes and errors. Everyone would just have to make sure they don't let the mistakes and errors stress them out during the performance. I tried to access the wiki but I'm not getting a login or I just don't see the edit button/link. thanks for starting the script boris, nathalie... Share award looks easy enough. Manuel, did you get a response from ACM? once I learn how to use the aether wiki maybe we could collaborate on the details of the 150 word description. a happy july to everyone, -christiaan fe2cruz to skype _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at [nospam] yahoo! Games. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070630/50b7002b/attachment.html From theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org Sat Jun 30 22:33:40 2007 From: theleague at [nospam] imaginaryscience.org (The League of Imaginary Scientists) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:33:40 -0700 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 2, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi! Elements of the League can participate out of Norway (2 of us will be there). We?re traveling with other projects and get to Trondheim the fourth of July ? we will have to cram to catch up then... BEST, Lucy On 6/29/07 10:05 PM, "christiaan cruz" wrote: > Hope everyone is having a nice summer. > Welcome Judy. > > still haven't heard from meredith or greg. but it sounds like > people are still interested in performing on 777. I am > excited to stream myself.?Could?we?get?a?Cell?count?on > who would be able to contribute to the 7 spots? > > To the interest in sound, would we be able to add sound > to the html page with limited midi or heavly compressed > mono mp3s? To keep it simple, we could upload 7 > prerecorded midi or mp3 or ogg files and the page would > just play them in an order that works for the script. > > it sounds like everyone likes the new free script format? > here are examples of formulas you could write into the script > http://www.math.utah.edu/~pa/math/equations/equations.html > > Anthony Braxton would write such mystical > graphical titles that explained his pieces. > > an example would be something like this to explain > brightness contrast placement etc. > but its all free to the artists interpretation. > > (7) ??X > ???\???/ > ???(42) > ???/ ??\ > T ??????W > > If I glanced at this quickly I could interpret > the low W for a soft White theme > with high contrast from the upper X > 7 second frame changes from the upper 7 > a rhythm?or?constant?beat?of?42 > and a concentration on time for T > > or something silly like 7 + 7 = u & me in hea7en > > or even html codes: #2E9AFE = baby blue? > > We could alternatively make really strict rules for > the formulas. So strict it would cause natural > mistakes and errors. Everyone would just have to > make sure they don't let the mistakes and errors > stress them out during the performance. > > I tried to access the wiki but I'm not getting a login > or I just don't see the edit button/link. > thanks for starting the script boris, nathalie... > > Share award looks easy enough. > Manuel, did you get a response from ACM? > once I learn how to use the aether wiki > maybe we could collaborate on the details > of the 150 word description. > > > a happy july to everyone, > -christiaan > fe2cruz > ??to skype > > > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether The League of Imaginary Scientists -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Sat Jun 30 23:54:57 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (JuJu Nylon) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] wiki login In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <456452.60294.qm {a+} web62312.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Thanks, got into the wiki. I would like to just monitor the upcoming performance; I feel that my (previous) suggestions are not attuned to what you have already built. Disregard earlier message (except my desire for a skype call). I will just watch until I catch up/understand/ how you build a script in this manner. Nylon 1.1 [*] 1904.cc wrote: the login window should appear in the upper right corner of the page. if for some reason creating the account doesnt work, just use aether/******** as user/password combination. best, manuel > >I tried to access the wiki but I'm not getting a login >or I just don't see the edit button/link. >thanks for starting the script boris, nathalie... _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070630/9222b6e8/attachment.html