From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Mon Oct 1 02:19:19 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <819082.64387.qm {a+} web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <902556.99760.qm {a+} web62303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Sorry, I've been a bit out of touch. I receive money through Pay Pal at paljudy222 at [nospam] yahoo.com Thanks, Judy laure deselys wrote: hello all, I ve got time on thursday, but i just have to find some place with the internet, since mine is not working again until the 6th. bis bald laure. --- 1.1 [*] 1904.cc schrieb: > dear fellow aethernauts, > > as you maybe know, in a week will be the > Internation Sputnik Day - 50th anniversary of > throwing the first satellite into orbit, on 4th > of october. > > i was thinking that that could be a good date for > a next aether9-session. several other spontanic > events / performances are going to happen that > day, see http://sputnik.irmielin.org/ > > there are some new things on the way, if you > check http://1904.cc/aether/live/ there is a > version where some live webcam images are > integrated. we'll see if this can be > interesting/useful in performance. > > in the "random viewer window", the position of > the images changes randomly, but there are always > five images present (so it would be possible to > assign them for a performance), presently : > 1. 1904.cc:ONE - ftp://1904.cc/1/ > 3. im.science:THREE - ftp://imaginaryscience.org/3/ > 5. 10111:FIVE - ftp://10111.org/web/5/ > 7. artmedia:SEVEN - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/7/ > 8. artmedia:EIGHT - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/8/ > > > and something else > one of the greatest (pseudo)science websites > about the properties of aether which i found so > far: > http://www.glafreniere.com/ > > contains absolutely gorgeous animated graphics.. > > see especially: > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_aether.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_electron.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_conclusion.htm > > some quotes: > "This site does not explain how aether works. Any > medium capable of transmitting longitudinal waves > could do the job. (...) This web site shows that > aether exists and that the light is made of > waves. Photons do not exist. So Descartes was > right. (...) You are not entitled to think that > aether does not exist. (...) Up to now, > Descartes' explanation about light remains the > only one which is acceptable." > > "This web site postulates that matter is made of > "moving standing waves" and that all forces are > waves. Those waves need an aether. In addition, > Relativity was discovered by Lorentz and Poincar? > in 1904. Not by Albert Einstein. Their original > version, especially Lorentz's, admits the > existence of the aether. Lorentz never discarded > the existence of aether until his death in 1928." > > there's more of this, and those theories seem to > me quite interesting base material for our > performance-in-progress.. getting a bit back to > the aether topic, scientific experimentation > rendered visually, etc.. > > please react on this, specially about the > possible mini-performance on 4th october. Will be > travelling for the three next days, with sporadic > internet access. Then ca. two weeks, to work more > intesively on aether9, then one week for a > project in belgrade and prishtina (remotely > connected to aether too, consisting in a live > video-link between those two capitals..) > > that's it for now, > best, > > manuel > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > Wissenswertes zum Thema PC, Zubeh?r oder Programme. 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070930/edcd37ea/attachment.html From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Mon Oct 1 10:58:06 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:58:06 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [aether] RE : sputnik memorial day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <985671.43397.qm {a+} web26104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hi thanks Manuel i saw this Sputnik day, a good date for a random jam session but now i'm in orbit too.. i'm leaving paris, so unfortunately not time to participate with you to this session until the 15 october ok i'll send you later my new reference bank there write you soon cheers Nathalie --- 1.1 [*] 1904.cc a ?crit : > dear fellow aethernauts, > > as you maybe know, in a week will be the > Internation Sputnik Day - 50th anniversary of > throwing the first satellite into orbit, on 4th > of october. > > i was thinking that that could be a good date for > a next aether9-session. several other spontanic > events / performances are going to happen that > day, see http://sputnik.irmielin.org/ > > there are some new things on the way, if you > check http://1904.cc/aether/live/ there is a > version where some live webcam images are > integrated. we'll see if this can be > interesting/useful in performance. > > in the "random viewer window", the position of > the images changes randomly, but there are always > five images present (so it would be possible to > assign them for a performance), presently : > 1. 1904.cc:ONE - ftp://1904.cc/1/ > 3. im.science:THREE - ftp://imaginaryscience.org/3/ > 5. 10111:FIVE - ftp://10111.org/web/5/ > 7. artmedia:SEVEN - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/7/ > 8. artmedia:EIGHT - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/8/ > > > and something else > one of the greatest (pseudo)science websites > about the properties of aether which i found so > far: > http://www.glafreniere.com/ > > contains absolutely gorgeous animated graphics.. > > see especially: > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_aether.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_electron.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_conclusion.htm > > some quotes: > "This site does not explain how aether works. Any > medium capable of transmitting longitudinal waves > could do the job. (...) This web site shows that > aether exists and that the light is made of > waves. Photons do not exist. So Descartes was > right. (...) You are not entitled to think that > aether does not exist. (...) Up to now, > Descartes' explanation about light remains the > only one which is acceptable." > > "This web site postulates that matter is made of > "moving standing waves" and that all forces are > waves. Those waves need an aether. In addition, > Relativity was discovered by Lorentz and Poincar? > in 1904. Not by Albert Einstein. Their original > version, especially Lorentz's, admits the > existence of the aether. Lorentz never discarded > the existence of aether until his death in 1928." > > there's more of this, and those theories seem to > me quite interesting base material for our > performance-in-progress.. getting a bit back to > the aether topic, scientific experimentation > rendered visually, etc.. > > please react on this, specially about the > possible mini-performance on 4th october. Will be > travelling for the three next days, with sporadic > internet access. Then ca. two weeks, to work more > intesively on aether9, then one week for a > project in belgrade and prishtina (remotely > connected to aether too, consisting in a live > video-link between those two capitals..) > > that's it for now, > best, > > manuel > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > _____________________________________________________________________________ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! 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Mail From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Wed Oct 3 00:48:02 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:48:02 -0500 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: manuel: j'ai d?j? utilis? paypal une seule fois pour acheter un engin. je vais voir comment ?a marche pour te donner les coordonn?es. ?a fais quand m?me un moment que je ne parrticipe pas, m?me si je suis vachement interess? de faire de nouveau des sceances de streeming, de test, et meme de voir comment marchen les nouveaux patches developp?s pour toi, pour le son et l'image. je vais m'inscrire ? la liste autrement, que le mails arrivent ? chaque fois que quelqu'un en ?cris un. c'est dificile de les lire tous d'aun coup. comme le dernier temps j'ai eu pas mal de performance, je n'ai pas pu me concentrer beaucoup dans les dernier mails. j'ai vu le sputnik memorial day, mais pas pu me brancher a la question pour avoir d'autres affaires maleureussement. alors... je te dirai pour paypal, et je souhaite me connecter ? nouveau avec vous. paula El 1/10/2007, a las 5:00, aether-request at [nospam] 1904.cc escribi?: > Send aether mailing list submissions to > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > aether-request at [nospam] 1904.cc > > You can reach the person managing the list at > aether-owner at [nospam] 1904.cc > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of aether digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: reminder: finances (laure deselys) > 2. Re: (no subject) (laure deselys) > 3. Re: (no subject) (Judy Nylon) > 4. RE : sputnik memorial day (fougeras nathalie) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:42:23 +0200 (CEST) > From: laure deselys > Subject: Re: [aether] reminder: finances > To: //// collaborative networked performance //// > Message-ID: <827265.54473.qm at web26712.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > salut, > > Est-ce que ces r?f?rences te suffisent ? > Mlle L. de Selys > n? 676--3237101-80 > IBAN: BE47 6763 2371 0180 > BIC: DEGRBEBB > > Je ne suis pas ? la page en mati?re d Paypal or > Moneybookers.com > mais essaierai de l'?tre pour la prochaine fois > et quand tu demandes une adresse email pour verser > l'argent, je ne vois pas exactement non plus. > > Mais si ?a ne va pas, je trouverai. > > > b?t > > laure > --- 1.1 [*] 1904.cc schrieb: > >> >>> For the record, at this point while there is so >> little money....I'm >>> with Manu...just divide it up and give it out. >> >> right, actually we still didnt' do that, so let's >> finish with it. >> >> as said, i'm for applying democratically the >> distribution scheme >> suggested by boris: >> >>> 1 x 40 credits (to Manu) >>> 4 x 30 credits (to Audrey, Laure, Chris & Boris) >>> 7 x 20 credits (to Lucy, Nathalie, Cym, Judy, >> Paula, Luka & Alejo) >> >> so, Audrey, Laure, Chris, Boris, Lucy, Nathalie, >> Cym, Judy, Paula, Luka, Alejo >> >> tell me: >> - your preference between Paypal or Moneybookers.com >> - the email adress to which i should send the >> payment. >> >> if you didn't use yet one of those systems, this >> will be the occasion >> to check how it really works. >> for the record, for transfers of less than 50 EUR, >> paypal is more >> economic than moneybookers. above, moneybookers is >> cheaper (the >> highest transfer fee is 2,30 EUR). >> >> best, >> m. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aether mailing list >> aether at [nospam] 1904.cc >> http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether >> > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Clever - Der einfachste Weg, Fragen zu stellen und > Wissenswertes mit Anderen zu teilen. www.yahoo.de/clever > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:07:00 +0200 (CEST) > From: laure deselys > Subject: Re: [aether] (no subject) > To: //// collaborative networked performance //// > Message-ID: <819082.64387.qm at web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > hello all, > > I ve got time on thursday, but i just have to find > some place with the internet, since mine is not > working again until the 6th. > > bis bald > > laure. > > > --- 1.1 [*] 1904.cc schrieb: > >> dear fellow aethernauts, >> >> as you maybe know, in a week will be the >> Internation Sputnik Day - 50th anniversary of >> throwing the first satellite into orbit, on 4th >> of october. >> >> i was thinking that that could be a good date for >> a next aether9-session. several other spontanic >> events / performances are going to happen that >> day, see http://sputnik.irmielin.org/ >> >> there are some new things on the way, if you >> check http://1904.cc/aether/live/ there is a >> version where some live webcam images are >> integrated. we'll see if this can be >> interesting/useful in performance. >> >> in the "random viewer window", the position of >> the images changes randomly, but there are always >> five images present (so it would be possible to >> assign them for a performance), presently : >> 1. 1904.cc:ONE - ftp://1904.cc/1/ >> 3. im.science:THREE - ftp://imaginaryscience.org/3/ >> 5. 10111:FIVE - ftp://10111.org/web/5/ >> 7. artmedia:SEVEN - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/7/ >> 8. artmedia:EIGHT - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/8/ >> >> >> and something else >> one of the greatest (pseudo)science websites >> about the properties of aether which i found so >> far: >> http://www.glafreniere.com/ >> >> contains absolutely gorgeous animated graphics.. >> >> see especially: >> http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_aether.htm >> http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm >> http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_electron.htm >> http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_conclusion.htm >> >> some quotes: >> "This site does not explain how aether works. Any >> medium capable of transmitting longitudinal waves >> could do the job. (...) This web site shows that >> aether exists and that the light is made of >> waves. Photons do not exist. So Descartes was >> right. (...) You are not entitled to think that >> aether does not exist. (...) Up to now, >> Descartes' explanation about light remains the >> only one which is acceptable." >> >> "This web site postulates that matter is made of >> "moving standing waves" and that all forces are >> waves. Those waves need an aether. In addition, >> Relativity was discovered by Lorentz and Poincar? >> in 1904. Not by Albert Einstein. Their original >> version, especially Lorentz's, admits the >> existence of the aether. Lorentz never discarded >> the existence of aether until his death in 1928." >> >> there's more of this, and those theories seem to >> me quite interesting base material for our >> performance-in-progress.. getting a bit back to >> the aether topic, scientific experimentation >> rendered visually, etc.. >> >> please react on this, specially about the >> possible mini-performance on 4th october. Will be >> travelling for the three next days, with sporadic >> internet access. Then ca. two weeks, to work more >> intesively on aether9, then one week for a >> project in belgrade and prishtina (remotely >> connected to aether too, consisting in a live >> video-link between those two capitals..) >> >> that's it for now, >> best, >> >> manuel >> _______________________________________________ >> aether mailing list >> aether at [nospam] 1904.cc >> http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether >> > > > > Wissenswertes zum Thema PC, Zubeh?r oder Programme. BE A > BETTER INTERNET-GURU! www.yahoo.de/clever > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:19:19 -0700 (PDT) > From: Judy Nylon > Subject: Re: [aether] (no subject) > To: //// collaborative networked performance //// > Message-ID: <902556.99760.qm at web62303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Sorry, I've been a bit out of touch. I receive money through Pay > Pal at paljudy222 at [nospam] yahoo.com > > Thanks, Judy > > laure deselys wrote: hello all, > > I ve got time on thursday, but i just have to find > some place with the internet, since mine is not > working again until the 6th. > > bis bald > > laure. > > > --- 1.1 [*] 1904.cc schrieb: > >> dear fellow aethernauts, >> >> as you maybe know, in a week will be the >> Internation Sputnik Day - 50th anniversary of >> throwing the first satellite into orbit, on 4th >> of october. >> >> i was thinking that that could be a good date for >> a next aether9-session. several other spontanic >> events / performances are going to happen that >> day, see http://sputnik.irmielin.org/ >> >> there are some new things on the way, if you >> check http://1904.cc/aether/live/ there is a >> version where some live webcam images are >> integrated. we'll see if this can be >> interesting/useful in performance. >> >> in the "random viewer window", the position of >> the images changes randomly, but there are always >> five images present (so it would be possible to >> assign them for a performance), presently : >> 1. 1904.cc:ONE - ftp://1904.cc/1/ >> 3. im.science:THREE - ftp://imaginaryscience.org/3/ >> 5. 10111:FIVE - ftp://10111.org/web/5/ >> 7. artmedia:SEVEN - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/7/ >> 8. artmedia:EIGHT - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/8/ >> >> >> and something else >> one of the greatest (pseudo)science websites >> about the properties of aether which i found so >> far: >> http://www.glafreniere.com/ >> >> contains absolutely gorgeous animated graphics.. >> >> see especially: >> http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_aether.htm >> http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm >> http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_electron.htm >> http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_conclusion.htm >> >> some quotes: >> "This site does not explain how aether works. Any >> medium capable of transmitting longitudinal waves >> could do the job. (...) This web site shows that >> aether exists and that the light is made of >> waves. Photons do not exist. So Descartes was >> right. (...) You are not entitled to think that >> aether does not exist. (...) Up to now, >> Descartes' explanation about light remains the >> only one which is acceptable." >> >> "This web site postulates that matter is made of >> "moving standing waves" and that all forces are >> waves. Those waves need an aether. In addition, >> Relativity was discovered by Lorentz and Poincar? >> in 1904. Not by Albert Einstein. Their original >> version, especially Lorentz's, admits the >> existence of the aether. Lorentz never discarded >> the existence of aether until his death in 1928." >> >> there's more of this, and those theories seem to >> me quite interesting base material for our >> performance-in-progress.. getting a bit back to >> the aether topic, scientific experimentation >> rendered visually, etc.. >> >> please react on this, specially about the >> possible mini-performance on 4th october. Will be >> travelling for the three next days, with sporadic >> internet access. Then ca. two weeks, to work more >> intesively on aether9, then one week for a >> project in belgrade and prishtina (remotely >> connected to aether too, consisting in a live >> video-link between those two capitals..) >> >> that's it for now, >> best, >> >> manuel >> _______________________________________________ >> aether mailing list >> aether at [nospam] 1904.cc >> http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether >> > > > > Wissenswertes zum Thema PC, Zubeh?r oder Programme. BE A > BETTER INTERNET-GURU! www.yahoo.de/clever > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > > --------------------------------- > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s > user panel and lay it on us. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070930/ > edcd37ea/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:58:06 +0200 (CEST) > From: fougeras nathalie > Subject: [aether] RE : sputnik memorial day > To: //// collaborative networked performance //// > Message-ID: <985671.43397.qm at web26104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > hi > > thanks Manuel i saw this Sputnik day, a good date for > a random jam session > but now i'm in orbit too.. i'm leaving paris, so > unfortunately not time to participate with you to this > session until the 15 october > > ok i'll send you later my new reference bank there > > write you soon > cheers > Nathalie > > > --- 1.1 [*] 1904.cc a ?crit : > >> dear fellow aethernauts, >> >> as you maybe know, in a week will be the >> Internation Sputnik Day - 50th anniversary of >> throwing the first satellite into orbit, on 4th >> of october. >> >> i was thinking that that could be a good date for >> a next aether9-session. several other spontanic >> events / performances are going to happen that >> day, see http://sputnik.irmielin.org/ >> >> there are some new things on the way, if you >> check http://1904.cc/aether/live/ there is a >> version where some live webcam images are >> integrated. we'll see if this can be >> interesting/useful in performance. >> >> in the "random viewer window", the position of >> the images changes randomly, but there are always >> five images present (so it would be possible to >> assign them for a performance), presently : >> 1. 1904.cc:ONE - ftp://1904.cc/1/ >> 3. im.science:THREE - ftp://imaginaryscience.org/3/ >> 5. 10111:FIVE - ftp://10111.org/web/5/ >> 7. artmedia:SEVEN - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/7/ >> 8. artmedia:EIGHT - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/8/ >> >> >> and something else >> one of the greatest (pseudo)science websites >> about the properties of aether which i found so >> far: >> http://www.glafreniere.com/ >> >> contains absolutely gorgeous animated graphics.. >> >> see especially: >> http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_aether.htm >> http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm >> http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_electron.htm >> http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_conclusion.htm >> >> some quotes: >> "This site does not explain how aether works. Any >> medium capable of transmitting longitudinal waves >> could do the job. (...) This web site shows that >> aether exists and that the light is made of >> waves. Photons do not exist. So Descartes was >> right. (...) You are not entitled to think that >> aether does not exist. (...) Up to now, >> Descartes' explanation about light remains the >> only one which is acceptable." >> >> "This web site postulates that matter is made of >> "moving standing waves" and that all forces are >> waves. Those waves need an aether. In addition, >> Relativity was discovered by Lorentz and Poincar? >> in 1904. Not by Albert Einstein. Their original >> version, especially Lorentz's, admits the >> existence of the aether. Lorentz never discarded >> the existence of aether until his death in 1928." >> >> there's more of this, and those theories seem to >> me quite interesting base material for our >> performance-in-progress.. getting a bit back to >> the aether topic, scientific experimentation >> rendered visually, etc.. >> >> please react on this, specially about the >> possible mini-performance on 4th october. Will be >> travelling for the three next days, with sporadic >> internet access. Then ca. two weeks, to work more >> intesively on aether9, then one week for a >> project in belgrade and prishtina (remotely >> connected to aether too, consisting in a live >> video-link between those two capitals..) >> >> that's it for now, >> best, >> >> manuel >> _______________________________________________ >> aether mailing list >> aether at [nospam] 1904.cc >> http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether >> > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______ > Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers > Yahoo! Mail > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > End of aether Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 > ************************************ From ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca Wed Oct 3 01:18:31 2007 From: ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca (::audrey::) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 16:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] 26 october -- gig in rotterdam -- who's down? Message-ID: <578123.37132.qm {a+} web50202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> hello aethernauts, i'm about to hop on a plane so i'll make it brief for now, just sending out a 'feeler'. some friends/colleagues and i are hosting an evening {a+} WORM (wormweb.nl) on october the 26th. the theme is streaming and it's 'delay' (playing with that, reflecting upon it, etc). i proposed an aether9 performance as it would be fitting with the theme. i haven't been up to date with the script wiki of late, but as a first thought i considered the initial tesla/aether narrative/script to be the most fitting. we also had another thought. to add a spin on the usual solitude of the remote performers and playing with this idea of delay, we thought of having a musician/dj playing music 'in situ' according to the performances on screen. the audio would not be directly fed to the audience but rather streamed to the remote performers and then 're-streamed' back into the space. in this sense the audio would be delayed and the quality lowered to reflect our low-fi set-up as well as issues of streaming (making transparent it's limitations). so, what do you all think? who is available on those dates? nicola unger has offered to do the 'in situ' performance with me {a+} WORM. as such, i have cc'ed her and think she should be added to the mailing list to keep up with the discussion. more soon from montreal in 36 hours +... i'll also be in zagreb (most probably from the 11-15) if anyone happens to be around to meet up. audrey|idea... ps nicola: aether9: http://1904.cc/aether/ -- project wiki: http://1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=%C3%A6ther9 Obtenez des r?ponses ? vos questions ! 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In-Reply-To: <578123.37132.qm {a+} web50202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <578123.37132.qm {a+} web50202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: thanks audrey for that proposal, obviously the Sputnik day is too short term for anyone, but 26th october sounds good, at least to me. i like the delayed soundtrack concept, and this would be an occasion to use the Pd streaming patches... so now, back to our nikola tesla studies! i'd find interesting to involve a bit more historical fact... best, manuel ps: zagreb - will be in belgrade from 16-22 oct, but that's not exactly so close.. >hello aethernauts, >i'm about to hop on a plane so i'll make it brief for now, just >sending out a 'feeler'. some friends/colleagues and i are hosting an >evening {a+} WORM (wormweb.nl) on october the 26th. the theme is >streaming and it's 'delay' (playing with that, reflecting upon it, >etc). >i proposed an aether9 performance as it would be fitting with the >theme. i haven't been up to date with the script wiki of late, but >as a first thought i considered the initial tesla/aether >narrative/script to be the most fitting. we also had another >thought. to add a spin on the usual solitude of the remote >performers and playing with this idea of delay, we thought of having >a musician/dj playing music 'in situ' according to the performances >on screen. the audio would not be directly fed to the audience but >rather streamed to the remote performers and then 're-streamed' back >into the space. in this sense the audio would be delayed and the >quality lowered to reflect our low-fi set-up as well as issues of >streaming (making transparent it's limitations). >so, what do you all think? who is available on those dates? >nicola unger has offered to do the 'in situ' performance with me {a+} >WORM. as such, i have cc'ed her and think she should be added to the >mailing list to keep up with the discussion. >more soon from montreal in 36 hours +... >i'll also be in zagreb (most probably from the 11-15) if anyone >happens to be around to meet up. >audrey|idea... >ps nicola: >aether9: http://1904.cc/aether/ -- project >wiki: >http://1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=%C3%A6ther9 > > From lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de Wed Oct 3 13:15:44 2007 From: lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de (laure deselys) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:15:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [aether] 26 october -- gig in rotterdam -- who's down? In-Reply-To: <578123.37132.qm {a+} web50202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <820639.61043.qm {a+} web26703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Unfortunatly i will take a plane on the 26th to LAx so i will not be part of the performance i guess Boris will be in the same situation than I, although his plane is at a different time too bad, sounds very very exciting im saying it in advance; please archive it I will participate on the wiki iam ok with continuing with aether/tesla but i think we should better keep the aether as the main character instead of over-personificate nikola tesla the strange aether element meets nikola tesla on its way and not opposite i will be on the "chains of air, web of aether",( name of a short story from Philip.K Dick that i read some time ago) I mean on the net tomorrow night so if anyone wants to try something or chat laure P.S: i have a huge flew and in order to keep breathing with the nose im inhalating something that i got from the chemists and which component among other are ethereal cypress oil, ethereal myrcea oil and ethereal lavender oil. i am actually entering the headache phase... : audrey: : Tue Oct 2 23: 18: 31 at [nospam] yahoo.com, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS_IN_GROUP at .SYNTAX-ERROR.;;;;;, "::audrey::" schrieb: hello aethernauts, i'm about to hop on a plane so i'll make it brief for now, just sending out a 'feeler'. some friends/colleagues and i are hosting an evening {a+} WORM (wormweb.nl) on october the 26th. the theme is streaming and it's 'delay' (playing with that, reflecting upon it, etc). i proposed an aether9 performance as it would be fitting with the theme. i haven't been up to date with the script wiki of late, but as a first thought i considered the initial tesla/aether narrative/script to be the most fitting. we also had another thought. to add a spin on the usual solitude of the remote performers and playing with this idea of delay, we thought of having a musician/dj playing music 'in situ' according to the performances on screen. the audio would not be directly fed to the audience but rather streamed to the remote performers and then 're-streamed' back into the space. in this sense the audio would be delayed and the quality lowered to reflect our low-fi set-up as well as issues of streaming (making transparent it's limitations). so, what do you all think? who is available on those dates? nicola unger has offered to do the 'in situ' performance with me {a+} WORM. as such, i have cc'ed her and think she should be added to the mailing list to keep up with the discussion. more soon from montreal in 36 hours +... i'll also be in zagreb (most probably from the 11-15) if anyone happens to be around to meet up. audrey|idea... ps nicola: aether9: http://1904.cc/aether/ -- project wiki: http://1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=%C3%A6ther9 --------------------------------- Obtenez des r?ponses ? vos questions ! 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In the window that opens then, double-click the "p input_" box that matches your system (OSX or Win). This opens a big complicated-looking patch window.. Click on the two buttons called "getvdevlist" and "getinputlist" ... this will create two menus which allow you to select the video input: - the menu on the left will show things like "DV video", "IIDC firewire video", "USB video class video"... - the menu on the right will show the devices that are actually connected, such as "iSight", "MVX460" for my cheap DV camera... just try everything, until you get an image! here's an explanation of the "jit.grab open" messages, the first number seems to be a device number, the second tells if the device is working or not: "jit.grab: open n 0" => could not find the camera "jit.grab: open n 1" => camera is working and finally, you can get here the current version of the upload patch (v.117): http://www.1904.cc/~aether/kode/max_image_upload/ no big changes, only the interface got a bit more clean.. and note that there's even a README file included! best, manu From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Sat Oct 6 18:33:52 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 18:33:52 +0200 Subject: [aether] more archives online Message-ID: hi all, audrey, more details about the upcoming 26th october event? is it confirmed? in the meantime, i want to let you know that some archives of the most recent performances are online: http://1904.cc/~aether/videos/2007.07.19_pleven_hotel_bulgaria/ (more to come, still on DV tape) http://1904.cc/~aether/videos/2007.10.04_sputnik_day/ (a little improvisation) and i just managed to understand how to put files on sourceforge.net... so now the most recent max/jitter patch can be downloaded here: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=204033 how cool is that? best, manuel From ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca Sat Oct 6 18:56:29 2007 From: ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca (::audrey::) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] Re : more archives online Message-ID: <408252.70382.qm {a+} web50207.mail.re2.yahoo.com> >audrey, more details about the upcoming 26th october event? >is it confirmed? yes yes confirmed! who can participate? how many squares shalll we have?< i like laure`s idea of concentrating on aether and have tesla as a 'guest' (visited by aether). is our mailing list closed? or open? so nicola can join and keep up with conversations upcoming event. we are trying to find someone to do the music-audio ... the idea i mentionned about streaming audio from there, to participants, and back into the room... no one confirmed thus far. do we have a backup audio streamer available - i know boris and laure are in transit so not available... i`m off to a chalet for a couple of days, more upon return. so who?s in??? audrey D?couvrez ce qui fait jaser les gens ! 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(will be difficult keeping them apart) >we are trying to find someone to do the music-audio ... the idea i >mentionned about streaming audio from there, to participants, and >back into the room... no one confirmed thus far. do we have a backup >audio streamer available - i know boris and laure are in transit so >not available... i confirm that i think it's an interesting idea.. what we know is that: -streaming via giss.tv works quite reliably, both boris and nathalie were streaming sound that way during recent performances.. -streaming from a home-based computer/server is possible, i can do it from my computer for instance, but it needs quite a bit of doctoring so not everybody will have the time and nerves to do it... but if two performers re-broadcast the stream that's already not bad, i think.. if there would be more streamers that wouldn't change much, except make it even more sound like a mess... ;). best, m ps: it would be good to have some more infos about the conditions: - what's the time/duration? - what are the other acts / performers scheduled on this evening? - who's doing the promotion (mail/flyers/press etc)? - is there a fee for us artists, %on the entries, % on the bar or whatever? pps: here's the page of the event on WORM's website: http://www.wormweb.nl/agenda.php?id=1235 "A programme about streaming, in order to introduce the new Rotterdam ArtLab 'Labouretum Lumbrici'. Besides the Filmwerkplaats (film studio) and the WORM-CEMstudio, we are happy to present (at last) an ArtLab, this time not devoted to the new media, but specifically to the old. Beyond zeroes and ones, into the world of copper wires, transistors and maybe even the occasional dab of paint or rusty nail. Or, as we like to tell each other over our morning coffee: "We love the smell of burning S-39 in the morning". And by the way, let those robotics all get a second life in google earth." From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Sun Oct 7 17:01:06 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] Re : oct. 26th & Judy update thru mid Nov In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <60634.42740.qm {a+} web62313.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Update as related to Aether: Because of the possibility of live streaming multisource audio now, I have lined up a gift of Abelton and a huge database of MP3s (I have been sloppy about my own iTunes imports & it is easier to get an external data base than sort through millions of badly titled work fragments). This shortly faces the test, as I am DJing a night in the East End of London in Early Nov. This party/evening is for me, assisted by a music biz production team, a band called The Horror, and is intended to set the stage for a relaunch of recordings I own as well as the (for lack of a better descriptor) ?punk tulpa? I left in London circa 1984 with some new interviews and a photo session. If I can DJ with Abelton on the fly, I will do so for Aether anytime, as required, from now on. Otherwise, if the soft is too clumsy, I am quite certain that the new NewmarkiDJ2 will facilitate this in a very flexi situ. All of this gear is half the price in NYC. Manu, if you get the residency, leave room in your suitcase! I have 20 (minus 3 during which I am at a writers? retreat in the Adirondack Mountains) days to get it and learn it so the Tesla performance on the 26th is again not possible for me. I will be in London (through mid-Nov) as a guest for the Sex Pistols and am considering a commission to write about it as long as I can write about the phenomenon of this reunion and not be expected to give a ?music review?. However with regard to stills or camera footage .I am right now only a few blocks from Tesla?s studio on Bleeker Street NYC. Some of the architectural detail photographed here might be useful. I am also not short of either Pigeons or Pearls ..if there is any script directive, I can snap and send. The last Aether note is: we have had issues with scripts. I applied and am still in the running for a year of mentoring at the Public Theater (Joseph Papp?s). They are only choosing 10 of 650 applications so I am not holding my breath, but I am in a smaller group of those seeking to develop theater for new applications. I am still uncomfortable with the tech I have and a public facing arts practice is hard to turn around quickly, but I am inspired with the possibilities we have and just wanted to give you some glimpse of the scheduling and the insane juggling involved to run it on a dollar and a dream. JUDY 1.1 [*] 1904.cc wrote: >yes yes confirmed! good! >who can participate? how many squares shalll we have?< as far as i understood, me and paula are positive so far >i like laure`s idea of concentrating on aether and have tesla as a >'guest' (visited by aether). >is our mailing list closed? or open? so nicola can join and keep up >with conversations upcoming event. yeah, anybody can subscribe, here: http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether speaking of nicola unger i suppose, not tesla ? (will be difficult keeping them apart) >we are trying to find someone to do the music-audio ... the idea i >mentionned about streaming audio from there, to participants, and >back into the room... no one confirmed thus far. do we have a backup >audio streamer available - i know boris and laure are in transit so >not available... i confirm that i think it's an interesting idea.. what we know is that: -streaming via giss.tv works quite reliably, both boris and nathalie were streaming sound that way during recent performances.. -streaming from a home-based computer/server is possible, i can do it from my computer for instance, but it needs quite a bit of doctoring so not everybody will have the time and nerves to do it... but if two performers re-broadcast the stream that's already not bad, i think.. if there would be more streamers that wouldn't change much, except make it even more sound like a mess... ;). best, m ps: it would be good to have some more infos about the conditions: - what's the time/duration? - what are the other acts / performers scheduled on this evening? - who's doing the promotion (mail/flyers/press etc)? - is there a fee for us artists, %on the entries, % on the bar or whatever? pps: here's the page of the event on WORM's website: http://www.wormweb.nl/agenda.php?id=1235 "A programme about streaming, in order to introduce the new Rotterdam ArtLab 'Labouretum Lumbrici'. Besides the Filmwerkplaats (film studio) and the WORM-CEMstudio, we are happy to present (at last) an ArtLab, this time not devoted to the new media, but specifically to the old. Beyond zeroes and ones, into the world of copper wires, transistors and maybe even the occasional dab of paint or rusty nail. Or, as we like to tell each other over our morning coffee: "We love the smell of burning S-39 in the morning". And by the way, let those robotics all get a second life in google earth." _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at [nospam] yahoo! Games. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071007/d26932f1/attachment.html From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Sun Oct 7 21:24:40 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:24:40 -0700 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm in audio, box, whatever you need streaming remotely that is just let me know -christiaan From ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca Mon Oct 8 15:56:12 2007 From: ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca (::audrey::) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] Tr. : aether Message-ID: <910925.67912.qm {a+} web50201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> nicola i forward your message to the list and i include manuel's last mail at the bottom with the link for the mailing list subscription - the current stuff regarding script, etc is here: http://1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=%C3%A6ther9 i'll be back online tuesday night rotterdam time, on skype also if anyone can make it. i am ideacritik on skype. a ps since only manuel and paula have confirmed i propose a 3 square performance - this way we can also really work on communication between squares (only left or right side to reckon with). pps nicola: could you bring these questions up at the meeting tomorow -- (from email below): ps: it would be good to have some more infos about the conditions: - what's the time/duration? - what are the other acts / performers scheduled on this evening? - who's doing the promotion (mail/flyers/press etc)? - is there a fee for us artists, %on the entries, % on the bar or whatever? ----- Message transf?r? ---- De : nicola unger ? : ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca Envoy? le : dimanche 7 octobre 2007, 04 h 36 min 35 s Objet : aether hi audrey, sorry for being a bit late about aether: no, i have not received any emails from their list. i thought 2 things: if you guys are working with a script, could you send it to me? i could have a look and maybe have some (theater) scripting/writing ideas that can help with understanding (i remember you said that ppl do not always get what is happening)... i also get an impression and i can start thinking about performance part... in the beginning, especially when you said puppets to use with that setup, i thought of my paper thingies (they are just nice characters, i have many different ones and could make more/others quickly) and with these refreshing jpges, it could look more like an animation, that could be fun. ( but maybe goes to far?) also, these characters can be emailed, printed, then everyone is using the same, if needed... well just an idea. i am also happy to do life body body performing, but i thought this is also a nice idea... and style wise is a bit different... (down here is a link of a paper/photograph work) enjoy chalets, forests, horserides and foxhunting and be gentle to the bears! and the beavers!!! ;) nicola ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Nicola Unger Handelsplein 49 3071 PR Rotterdam +31-630357954(mob) +31-108442414 +49-1634353412(mob) http://www.zeebelt.nl/DarkSide_Hausbenzin.htm http://www.slashseconds.org/issues/002/002/articles/dtoomato/index.php ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ******** manuel's mail to the list: >yes yes confirmed! good! >who can participate? how many squares shalll we have?< as far as i understood, me and paula are positive so far >i like laure`s idea of concentrating on aether and have tesla as a >'guest' (visited by aether). >is our mailing list closed? or open? so nicola can join and keep up >with conversations upcoming event. yeah, anybody can subscribe, here: http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether speaking of nicola unger i suppose, not tesla ? (will be difficult keeping them apart) >we are trying to find someone to do the music-audio ... the idea i >mentionned about streaming audio from there, to participants, and >back into the room... no one confirmed thus far. do we have a backup >audio streamer available - i know boris and laure are in transit so >not available... i confirm that i think it's an interesting idea.. what we know is that: -streaming via giss.tv works quite reliably, both boris and nathalie were streaming sound that way during recent performances.. -streaming from a home-based computer/server is possible, i can do it from my computer for instance, but it needs quite a bit of doctoring so not everybody will have the time and nerves to do it... but if two performers re-broadcast the stream that's already not bad, i think.. if there would be more streamers that wouldn't change much, except make it even more sound like a mess... ;). best, m ps: it would be good to have some more infos about the conditions: - what's the time/duration? - what are the other acts / performers scheduled on this evening? - who's doing the promotion (mail/flyers/press etc)? - is there a fee for us artists, %on the entries, % on the bar or whatever? pps: here's the page of the event on WORM's website: http://www.wormweb.nl/agenda.php?id=1235 "A programme about streaming, in order to introduce the new Rotterdam ArtLab 'Labouretum Lumbrici'. Besides the Filmwerkplaats (film studio) and the WORM-CEMstudio, we are happy to present (at last) an ArtLab, this time not devoted to the new media, but specifically to the old. Beyond zeroes and ones, into the world of copper wires, transistors and maybe even the occasional dab of paint or rusty nail. Or, as we like to tell each other over our morning coffee: "We love the smell of burning S-39 in the morning". And by the way, let those robotics all get a second life in google earth." --------------- Obtenez des r?ponses ? vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances et des opinions des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/R?ponses http://fr.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42054/*http://qc.answers.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(i believe already asked) i didn't see hour either? read you soon cheers Natali --- 1.1 [*] 1904.cc a ?crit : > > >yes yes confirmed! > > good! > > >who can participate? how many squares shalll we > have?< > > as far as i understood, me and paula are positive so > far > > > >i like laure`s idea of concentrating on aether and > have tesla as a > >'guest' (visited by aether). > >is our mailing list closed? or open? so nicola can > join and keep up > >with conversations upcoming event. > > yeah, anybody can subscribe, here: > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > speaking of nicola unger i suppose, not tesla ? > (will be difficult > keeping them apart) > > > >we are trying to find someone to do the music-audio > ... the idea i > >mentionned about streaming audio from there, to > participants, and > >back into the room... no one confirmed thus far. do > we have a backup > >audio streamer available - i know boris and laure > are in transit so > >not available... > > i confirm that i think it's an interesting idea.. > what we know is that: > > -streaming via giss.tv works quite reliably, both > boris and nathalie > were streaming sound that way during recent > performances.. > > -streaming from a home-based computer/server is > possible, i can do it > from my computer for instance, but it needs quite a > bit of doctoring > so not everybody will have the time and nerves to do > it... > > but if two performers re-broadcast the stream that's > already not bad, > i think.. if there would be more streamers that > wouldn't change much, > except make it even more sound like a mess... ;). > > best, > m > > ps: it would be good to have some more infos about > the conditions: > - what's the time/duration? > - what are the other acts / performers scheduled on > this evening? > - who's doing the promotion (mail/flyers/press etc)? > - is there a fee for us artists, %on the entries, % > on the bar or whatever? > > pps: > here's the page of the event on WORM's website: > http://www.wormweb.nl/agenda.php?id=1235 > "A programme about streaming, in order to introduce > the new Rotterdam > ArtLab 'Labouretum Lumbrici'. Besides the > Filmwerkplaats (film > studio) and the WORM-CEMstudio, we are happy to > present (at last) an > ArtLab, this time not devoted to the new media, but > specifically to > the old. Beyond zeroes and ones, into the world of > copper wires, > transistors and maybe even the occasional dab of > paint or rusty nail. > Or, as we like to tell each other over our morning > coffee: "We love > the smell of burning S-39 in the morning". And by > the way, let those > robotics all get a second life in google earth." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > _____________________________________________________________________________ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Thu Oct 11 00:46:38 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:46:38 +0200 Subject: [aether] Tr. : aether In-Reply-To: <910925.67912.qm {a+} web50201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <910925.67912.qm {a+} web50201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hi all, nicola, welcome on the list! about the worm performance: >ps since only manuel and paula have confirmed i propose a 3 square performance or 4 frames, if nathalie or chris take over one frame.. 4 would fill a square projection surface more pleasantly. >puppets / paper thingies could be a nice element to integrate indeed. btw - PD Bear is totally amazing another topic: i was recently studying the possibilities of the self-publishing website lulu.com ( in a few words, it's a "print-on-demand" service with no minimum investment, you can really print/order just one paperpack book for ca 10$ ) and i'm thinking about publishing a series of ultra-serious readers about the aether project, containing more or less everything that has been written until now - mailing list archives, endless skype-chat-logs... i imagine a very sober cover design, little graphics, lots of text and a title such as: Aether9 Communication Systems Research & Development Group Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1 please all english-native-speaking: does this sound correct? or would you have other proposals (for the title)? best, manu From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Thu Oct 11 14:58:56 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:58:56 -0500 Subject: [aether] 26 october reconfirmation Message-ID: Hi everybody! I'm ready for the performance. I just download the last patch. Need to know which location i have to choose, which frame. i used the 3rd one and the 6th. Are we finally going to use three frames par person? or now how are we going to work, now with nicolas participation. i loved the cyber bear! so, the script and everything will be at the same link i supposed. will connect today to skype to see if we can try things up. other thing, the sound streeming... i would like to try. it will be using giss tv? ok. see you soon on the net. paula From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Thu Oct 11 21:12:28 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:12:28 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [aether] about self-publishing website lulu.com Re: Tr. : aether In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <250791.82687.qm {a+} web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hello, i suppose i shall like drink a red wine with the guest tesla and us.. So i 'm thinking: what is receive a guest? I think show that via my webcam participation the 26th How other empty frames 'll be occupied? black frame, resize interface screen, one or two of these frames'll play loops.. Now and during 5 days i take part in a workshop about collaborative work on the sounds few words about this method: first step: each participant extract many samples some one sound file then we obtain a list of sounds second step: since this list we listen each sound file and rate them between 1 to 9 and integrate this number in the underscore file third step: we'll mutate these sounds to obtain an other list these underscores detrmine a genetic way to each file so we play a random after with that last list We communicate via chat text in order to work in same time on the sounds usually called laptop orchestra ..also fortunately we communicate in real voice and during the common lunch time..;) see here: http://www.imal.org/cascone_workshop/ i want to explore more collaborative ways and differents kinds to work/ layers of collectives lives.. read you soon cheers Natali 1.1 [*] 1904.cc a ?crit : hi all, nicola, welcome on the list! about the worm performance: >ps since only manuel and paula have confirmed i propose a 3 square performance or 4 frames, if nathalie or chris take over one frame.. 4 would fill a square projection surface more pleasantly. >puppets / paper thingies could be a nice element to integrate indeed. btw - PD Bear is totally amazing another topic: i was recently studying the possibilities of the self-publishing website lulu.com ( in a few words, it's a "print-on-demand" service with no minimum investment, you can really print/order just one paperpack book for ca 10$ ) and i'm thinking about publishing a series of ultra-serious readers about the aether project, containing more or less everything that has been written until now - mailing list archives, endless skype-chat-logs... i imagine a very sober cover design, little graphics, lots of text and a title such as: Aether9 Communication Systems Research & Development Group Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1 please all english-native-speaking: does this sound correct? or would you have other proposals (for the title)? best, manu _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! 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(i'm in zagreb for the voxfeminae festival). then i could potentially come back to this internet cafe tomorrow night for a couple of hours if that suits everyone better, there is also saturday morning/afternoon 12-14h. natalie this genetic laptop music workshop sounds interesting, i definetly like to the results. ok then, i hope we can meet tomorrow or saturday latest. a|idea ----- Message initial ---- De : Paula V?lez Bravo ? : collaborative networked performance Envoy? le : jeudi 11 octobre 2007, 14 h 58 min 56 s Objet : [aether] 26 october reconfirmation Hi everybody! I'm ready for the performance. I just download the last patch. Need to know which location i have to choose, which frame. i used the 3rd one and the 6th. Are we finally going to use three frames par person? or now how are we going to work, now with nicolas participation. i loved the cyber bear! so, the script and everything will be at the same link i supposed. will connect today to skype to see if we can try things up. other thing, the sound streeming... i would like to try. it will be using giss tv? ok. see you soon on the net. paula _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether Obtenez des r?ponses ? vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances et des opinions des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/R?ponses http://fr.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42054/*http://qc.answers.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071011/25c0c9f8/attachment.html From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Fri Oct 12 00:12:52 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:12:52 +0200 Subject: [aether] Re : 26 october reconfirmation In-Reply-To: <484798.16036.qm {a+} web50204.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <484798.16036.qm {a+} web50204.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 12h30 central european time is ok for me. we had some chat-talk going on with paula today, gathering ideas and concept. more tomorrow, cu manu >hi all, >as the date approaches i would like to call an official online meeting( >skype/irc). there are many questions such as time, title, sound, >narrative, number of performers/squares, nicola's paper puppet >suggestionetc. which need to be resolved. >i'm sorry i haven't suggested this earlier, i feel it's all very >rushed now, as in we need to meet asap. i've been hoping continents >as it were. i'll be online geneva time aroung noon - 12:30 tomorrow >for as long as i can, a few hours i hope. (i'm in zagreb for the >voxfeminae festival). then i could potentially come back to this >internet cafe tomorrow night for a couple of hours if that suits >everyone better, there is also saturday morning/afternoon 12-14h. >natalie this genetic laptop music workshop sounds interesting, i >definetly like to the results. >ok then, i hope we can meet tomorrow or saturday latest. >a|idea > From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Fri Oct 12 00:49:36 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:49:36 -0500 Subject: [aether] 26 october ideas proposals In-Reply-To: References: <484798.16036.qm {a+} web50204.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45258533-35A9-4564-991A-FA3796C61D79 {a+} une.net.co> Hi ! it looks cool nathalie?s workshop. i wish to hear the results too. today i was testing the patch and talking, thinking ideas with manuel. later i had a new idea that we could do , i would like to propose it in the next discusion tomorrow, i think is a good one. and it is near the idia we discus today with manu. there is a friend, living in Bogot? (capital from colombia), he knows about aether from the begining too, and he is ready to participate if everyone is agree. i will show you some links of his work: today he performed a streeming video installation: http://www.rrff.blogspot.com/ then here you can hear some music , a performance-concert in streeming, the musician was in the scene, my friend was in another city sending image. his name is Leonardo... i think he was in the skype chat once... user name : la http://www.jstk.org/proyectos/suiche/aeromostra/index.html http://www.flickr.com/photos/radiofantasmas/ ok, i think it could be a new frame. paula From nicola_unger at [nospam] yahoo.com Fri Oct 12 12:39:13 2007 From: nicola_unger at [nospam] yahoo.com (nicola unger) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] 26 october ideas proposals In-Reply-To: <45258533-35A9-4564-991A-FA3796C61D79 {a+} une.net.co> Message-ID: <278461.83428.qm {a+} web33806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hello everybody, are we now meeting on skype? my id is: unger ... anyway if we do not manage to meet today, then let us pick next tuesday, then audrey and i can speak in person and it is bit easier to brainstorm... in any case i think that audrey and i do a frame together, so no extras one with me only... nicola --- Paula V?lez Bravo wrote: > Hi ! > > it looks cool nathalie?s workshop. i wish to hear > the results too. > > today i was testing the patch and talking, thinking > ideas with > manuel. later i had a new idea that we could do , i > would like to > propose it in the next discusion tomorrow, i think > is a good one. and > it is near the idia we discus today with manu. > > there is a friend, living in Bogot? (capital from > colombia), he knows > about aether from the begining too, and he is ready > to participate if > everyone is agree. i will show you some links of his > work: > today he performed a streeming video installation: > http://www.rrff.blogspot.com/ > > then here you can hear some music , a > performance-concert in > streeming, the musician was in the scene, my friend > was in another > city sending image. > his name is Leonardo... i think he was in the skype > chat once... user > name : la > > > http://www.jstk.org/proyectos/suiche/aeromostra/index.html > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/radiofantasmas/ > > ok, i think it could be a new frame. > > paula > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Nicola Unger Handelsplein 49 3071 PR Rotterdam +31-630357954(mob) +31-108442414 +49-1634353412(mob) http://www.zeebelt.nl/DarkSide_Hausbenzin.htm ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca Fri Oct 12 13:03:20 2007 From: ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca (::audrey::) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] Re : 26 october ideas proposals Message-ID: <350663.34478.qm {a+} web50209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> i am here nicola (1pm)- there are a million 'unger' on skype... can you find me ? 'ideacritik' or 'aether9' is manu. .. audrey ----- Message initial ---- De : nicola unger ? : //// collaborative networked performance //// Envoy? le : vendredi 12 octobre 2007, 12 h 39 min 13 s Objet : Re: [aether] 26 october ideas proposals hello everybody, are we now meeting on skype? my id is: unger ... anyway if we do not manage to meet today, then let us pick next tuesday, then audrey and i can speak in person and it is bit easier to brainstorm... in any case i think that audrey and i do a frame together, so no extras one with me only... nicola --- Paula V?lez Bravo wrote: > Hi ! > > it looks cool nathalie?s workshop. i wish to hear > the results too. > > today i was testing the patch and talking, thinking > ideas with > manuel. later i had a new idea that we could do , i > would like to > propose it in the next discusion tomorrow, i think > is a good one. and > it is near the idia we discus today with manu. > > there is a friend, living in Bogot? (capital from > colombia), he knows > about aether from the begining too, and he is ready > to participate if > everyone is agree. i will show you some links of his > work: > today he performed a streeming video installation: > http://www.rrff.blogspot.com/ > > then here you can hear some music , a > performance-concert in > streeming, the musician was in the scene, my friend > was in another > city sending image. > his name is Leonardo... i think he was in the skype > chat once... user > name : la > > > http://www.jstk.org/proyectos/suiche/aeromostra/index.html > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/radiofantasmas/ > > ok, i think it could be a new frame. > > paula > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Nicola Unger Handelsplein 49 3071 PR Rotterdam +31-630357954(mob) +31-108442414 +49-1634353412(mob) http://www.zeebelt.nl/DarkSide_Hausbenzin.htm ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? 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(junk mail folder?) ps - its nicola, not nicolas :) audrey --------------------------------- Obtenez des r?ponses ? vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances et des opinions des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/R?ponses._______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071013/9d8b479d/attachment.html From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Sun Oct 14 05:57:36 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:57:36 -0700 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tuesday night (my midday) sounds good. It'd be fun to see what our aether has turned into after letting it sit and ferment for so long -christiaan From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Tue Oct 16 12:21:07 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:21:07 +0200 Subject: [aether] =?iso-8859-1?q?v=E6rious?= Message-ID: hi list, a notice that i will be slightly offline for a few days, setting up a new project, a video link between belgrade (serbia) and prishtina (kosovo).. the event will be that saturday, but for once it will not be visible online, but on-location only! i'm doing a video check tomorrow at 2pm "central european time" from a location in belgrade, so if anyone of you could be on skype at that time, possibly WITH a webcam, that would be super. i'll be back from serbia on 22nd october, so on 22nd or 23rd evening would be a good moment for general rehearsal.. in the meantime i'll try to elaborate some more details/instructions regarding the performance. and as there were no replies to my question, i ask again: to all fluent english speakers: is the following title "real english"? i.e. does it sound professional, believable, well formulated? "Aether9 Communication Systems, Research & Development Group, Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" As i want to get an ISSN for that publication, we cannot change it afterwards. best, manuel From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Tue Oct 16 14:19:57 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:19:57 -0500 Subject: [aether] =?iso-8859-1?q?v=E6rious?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98331D47-7BF8-4A80-A92E-79284D11B5CE {a+} une.net.co> El 16/10/2007, a las 5:21, 1.1 [*] 1904.cc escribi?: > 2pm " -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Paula V From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Tue Oct 16 19:20:12 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] [aether ISSN] Aether9 Proceedings Volume1, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <529856.84661.qm {a+} web62301.mail.re1.yahoo.com> As there were no replies to my question, i ask again: to all fluent english speakers: is the following title "real english"? i.e. does it sound professional, believable, well formulated? "Aether9 Communication Systems, Research & Development Group, Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" As i want to get an ISSN for that publication, we cannot change it afterwards. It does sound professional, concise, but may also sound a bit dry. The most necessary words are: Aether9 Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1 Could it be stated that simply? 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Ok the 22th october I can the 23th in the evening i can't be connected > > in the meantime i'll try to elaborate some more details/instructions > regarding the performance. great, image wok for me... not sound yet, but it will be possible one day :) Paula, you can work with the sounds, already i worked with them so try if you want.. > > "Aether9 Communication Systems, Research & Development Group, > Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" I like it. Paula V _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071016/e0892f25/attachment.html From amiralionly at [nospam] gmail.com Tue Oct 16 22:18:10 2007 From: amiralionly at [nospam] gmail.com (Amirali Ghasemi) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:18:10 +0100 Subject: [aether] Never Been to Tehran Message-ID: *Never Been to Tehran*, organized by artist Jon Rubin and curator Andrea Grover, is a worldwide exhibition with 29 international participants who will be contributing photographs of what they imagine the city of Tehran to look like, to a universal photo-sharing website. The photographs will be streamed to each exhibition venue as a continuously evolving slideshow, with more photographs being uploaded daily throughout the exhibition. The participants will use a variety of research methods to imagine the culture, landscape, and people of the Tehran, using only their primary city of residence as the location of their photographs. The website www.neverbeentotehran.com will be the vehicle for streaming images to participating venues. * * *Never Been to Tehran,** Exhibition Description* Imagine a city that you've only seen in reproductions or perhaps have merely heard about. A place, like many others, that only exists for you through indirect sources--the nightly news, hearsay, literature, magazines, movies, and the Internet. Using these secondhand clues as firsthand research materials, invited worldwide participants--who have* Never Been to Tehran--*will take photographs (from their home base) of what they imagine Tehran to look like. Contributors will upload their photos daily to an on-line photosharing site, which will be projected as a slideshow simultaneously in galleries and public spaces around the world (including Tehran). Anything that anyone might take a photograph of is fair game, just as long as it* feels* like Tehran. For the international contributors to this exhibition, the task is to search through their daily lives for clues to a foreign place, for the possibility that* somewhere else* exists right under their noses and that, like some clunky form of astral projection, one can travel to other lands without leaving home. New information technologies are expanding the possibility of knowing a place to which you've never traveled. Hosts of amateur and commercial websites and podcasts about a given city, its economy, demographics, culture and subculture have opened the way for a new vernacular of representation. As Tehran's image is regularly depicted in the dominant media, it is a compelling challenge for the participants in this exhibition to sift through the glut of images and information to cull out a personally constructed version of an unfamiliar place. For viewers in Tehran, the exhibition presents a chance to witness an unusual mirroring of their globally projected image, taken from the daily lives and environs of outsiders. Collectively, the artists and viewers of* Never Been to Tehran* will be charting a liminal space stuck somewhere between* here* and* there* that in our contemporary existence just might be home. contact: info at neverbeentotehran.com *Exhibition Venues* Parkingallery, Tehran, Iran Caravansarai, Istanbul, Turkey San Francisco Arts Commission Gallery, San Francisco, USA Media and Interdisciplinary Arts Center, Auckland, New Zealand Koh-I-Noor, Copenhagen, Denmark Mess Hall, Chicago, USA Pittsburgh Cultural Trust (Downtown Electronic Jumbotron), Pittsburgh, USA Embryosalon, Berlin, Germany www.NeverBeenToTehran.com NeverBeenToTehran.com website designed by Alex Marculewicz and programmed by Mattt Thompson. For photo requests or further information, contact Andrea Grover at 713-868-2101 or Jon Rubin at 510-912-2221. ------------------------------------------- a Sneak preview just for *aether *friends http://www.flickr.com/photos/nbttehran best wishes Amirali currently in london -- ----------------------------------------------------- Amirali Ghasemi Media Artist / Art Director http://www.parkingallery.com http://www.amiralionly.com ---------------------------------------- http://www.parkingallery.com/blog http://parkingnews.blogspot.com ------------------------------- http://pix.amiralionly.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/amiralionly/ ------- http://www.reloadingimages.org http://www.exociti.org -------- http://www.humblevoice.com/amiralionly http://360.yahoo.com/amiralionly Skype: amiralionly -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071016/d4417377/attachment.html From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Tue Oct 16 23:22:06 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:22:06 -0500 Subject: [aether] =?iso-8859-1?q?RE_=3A_Re=3A__v=E6rious?= In-Reply-To: <117842.89637.qm {a+} web26112.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <117842.89637.qm {a+} web26112.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks I will do some sound test to retry. so see you tomorrow morning at skype. paula El 16/10/2007, a las 13:43, fougeras nathalie escribi?: > Hello > > > i'm doing a video check tomorrow at 2pm "central european time" from > > a location in belgrade, so if anyone of you could be on skype at > that > > time, possibly WITH a webcam, that would be super. > hmm.. maybe, depends of my answers and possibilities i 'll have to > work with you.. i l'll tell you soon > > > > > > i'll be back from serbia on 22nd october, so on 22nd or 23rd evening > > would be a good moment for general rehearsal.. > Ok the 22th october I can the 23th in the evening i can't be connected > > > > > > in the meantime i'll try to elaborate some more details/instructions > > regarding the performance. > great, image wok for me... not sound yet, but it will be possible one > day :) > > Paula, you can work with the sounds, already i worked with them so > try if you want.. > > > > > > "Aether9 Communication Systems, Research & Development Group, > > Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" > > I like it. > > Paula V > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers > Yahoo! Mail > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071016/d0590bf9/attachment.html From ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca Wed Oct 17 14:16:26 2007 From: ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca (::audrey::) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] tomorrow 14h Message-ID: <296924.15147.qm {a+} web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> hi all, *regarding tomorrow* i have returned to rotterdam to find the network in my house down! (and no one really doing a thing to fix it...!). tomorrow i have an appointment {a+} 3. if nicola and i could find a camera+internet i could hussle for half an hour from 14h... (then maybe nicola?) nicola do you have any ideas for space/equipment? ill be offline again shortly till tomorrow. audrey ----- Message initial ---- De : "1.1 [*] 1904.cc" <1.1 [*] 1904.cc> ? : aether at [nospam] 1904.cc Envoy? le : mardi 16 octobre 2007, 12 h 21 min 07 s Objet : [aether] v?rious hi list, a notice that i will be slightly offline for a few days, setting up a new project, a video link between belgrade (serbia) and prishtina (kosovo).. the event will be that saturday, but for once it will not be visible online, but on-location only! i'm doing a video check tomorrow at 2pm "central european time" from a location in belgrade, so if anyone of you could be on skype at that time, possibly WITH a webcam, that would be super. i'll be back from serbia on 22nd october, so on 22nd or 23rd evening would be a good moment for general rehearsal.. in the meantime i'll try to elaborate some more details/instructions regarding the performance. and as there were no replies to my question, i ask again: to all fluent english speakers: is the following title "real english"? i.e. does it sound professional, believable, well formulated? "Aether9 Communication Systems, Research & Development Group, Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" As i want to get an ISSN for that publication, we cannot change it afterwards. best, manuel _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether Le tout nouveau Yahoo! Courriel. Consultez vos fils RSS depuis votre bo?te de r?ception. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40705/*http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=cf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071017/7eb1d292/attachment.html From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Wed Oct 17 21:37:18 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:37:18 -0700 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "Aether9 Communication Systems, Research & Development Group, Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" "Aether9 Communication Systems, Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" I could do without the R&D -c From nicola_unger at [nospam] yahoo.com Wed Oct 17 22:03:19 2007 From: nicola_unger at [nospam] yahoo.com (nicola unger) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] rehearsals Message-ID: <944394.36379.qm {a+} web33811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hello aethers, audrey and I decided to have a daily rehearsal on these days: monday 22nd until thursday 25 times will be confirmed. can everybody let us know which days are completely impossible? it would be good to get at least one rehearsal all together! we also will do this friday night around 21.00 european time, but that will be a big first test... anyway more to come soon, and let us know when you guys have time. (mailing is a bit "on" off due to virus in the house... sorry for that!!! greetings and until soon online, nicola __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Wed Oct 17 22:38:10 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:38:10 -0500 Subject: [aether] rehearsals In-Reply-To: <944394.36379.qm {a+} web33811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <944394.36379.qm {a+} web33811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > > audrey and I decided to have a daily rehearsal on > these days: > monday 22nd until thursday 25 waiting for time, but it will be in theory good for me anyday of that week. > > we also will do this friday night around 21.00 > european time, but that will be a big first test... i will be there. paula From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Wed Oct 17 22:39:07 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:39:07 -0500 Subject: [aether] festival MEDELINK mars In-Reply-To: <944394.36379.qm {a+} web33811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <944394.36379.qm {a+} web33811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: www.medelink.net voici un festival qui aura lieu a medellin en mars 2008, on pourra participer avec aether9 si ?a vous dit paula From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Thu Oct 18 10:59:25 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:59:25 +0200 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20071018105925.hsxdh6gpw0s0cks0 {a+} webmail.1904.cc> so, we have two proposals, still i need to think about a bit, both sound nice to me. best, manu PS: I'm available for the rehearsals, 22-25th. Judy: "Aether9 Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" Could it be stated that simply? Chris: "Aether9 Communication Systems, Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" I could do without the R&D From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Thu Oct 18 12:12:54 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:12:54 +0200 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <20071018105925.hsxdh6gpw0s0cks0 {a+} webmail.1904.cc> References: <20071018105925.hsxdh6gpw0s0cks0 {a+} webmail.1904.cc> Message-ID: <95c795f70710180312y7596bd6fj4d963b33eb91fc3f {a+} mail.gmail.com> Hello all, Sorry i haven't been involved much into Aether lately. I am following the mails, but no time really to participate at the moment... I am working on a publication myself at the moment, for the Connected:07 project that i have been working on all summer. There are many services on the web where you can print books online. Just look for 'photo book' in google, or something like that. But lulu.com seems a good choice, because it also offers the possibility to sell your publication through them. Maybe I'll also print the Connected:07 publication through them. There is also cafepress.com. Their products are of very good quality, but if you order to Europe you always have to pay extra taxes + costs to the postman for paying the extra taxes upon arrival. So (for us in Europe) it is probably better to find a service that is located in Europe. Maybe you can offer the publication for sale via multiple websites. As for the title, I would propose: "Aether9 - Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" Should Aether9 be written together? It could be like this: "Aether 9 - Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" or should it be: "Aether9 Proceedings - Volume 1, Issue 1" or: "Aether9 - Proceedings - Volume 1, Issue 1" I am not really sure where to put the dashes (-) And are you sure that you will make more issues and volumes? I know many of those projects that started with Issue 1 but never had an Issue 2 or Issue 3. It would probably be saver to call it something like: "Aether9 - Compilation 2007" Or maybe "Aether9 Communication Systems, Research & Development Group, Proceedings 2007" Also I am not sure if the entire mailing-list archives should be included. But maybe you can send a pdf to the list before you publish it, so we can all have a look before it will be printed, just to be sure... For the rest I would say, just make it! It is very important to document projects, especially something that is so difficult to document like Aether9. So if you have the time to make a publication please do it and i will be happy with any title you choose. I will try to catch up with you on Skype during your meetings next week. I won't join the performance. But i will try to watch it. You can send me money via paypal: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com should be the address to use for sending payments. Have to go now, all the best, cym On 10/18/07, 1.1 [*] 1904.cc <1.1 [*] 1904.cc> wrote: > so, we have two proposals, still i need to think about a bit, both > sound nice to me. > best, > manu > PS: I'm available for the rehearsals, 22-25th. > > Judy: > "Aether9 Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" > Could it be stated that simply? > > Chris: > "Aether9 Communication Systems, > Proceedings Volume 1, Issue 1" > I could do without the R&D > > > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Thu Oct 18 16:27:56 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] Online publishing......yudu.com In-Reply-To: <95c795f70710180312y7596bd6fj4d963b33eb91fc3f {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13742.25285.qm {a+} web62307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> http://www.yudu.com/us/ Art Review uses this one......I think the application may have a 2 tier pricing scheme (free + paid upgrade) but one can look at it or get 6 issues Free by downloading one from arteviewdigital.com Otherwise......to avoid VAT and tax......we can just order it printed from the US, No? 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071018/2b00e753/attachment.html From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Thu Oct 18 18:33:31 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:33:31 +0200 Subject: [aether] Online publishing......yudu.com In-Reply-To: <13742.25285.qm {a+} web62307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <13742.25285.qm {a+} web62307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20071018183331.7hujgoagu84oowkw {a+} webmail.1904.cc> from a first glance this looks rather like "digital editions", ie. pdfs or whatever... while the idea with lulu.com would be to have a printed, paperback publication, which would be quite inexpensive since you pay just as much as you want to print. anybody can then order a printed issue from the website, for ca. 10 dollars... i'd find it quite fun to have the aether project "concretized" in a physical object such as a book. Manu Quoting Judy Nylon : > http://www.yudu.com/us/ > > Art Review uses this one......I think the application may have a 2 > tier pricing scheme (free + paid upgrade) but one can look at it or > get 6 issues Free by downloading one from arteviewdigital.com > > Otherwise......to avoid VAT and tax......we can just order it > printed from the US, No? > > Judy > > From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Fri Oct 19 01:32:31 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] Online publishing......yudu.com In-Reply-To: <20071018183331.7hujgoagu84oowkw {a+} webmail.1904.cc> Message-ID: <834263.95083.qm {a+} web62305.mail.re1.yahoo.com> OK.....for me a pdf is nice too. I live in a tiny aerie in a vertical city on a high floor where I try to make everything as weightless as possible....different thinking. JN 1.1 [*] 1904.cc wrote: from a first glance this looks rather like "digital editions", ie. pdfs or whatever... while the idea with lulu.com would be to have a printed, paperback publication, which would be quite inexpensive since you pay just as much as you want to print. anybody can then order a printed issue from the website, for ca. 10 dollars... i'd find it quite fun to have the aether project "concretized" in a physical object such as a book. Manu Quoting Judy Nylon : > http://www.yudu.com/us/ > > Art Review uses this one......I think the application may have a 2 > tier pricing scheme (free + paid upgrade) but one can look at it or > get 6 issues Free by downloading one from arteviewdigital.com > > Otherwise......to avoid VAT and tax......we can just order it > printed from the US, No? > > Judy > > _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(clothing should contrast the surroundings to emphasize the character for example ... in rotterdam it will be dark, perhaps light clothing). center character is nicola here in rotterdam - she is the focus of the other characters, they attempt to 'look through the seats' (also metaphorically) to find out what she is doing and follow her actions... here the delay makes sense, they 'copy' her so it is done afterwards. any thoughts? *tomorrow we will be online, rotterdam time 11-14:30 or so. rehearsing/brainstorming/testing/making the 6 frame interface ...the rest as said in nicola's last mail for times/rehearsal etc... audrey D?couvrez ce qui fait jaser les gens ! Visitez les groupes de l'heure sur Yahoo! Qu?bec Groupes. http://cf.groups.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(clothing should contrast the surroundings to emphasize the character for example ... in rotterdam it will be dark, perhaps light clothing). center character is nicola here in rotterdam - she is the focus of the other characters, they attempt to 'look through the seats' (also metaphorically) to find out what she is doing and follow her actions... here the delay makes sense, they 'copy' her so it is done afterwards. any thoughts? *tomorrow we will be online, rotterdam time 11-14:30 or so. rehearsing/brainstorming/testing/making the 6 frame interface ...the rest as said in nicola's last mail for times/rehearsal etc... audrey --------------------------------- D?couvrez ce qui fait jaser les gens ! Visitez les groupes de l'heure sur Yahoo! Qu?bec Groupes. _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! 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(clothing should contrast the surroundings to emphasize the character for example ... in rotterdam it will be dark, perhaps light clothing). center character is nicola here in rotterdam - she is the focus of the other characters, they attempt to 'look through the seats' (also metaphorically) to find out what she is doing and follow her actions... here the delay makes sense, they 'copy' her so it is done afterwards. any thoughts? *tomorrow we will be online, rotterdam time 11-14:30 or so. rehearsing/brainstorming/testing/making the 6 frame interface ...the rest as said in nicola's last mail for times/rehearsal etc... audrey D?couvrez ce qui fait jaser les gens ! Visitez les groupes de l'heure sur Yahoo! Qu?bec Groupes. _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail Combattez les m?chants pourriels... Le filtre SpamGuard vous aide ? lutter efficacement contre les pourriels sur le Tout-nouveau Yahoo! Courriel http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40705/*http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=cf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071022/4e7fa0cc/attachment.html From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Mon Oct 22 23:56:04 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:56:04 -0500 Subject: [aether] thursday test In-Reply-To: <433545.65581.qm {a+} web50211.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <433545.65581.qm {a+} web50211.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Helooo: Pretty idea with the train and the chairs... it could be easier to syncronise frames. Photos are very usefull, very illustative to understand better, we have to do it every time, every performance. so, the sound, i imagine will be paper, things like in a train, i have also other possibilities we can test tomorrow... it will be a bit earlier for me. 4 o clock in the morning, but is ok , i will try. a question... at what time is suppose to be the 26th performance? paula From ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca Tue Oct 23 00:15:48 2007 From: ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca (::audrey::) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] Re : Re : RE : last thougths this evening Message-ID: <97761.44029.qm {a+} web50207.mail.re2.yahoo.com> script: http://1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=script+%26amp%3B+setup+images+4+%27data+stream%27 (bottom page!) *official time of performance on friday: 22:00 - 22:15 important times before that: 26.10.2007 14:30: general rehearsal (all *must* be present) 15:15: second/last general rehearsal (all *must* be present) *things to schedule: sound check : paula tu es disponible quand? et le vendredi comment tot p-e etre online avec le streaming du son. je vais uploader de l'audio de trains holandais que j'aimerais incorporer au soundscape, quand sera tu online pour qu'on en discute? a|idea Faites des appels de PC ? 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Qu?bec Avatars http://cf.avatars.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071023/9d6171cf/attachment.html From lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de Wed Oct 24 16:43:47 2007 From: lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de (laure deselys) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:43:47 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [aether] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <953329.59387.qm {a+} web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <252786.74709.qm {a+} web26705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hello all Ive just been reading the script, and its not limpid at first sight but what ive seen from the viewer sounds-looks great ! more visually homogenic with the bar codes and the work on the light, thats a gain ! is it planned somehow to archive all the performance ont the 26th ? I would really like to have a look at this one, especially since i didnt participate to the elaboration, so to have a more objective view on how it looks like. will try to already have a look at the rehearsal tomorrow, but thats not sure Otherwise i wish you good luck, although this one looks far more prepared then the other -hope to meet chris in california, outside the carbon. - Nath are you actually in brussels ...?... will be back on the 5th november see u soon laure --- : audrey: : Tue Oct 23 16: 50: 23 at [nospam] yahoo.com, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS_IN_GROUP at .SYNTAX-ERROR.;;;;;, "::audrey::" schrieb: > le script, un peu plus detaille: > http://1904.cc/~aether/WORM/script.html > > demain manu sera online a 10h - pour pratiquer avec > nicola. nathalie pourrais-tu te joindre vers les > 11h? > > paula: une petite chose, quel url je dois mettre > comme lien pour ton nom au debut de la page du > script? > > choses a regler: > > -screen cast free/open source pour osx ? any > ideas??? > -html interface :: lien sur page principale vers la > page suivante que nous utiliserons: > http://1904.cc/~aether/html/mainframe.html > > ps - le son fonctionne tres bien jusqu'ici! > > > > > Changez de t?te et de tenue tous les jours si > vous le voulez ! Volez la vedette sur Yahoo! Qu?bec > Avatars > http://cf.avatars.yahoo.com/> _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? www.yahoo.de/mail From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Wed Oct 24 18:31:49 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:31:49 -0500 Subject: [aether] script updated - times -- etc In-Reply-To: <953329.59387.qm {a+} web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <953329.59387.qm {a+} web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Audrey: salut. d?j? sur la page du script tu devras ?crire (Medell?n , Colombia) car je n'habite pas ? Bogot?. puis sur un URL, i dont have yet a decent web page of my own. i'm just working in a blog to compilate everything, but it is not ready to send a link of it. anyway y could show you some links that have some information. Maybe i could put all this links in my future blog to have only an adress. my future blog is: http://pinkblackpantera.indiestry.org/ so , if i have some little time, i will put links in there voici quelques liens mais bon... c'est pas terrible tout ?a. > El rincon del mar http://laborincondelmar.wordpress.com/el-rincon-del-mar/ http://laborincondelmar.wordpress.com/about/ > Archives home movies http://www.jstk.org/proyectos/mayo/index.html http://jstk.org/ proyectos/screeners/index.html http://www.jstk.org/proyectos/screeners/ > Concert et videos ? visionner http://www.jstk.org/proyectos/suiche/mauricio/index.html http:// www.vimeo.com/258577 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT0_2oCYpO8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X07GHecSips http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Ret0woSOk http://www.vimeo.com/258583 http://www.vimeo.com/258631 http://www.vimeo.com/258635 http://www.vimeo.com/258675 http://losvecinos3.wordpress.com/identite-francais/ http://ouvrir.le.cinema.free.fr/pages/coinamis.html http://www.pixelache.ac/2007/session2-invitados-bailable/ Paula El 23/10/2007, a las 11:50, ::audrey:: escribi?: > le script, un peu plus detaille: > http://1904.cc/~aether/WORM/script.html > > demain manu sera online a 10h - pour pratiquer avec nicola. > nathalie pourrais-tu te joindre vers les 11h? > > paula: une petite chose, quel url je dois mettre comme lien pour > ton nom au debut de la page du script? > > choses a regler: > > -screen cast free/open source pour osx ? any ideas??? > -html interface :: lien sur page principale vers la page suivante > que nous utiliserons: http://1904.cc/~aether/html/mainframe.html > > ps - le son fonctionne tres bien jusqu'ici! > > Combattez les m?chants pourriels... 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071024/2d8bc5c9/attachment.html From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Wed Oct 24 20:50:48 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:50:48 -0700 Subject: [aether] aether Digest, Vol 6, Issue 18 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: laure+boris have a safe trip the air here is heavy with ash san diego being the worst of it hopefully all the fires will be contained by the time you arrive see you soon screencapture aviscreen is my favorite on windows http://www.bobyte.com/AviScreen/index.asp for mac supposedly jing is free but i have no experience with it http://www.jingproject.com/ I believe you still need to install the codecs for compression unless you have the space for uncompressed video but you'd still have to compress it to share with us http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/codecs-final-105-1.htm http://www.doom9.org/software.htm another I haven't tried http://directory.fsf.org/project/xvidcap/ list of most that I tried http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screencasting_software general free or opensource software directories http://directory.fsf.org/ http://www.osdir.com/ http://swik.net/ From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Fri Oct 26 02:51:41 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:51:41 +0200 Subject: [aether] aether9 level2 In-Reply-To: <770650.63454.qm {a+} web50209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <770650.63454.qm {a+} web50209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47213A1D.1030902 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Hello aethernauts, i've been trying to follow a little the preparations of tommorow's performance while i was in poland and now what i saw the last couples days on the viewer interface is very very sweetly delicious!!! Congratulations! I'll be computer-less in california for the next 10 days, then i'll gladly jump back in the bath. Love, Boris From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Fri Oct 26 22:26:52 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:26:52 +0200 Subject: [aether] aether9 level2 In-Reply-To: <47213A1D.1030902 {a+} n3krozoft.com> References: <770650.63454.qm {a+} web50209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47213A1D.1030902 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <95c795f70710261326k5e3342a9vbf235e2fb3595b18 {a+} mail.gmail.com> hey aethers, I am watching right now... waiting for the start the interface looks very nice, but when I use firefox the sound doesn't play (probably i am missing some plugin, but i keep it that way for testing) so i am watching the performance in explorer where the sound works fine. but in explorer all the frames have a border! and because of the border each cell has a scrollbar! and this doesn't look very nice. I always have to resize the window to make the frame cells so big that the scroll bar disappears. but the borders stay, so this effect that it looks like the vertical lines on the top and bottom are connected, disappears... i just spent the whole week in ljubljana teaching 18 students HTML/webdesign (from 10am till 21pm every day..), so maybe i am focused a bit too much on such details, but anyway.. the interface looks really nice in firefox and would be good if it looks the same in explorer... anyway, i am right now watching, waiting for the performance to start. some of my students also said they will watch tonight, so it would be good to put some message or something online, that performance is starting 30 mins later. I am not sure if it is enough just that the number of seconds how long to wait keeps on changing. would be better to put a line on the bottom that says * performance will start 30 mins later - 22:30 CET * okay, i will keep on watching and waiting and take some photos cym On 10/26/07, bk wrote: > Hello aethernauts, > i've been trying to follow a little the preparations of tommorow's > performance while i was in poland and now what i saw the last couples > days on the viewer interface is very very sweetly delicious!!! > Congratulations! > I'll be computer-less in california for the next 10 days, then i'll > gladly jump back in the bath. > Love, > Boris > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > From alejoduque at [nospam] gmail.com Fri Oct 26 22:28:09 2007 From: alejoduque at [nospam] gmail.com (alejo d) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:28:09 +0200 Subject: [aether] aether9 level2 In-Reply-To: <95c795f70710261326k5e3342a9vbf235e2fb3595b18 {a+} mail.gmail.com> References: <770650.63454.qm {a+} web50209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47213A1D.1030902 {a+} n3krozoft.com> <95c795f70710261326k5e3342a9vbf235e2fb3595b18 {a+} mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: im behind a modem connection so i can hardly load the page, good luck on level2! :) On 10/26/07, cym net wrote: > hey aethers, I am watching right now... waiting for the start > the interface looks very nice, but when I use firefox the sound > doesn't play (probably i am missing some plugin, but i keep it that > way for testing) > so i am watching the performance in explorer where the sound works fine. > > but in explorer all the frames have a border! and because of the > border each cell has a scrollbar! and this doesn't look very nice. I > always have to resize the window to make the frame cells so big that > the scroll bar disappears. but the borders stay, so this effect that > it looks like the vertical lines on the top and bottom are connected, > disappears... > > i just spent the whole week in ljubljana teaching 18 students > HTML/webdesign (from 10am till 21pm every day..), so maybe i am > focused a bit too much on such details, but anyway.. the interface > looks really nice in firefox and would be good if it looks the same in > explorer... > > anyway, i am right now watching, waiting for the performance to start. > some of my students also said they will watch tonight, so it would be > good to put some message or something online, that performance is > starting 30 mins later. I am not sure if it is enough just that the > number of seconds how long to wait keeps on changing. would be better > to put a line on the bottom that says > * performance will start 30 mins later - 22:30 CET * > > okay, i will keep on watching and waiting and take some photos > > cym > > > On 10/26/07, bk wrote: > > Hello aethernauts, > > i've been trying to follow a little the preparations of tommorow's > > performance while i was in poland and now what i saw the last couples > > days on the viewer interface is very very sweetly delicious!!! > > Congratulations! > > I'll be computer-less in california for the next 10 days, then i'll > > gladly jump back in the bath. > > Love, > > Boris > > _______________________________________________ > > aether mailing list > > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > From amiralionly at [nospam] gmail.com Fri Oct 26 22:32:27 2007 From: amiralionly at [nospam] gmail.com (Amirali Ghasemi) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:02:27 +0330 Subject: [aether] I'm also watching it from Tehran! Message-ID: hello Every body I'm also watching the performance from Tehran Good luck and have nice evening warm wishes from Tehran Amirali On 26/10/2007, cym net wrote: > > hey aethers, I am watching right now... waiting for the start > the interface looks very nice, but when I use firefox the sound > doesn't play (probably i am missing some plugin, but i keep it that > way for testing) > so i am watching the performance in explorer where the sound works fine. > > but in explorer all the frames have a border! and because of the > border each cell has a scrollbar! and this doesn't look very nice. I > always have to resize the window to make the frame cells so big that > the scroll bar disappears. but the borders stay, so this effect that > it looks like the vertical lines on the top and bottom are connected, > disappears... > > i just spent the whole week in ljubljana teaching 18 students > HTML/webdesign (from 10am till 21pm every day..), so maybe i am > focused a bit too much on such details, but anyway.. the interface > looks really nice in firefox and would be good if it looks the same in > explorer... > > anyway, i am right now watching, waiting for the performance to start. > some of my students also said they will watch tonight, so it would be > good to put some message or something online, that performance is > starting 30 mins later. I am not sure if it is enough just that the > number of seconds how long to wait keeps on changing. would be better > to put a line on the bottom that says > * performance will start 30 mins later - 22:30 CET * > > okay, i will keep on watching and waiting and take some photos > > cym > > > On 10/26/07, bk wrote: > > Hello aethernauts, > > i've been trying to follow a little the preparations of tommorow's > > performance while i was in poland and now what i saw the last couples > > days on the viewer interface is very very sweetly delicious!!! > > Congratulations! > > I'll be computer-less in california for the next 10 days, then i'll > > gladly jump back in the bath. > > Love, > > Boris > > _______________________________________________ > > aether mailing list > > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Amirali Ghasemi Media Artist / Art Director http://www.parkingallery.com http://www.amiralionly.com ---------------------------------------- http://parkingnews.blogspot.com ------------------------------- http://pix.amiralionly.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/amiralionly/ ------- http://www.neverbeentotehran.com/ http://www.reloadingimages.org http://www.exociti.org -------- http://www.humblevoice.com/amiralionly http://360.yahoo.com/amiralionly Skype: amiralionly -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I oops, indeed this looks not as intended.. and it has been so since the first aether performance! can it be that i never opened it in explorer since 6 months ? or is this dependent on the version of explorer? anyway, we'll add this little missing tag... > >anyway, i am right now watching, waiting for the performance to start. >some of my students also said they will watch tonight, so it would be >good to put some message or something online, that performance is >starting 30 mins later. yeah, this is something we need to be more conscious about, specially when announcing on a 5000+ mailing-list.. somehow we should make sure, when playing at a venue, that starting time will be precise to the millisecond... specially since we all were ready this time! just received a message from a viewer who was looking since 21:50 and finally went to read a book at 22:30 .... best, manu From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Sat Oct 27 06:32:51 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:32:51 -0700 Subject: [aether] videocapture corrupt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: sorry all my laptop ate the videocapture of aemotions the audio is slightly salvaged from it though with some clipping processed out. let me know which & where you prefer: 1. wav = 250mb 2. ogg = 13mb 3. mp3 = 17mb 4. uploaded to aether wiki artifacts 5. uploaded to yousendit.com and emailed to list From nicola_unger at [nospam] yahoo.com Sat Oct 27 10:51:57 2007 From: nicola_unger at [nospam] yahoo.com (nicola unger) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] videocapture corrupt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <262374.58600.qm {a+} web33815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> we also made a capture at worm, and that seems ok, but more later... it got late yesterday! :) --- christiaan cruz wrote: > > sorry all my laptop ate the videocapture of > aemotions > the audio is slightly salvaged from it though with > some clipping processed out. > > let me know which & where you prefer: > 1. wav = 250mb > 2. ogg = 13mb > 3. mp3 = 17mb > 4. uploaded to aether wiki artifacts > 5. uploaded to yousendit.com and emailed to list > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Nicola Unger +49-1634353412(mob) +31-630357954(mob) http://www.zeebelt.nl/DarkSide_Hausbenzin.htm http://www.slashseconds.org/issues/002/002/articles/dtoomato/index.php ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Sat Oct 27 12:52:30 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:52:30 +0200 Subject: [aether] videocapture corrupt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: chris, you could upload the ogg file to http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.10.26_WORM/ i.e. you log into 1904.cc via ftp and put the file into /archive/2007.10.26_WORM/ this way we would have a "clean" audio track we could mix with the one recorded on-location... best, manuel ps: an unknown remote viewer from hungary writes: > >it was very beautiful, congratulations! >Anna >sorry all my laptop ate the videocapture of aemotions >the audio is slightly salvaged from it though with >some clipping processed out. > >let me know which & where you prefer: >1. wav = 250mb >2. ogg = 13mb >3. mp3 = 17mb >4. uploaded to aether wiki artifacts >5. uploaded to yousendit.com and emailed to list >_______________________________________________ From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Sun Oct 28 19:35:47 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:35:47 +0200 Subject: [aether] videocapture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: while we wait for the DV tape being processed, a remote viewer was so gentle to post some screen captures here: http://www.asquare.org/networkresearch/ and btw, another networked performance is taking place tomorrow night. seems that the number of viewers is "limited" and that it will start on time... best, manu ps_ for those who were asking about the belgrade videobridge project, a documentation is now online: http://n3krozoft.com/videobridge >Demain, lundi 29 octobre ? 20h Breaking Solitude >dans le salon web de panoplie.org >pr?sente >une performance de Florian Fernandez. > >Il n'y aura que 30 places, donc, ne connectez-vous pas trop tard ? > >http://panoplie.emakimono.org/index.php/projets/voir/15 >n'oubliez pas de vous inscrire sur le site si vous ne l'avez pas encore fait > >A demain >Annie Abrahams From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Mon Oct 29 15:19:51 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] videocapture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <349101.59894.qm {a+} web62302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Congratulations! The captures on asquare look beautiful.The balance b'twn Medium length shots and close ups is good and the images from one location to another are consistently clean. I look forward to the DV tape. Couldn't get through the videobridge link. Dragging my bones and cases to London later today; hope I am set up to at least watch next one. JUDY 1.1 [*] 1904.cc wrote: while we wait for the DV tape being processed, a remote viewer was so gentle to post some screen captures here: http://www.asquare.org/networkresearch/ and btw, another networked performance is taking place tomorrow night. seems that the number of viewers is "limited" and that it will start on time... best, manu ps_ for those who were asking about the belgrade videobridge project, a documentation is now online: http://n3krozoft.com/videobridge >Demain, lundi 29 octobre ? 20h Breaking Solitude >dans le salon web de panoplie.org >pr?sente >une performance de Florian Fernandez. > >Il n'y aura que 30 places, donc, ne connectez-vous pas trop tard ? > >http://panoplie.emakimono.org/index.php/projets/voir/15 >n'oubliez pas de vous inscrire sur le site si vous ne l'avez pas encore fait > >A demain >Annie Abrahams _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071029/4795bd17/attachment.html From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Tue Oct 30 12:06:33 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 04:06:33 -0700 Subject: [aether] mal au ogg & pixel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ogg is up best to synchronize from the end of video with the end of audio start is uncertain as the audio ran before the actual start Paula, if certian frequencies seem too bright or dull please let me know the clip restoration plug in may have overprocessed. has anyone turned in an aether project for Mal Pixel? http://www.pixelache.ac/?page_id=646 http://www.pixelache.ac/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/malaupixel2008_submissionform.doc theme: public sphere like J?rgen Habermas makes me think of German coed public baths completely alien to North Americans as there are no hangups, no hegemonic forces, no social issues how could an aether interface convey that? will anyone be in paris for the event MAy 17-25 2008? the Helsinki, Reykjavik & Americas submission dates have not been announced -c From fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com Tue Oct 30 12:43:40 2007 From: fe2cruz at [nospam] hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 04:43:40 -0700 Subject: [aether] link to ogg In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.10.26_WORM/aemotions.ogg From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Tue Oct 30 14:32:38 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:32:38 -0500 Subject: [aether] mal au ogg & pixel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3D8CF629-E9CD-4FB8-9783-80EF29FDCB7F {a+} une.net.co> i'm planning to be in paris in spring, it could be a very good excuse to fixe a date. i wanted to be in paris like a month and i could be there at the begining of may. paula El 30/10/2007, a las 6:06, christiaan cruz escribi?: > > ogg is up > best to synchronize from the end of video with the end of audio > start is uncertain as the audio ran before the actual start > Paula, if certian frequencies seem too bright or dull please > let me know the clip restoration plug in may have overprocessed. > > has anyone turned in an aether project for Mal Pixel? > http://www.pixelache.ac/?page_id=646 > http://www.pixelache.ac/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ > malaupixel2008_submissionform.doc > > theme: public sphere > like J?rgen Habermas > > makes me think of German coed public baths > completely alien to North Americans as there are > no hangups, no hegemonic forces, no social issues > > how could an aether interface convey that? > > will anyone be in paris for the event MAy 17-25 2008? > > the Helsinki, Reykjavik & Americas > submission dates have not been announced > > > -c > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Tue Oct 30 14:50:41 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:50:41 -0500 Subject: [aether] videocapture did works In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4414FC12-EB9A-4552-9920-447214CDB9A5 {a+} une.net.co> Cristiaan: merci pour le fichier .ogg. it seems very good, i even prefer to take off the lastest part where i talk, because the transmision must be finished and I forgot to take off the live sound. did somebody put the video already in the net? i would like to see it with sound incorporated. paula From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Tue Oct 30 19:29:28 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:29:28 -0500 Subject: [aether] streeming festival very soon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <09CB0CA5-51D0-4884-AC1E-CEB1C994CC5E {a+} une.net.co> This is an streeming festival organize for some friends from Bogot?. COlombia. I think we could do some thing. what do you think. i will be in Bogot? since november 3rd to 6 but if we decide to do some streeming i could rest in Bogot? for the festival. anyway i have another friend that could be responsable in situ, if i decide to streem from medell?n. http://tremor4.templeofmessages.com/ http://tremor4.templeofmessages.com/ http://tremor4.templeofmessages.com/ http://tremor4.templeofmessages.com/ Paula From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Tue Oct 30 19:32:19 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:32:19 -0500 Subject: [aether] tremor participation form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?Call for Entries? / tremor_4 - November 8-11, 2007 tags: performance art asynchronous real-time myzal terra incognita units of energy flux hyperbodies public activation bricolage immediatism Tremor Live Arts presents Tremor_4 , a multi locational performedia festival that will occur in the artist?s present location. The event will be temporally specific rather than specific to a single physical or virtual location. The Tremor_4 webpage will exist first as a window and online portal to participating performances and later as a gallery and archive of the festival. Tremor_4 will be a freestyle and open-source festival that depends on the cooperation of the participating artists to succeed. We invite your collaboration in the production of this shared event! Work in the following media is accepted- street art/ urban art- actions, interventions, mapping, fleeting moments... live art, performance installation, AV, sound art, multimedia... transmission art, noise, radio, VJ, tele-performance, avatar-based performance, pixel art... missing link- site-specific, nature, rural, utopia, astronomical precessions, unseen... INSTRUCTIONS FOR PARTICIPATION STEP 1: Send artist's name, title, brief synopsis, time/date and location of your performance, and representative image to: tremor4 at templeofmessages.com (optional: web-links, online maps, additional text, images, or sound) ***If your performance will be streamed or transmitted live or take place online or in-world, please send links to those locations. STEP 2: Send minimum one image or sound file to be included in the Tremor_4 gallery/ archive. ***Please try to send documentation within 24 or 36 hrs of your performance. ***We encourage you to also send additional images (72dpi), video, and/or sound of performance to be uploaded to Tremor_4 webpage, and/or send links to video-sharing platform or other location where you uploaded documentation. All formats accepted. The festival will happen November 8-11, 2007. 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071030/ba0b6c39/attachment.html From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Tue Oct 30 21:30:04 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:30:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] feed back of the aether performance Message-ID: <656276.86045.qm {a+} web26107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hello, Yes i receipt message friends who connected our html interface during our performance like Garett Lynch who took this screen shot of our performance ( http://www.asquare.org/networkresearch/ ) Garett is an assistant lecturer in UK and now in the Wales in the new media department, we followed the same school of art in new media at the ENSAD Paris idem for Annie Abrahams, is an artist, i participated at a chat performance and a reading performance with her I sent you a copy-paste of his nice message: Garrett Lynch a ?crit : ?: Natalie Fougeras De: Garrett Lynch Objet: ce soir Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:32:20 +0100 bravo pour c'est soir, j'ai pas voir en entier mais sufficient et ca a bien marche. a+ gar _________________ Garrett at asquare.org http://www.asquare.org/ http://www.asquare.org/networkresearch/ 1.1 [*] 1904.cc a ?crit : Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:00:57 +0200 ?: //// collaborative networked performance //// De: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Objet: Re: [aether] aether9 level2 >but in explorer all the frames have a border! and because of the >border each cell has a scrollbar! and this doesn't look very nice. I oops, indeed this looks not as intended.. and it has been so since the first aether performance! can it be that i never opened it in explorer since 6 months ? or is this dependent on the version of explorer? anyway, we'll add this little missing tag... > >anyway, i am right now watching, waiting for the performance to start. >some of my students also said they will watch tonight, so it would be >good to put some message or something online, that performance is >starting 30 mins later. yeah, this is something we need to be more conscious about, specially when announcing on a 5000+ mailing-list.. somehow we should make sure, when playing at a venue, that starting time will be precise to the millisecond... specially since we all were ready this time! just received a message from a viewer who was looking since 21:50 and finally went to read a book at 22:30 .... best, manu _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20071030/91a9b663/attachment.html From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Tue Oct 30 22:03:35 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:03:35 +0100 Subject: [aether] tremor participation form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: the tremor_4 thing sounds indeed interesting and fitting - maybe that would be a good occasion to repeat "stationary aemotion" and to record it properly (i.e. recording the performance at each location)... what does the rotterdam team think? also it would be nice in this case to have direct video from bogota too.. paula, do you want to contact them/submit them our info-material? ps= i sumbitted aether9 as proposal to the upcoming pixelache festival in paris. also to videomedeja (novi sad) and signal+noise (vancouver). best, manu From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Tue Oct 30 22:19:09 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:19:09 +0100 Subject: [aether] feed back of the aether performance In-Reply-To: <656276.86045.qm {a+} web26107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <656276.86045.qm {a+} web26107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: thanks nathalie, btw i see that garrett is preparing a networked performance event on november 20th, still accepting proposals untill this friday according to this page: http://openear.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/network-201107/ did you talk about that, or even propose him our performance ? >Hello, > >Yes i receipt message friends who connected our html interface >during our performance like Garett Lynch who took this screen shot >of our performance >( http://www.asquare.org/networkresearch/ ) >Garett is an assistant lecturer in UK and now in the Wales in the >new media department, we followed the same school of art in new >media at the ENSAD Paris > >idem for Annie Abrahams, is an artist, i participated at a chat >performance and a reading performance with her > >I sent you a copy-paste of his nice message: > From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Tue Oct 30 23:18:31 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:18:31 -0500 Subject: [aether] tremor participation form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9A166366-BC77-4B88-9094-9DF3F72C13FA {a+} une.net.co> shit i edit some post in the wiki and it didnt worked well because i was trying tou draw. vitals: May 17-25 2008 http://www.pixelache.ac/?page_id=646 http://www.pixelache.ac/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ malaupixel2008_submissionform.doc http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/habermas/ theme - Public Sphere festival - VJ gathering, new media, etc. http://www.flickr.com/photos/8080319 at N05/sets/72157602765917975/show/ brainstorms: Open public spaces of freedom remind me of German coed public baths. They are completely alien to North Americans as there are no hangups, no hegemonic forces, no social issues. WORM show was nice. Like the Lumiere Train Arriving to Station, aether l2 has arrived. Is there a way we can have the HTML interface color oscillate during the performance? So the cells stay black & white but the frame slowly changes colors. As this happens the greyscale cells would hopefully trick the eye into seeing the opposite color of the frame of the interface. If that is not possible,some other kind of active frame like the simple lines from WORM would be nice. actual script: please contribute............. paula says...like in a simon says play: The other day...april. after the mapping festival performance i was thinking about an idea to do with aether dispositif. The funny thing was that it had a common thing about the first part of this brainstorming. Public Baths. So i was thinking about it because of the public bathrooms and the graffiti, scratch, notes, explicit drawings that some times i found in some obscure nigth places. In latin am?rica particulary there is an interesting photographic study that could be made about graphisme and things i think. Anyway i'm always interested in graphism and graffity...so do i in live performance... doing things graphicaly manually to put it live in video performance. So i thought about this idea. Basic: a public bathroom somewhere in each frame. an actor painting the bathroom, drawing the walls, and communication with others, with the others frames who are doing the same. It could be the public showers but it is easyer to do it in a bar somewhere. Actually i'm trying to adaptate the idea to this... because it was more complicated... it was related to pornographic chats and messages in public bathrooms. i will try to draw a map of the first idea transformed maybe somebody will give someothers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- \ only Audio Bath Cabin --- Only video cabin \ \ | | \ \------------ | ---------------------------------- | ----------------------\ \ V V \ \ words, phrases, live writings, drawings \ \ dirth talk like in public baths \ \ like in gainsbourg song telephone numbers \ \ "hello, hello" then other things and photos too \ \ \ \----------------------------------------------------------------------- ---\ \ \ \ T R A N S M I S S I O N \ \ | \ \----------------------------------|------------------------------------ ---\ \ V \ \ R E C E P T I O N \ \----------------------------------|------------------------------------ ---\ | | | | | | video frame | V | video frame | | in place 1 | | in place 3 | | | video frame | | | | public bathroom in | | | | someother country | | | | place 2 | | |______________________|__________________________| _______________________| | | | | | | video body and | | | video frame | faces fragments from | video frame | | in place 4 | pornochat images live | in place 5 | | | | | | | | | | | | | |______________________|__________________________| _______________________| | | | | | | | | | video frame | video frame | video frame | | in place 6 | in place 7 | in place 8 | | | | | | | | | |______________________|__________________________| _______________________| Something like that. I could write other ideas, i wish this one could make everybody play simon says to developpe a good ones for next performances. writing it i realised that adaptation from the firs idea i have in mind , is not very useful but it's maybe a good start. I also thougth about sound and performance in place... and i thougt that it could be interesting to put 9 or 8 channels in separate speakers. to send sound from all aethernauts places picked from people talking dirty in all languages. well... i will continue tomorrow... waiting for new ideas. From ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co Tue Oct 30 23:45:26 2007 From: ciruela at [nospam] une.net.co (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Paula_V=E9lez_Bravo?=) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:45:26 -0500 Subject: [aether] tremor participation form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Manu: yes i will send the AETHER material to tremor festival. I think it will be easy to transmit it directly from bogot?. because of the time we have i think too that is a good idea to repeat the rotterdam performance. maybe, i dont know, we could add other participants in other frames to complet the idea... i will try to put some ideas in the bogot? wiki script. great that you have already submited aether9 to pixelache! and the other festivals too. thanks paula From fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr Wed Oct 31 10:33:26 2007 From: fougeras_nathalie at [nospam] yahoo.fr (fougeras nathalie) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:33:26 +0100 (CET) Subject: [aether] RE : Re: feed back of the aether performance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <523828.49182.qm {a+} web26104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> yes i talked with him about aether performance, but for this call of proposition he want something more with the sound and interactivity he said me 1.1 [*] 1904.cc a ?crit : thanks nathalie, btw i see that garrett is preparing a networked performance event on november 20th, still accepting proposals untill this friday according to this page: http://openear.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/network-201107/ did you talk about that, or even propose him our performance ? >Hello, > >Yes i receipt message friends who connected our html interface >during our performance like Garett Lynch who took this screen shot >of our performance >( http://www.asquare.org/networkresearch/ ) >Garett is an assistant lecturer in UK and now in the Wales in the >new media department, we followed the same school of art in new >media at the ENSAD Paris > >idem for Annie Abrahams, is an artist, i participated at a chat >performance and a reading performance with her > >I sent you a copy-paste of his nice message: > _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! 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