From knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com Sat Sep 1 22:38:56 2007 From: knickerbockerjuju at [nospam] yahoo.com (Judy Nylon) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] row my bot//Money//Marko Stamenkovic//Oct in CA//niche venue or public facing In-Reply-To: <46D4309B.3040701 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Message-ID: <823425.99073.qm {a+} web62303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> The first thing here in Boris' post that was sort of funny was that I had been thinking that maybe I was too 'hard line' about my feeling that grant apps. and salaming the self-appointed culture definers was a waste of energy........So I wrote a short play and applied to the Public Theater in NYC for a one year stipend and a few famous mentors in playwriting. I won't know until late October & NYC is a city of millions vs 12-15 chosen....SO. This was spurred by someone mentioning that maybe we will need a professionally written piece for Aether to weave the lose ends of performance to the point where meaning is clear. And speaking of clarity: Who is our audience? What does this audience need to get meaning from our performance? Is Aether9 going to be ?public facing? or is it a ?niche venue practice? Highly experimental artworks are actually well suited to mass audiences, and can be placed in that context successfully. Similarly, small and highly specific audiences are a vital part of developing practices, and need to be encouraged as much as 'public facing' artworks. Either could stand a chance of being encouraged by future presentation structures by making it clear which one we are. If we want to be 'members only style' and work from an exclusive and intellectually interesting mailing list, that is one way to present (see: http://www.thelasttuesdaysociety.org/) ...OR... to face the public and rely on the mass mind to embrace you seems to me to require an element of wide reaching public spectacle like GRL (see: http://graffitiresearchlab.com/). I hung out with the very interesting James Powderly the other day and sense that GRL is no more certain of how to handle the financing their very 'social practice' than we are. For the record, at this point while there is so little money....I'm with Manu...just divide it up and give it out. However, if we chose to do public spectacle; for instance write something to project on the wall in Gaza and then market T-shirts, a business manager will appear because we will generate serious money as well as social responsibility. I am not unhappy with a small and research styled group plan nor am I shy of the 'public facing option' including the T-shirts and attention. If we chose this one, we might have to schedule a face to face meeting, maybe a week together somewhere, to make the team more intuitive and able to respond as a unit. I suspect that I will be still here in NYC during the 26th Oct to Nov 6th window of time but have noted Boris and Laure in CA in case I hear of anything of interest there. Manu...thanks for calender (I'll try it too) and the timeline.... and Natalie....thanks too. Your mention of the book edited by Marko Stamenkovic led me to the attached pdf (the book is unavailable here). Judy bk wrote: Hello, in the summertime i drifted away somewhat from the aether ship. here i am back on board. -- about future performances and thematics and co-writing, i personnaly feel that i played a lot in my head with different ideas, liked to be introduced to the world of the other aethernauts, to test it, and after all these experiments i would like to follow Lucy's suggestion to get back to the initial theme of aether. i believe now we reached a point where we can develop a much more mature performance linked to this theme. formally though we obviously still have a lot to achieve. i will contribute now to the scenario and formal discussions here: http://www.1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=topics+and+keywords --- "- thanks Lucy for involving aether9 in the (re)Actor2 event in London for Sept 10th. I'm in!" i missed something here. a performance is planned? i would be in too! --- - Judy said that she isn't so much in favor of applying for grants and answering many festival calls, but more in favor of establishing/creating our own channels of visibilty and income (as we have tried so far in an empirical and spontaneous way in a way). She refers to "an art language that was born of the New French philosophy from 40 years ago. It implies emotional distance. It is vague and poetic while seeming to give great detail in code." I undestand this very well - myself having almost never failed to experience this "emotional distance" at media-net art exhibits and performances, in the ambience itself of the event or gathering and the "communication" with the commissioners/curators. so i am not very motivated myself to search for calls and answer them. but i know that it is also important, and am very happy that others in the group have the nerves to do so. and partipation to festivals isn't in contradiction with the objective of developping DIY (do it yourself) interfaces and visibility! one of the great things with the aether project is that i don't feel this emotional distance and i don't feel the need to know more about the background of other's participants, i feel that the discussions on the list and in the preparation of the performances bring a definite un-robotic feeling. --- - Finances > the more exterior actors there are (festivals, gallerists, curators), the more complex and unsatisfying the sharing of the income becomes... the less middle-men, the less complex the distribution of the money is (simple rule - wich is an argument in favor of putting energy in an independent and DIY system). > about the 300 euros of the rotterdam performance (> question to Manu: on what type of bank account is it? did you open an account solely for the aether project? can you do e-banking with it?) - Chris proposes to leave it for further expenses - Manu proposes to simply distribute the amount between the participants of the Rotterdam Hotel performance (but also he asks whether to share with the performers of the following performance of Hotel Pleven Bulgaria) - I am in favor of 2 alternatives: 1. if we don't appy the grand economical system, we distribute the amount between the participants of the Rotterdam Hotel performance: 100 for Manu (who dealt with the administrative work and the hardware work and coordination) 50 each for Audrey, Laure, Chris & Boris. 2. i think the modesty of the sum is not a reason not to start the grand economic system! so i propose to distribute credits the following way (only active people on the mailing list are considered here, 1 credit = 1 euro) 1 x 40 credits (to Manu) 4 x 30 credits (to Audrey, Laure, Chris & Boris) 7 x 20 credits (to Lucy, Nathali, Cym, Judy, Paula, Luka & Alejo) either we decide to cash in (in that case we need e-banking on the account of course), either we leave it in the bank for further expenses. the persons leaving their credits into the bank, if their credits are used for later aether expenses (traveling, hardware, props, buying rival companies...), should have some kind of status that will put them on top of the list of the benefactors of the next cash flow into the account. --- - Laure & me will be in LA and california between the 26th october - 5th of november (for a family wedding). Chris & Judy & Lucy & ???, if you are somewhere in california at that time, would be great to meet in person - we will probably have a car and are looking for stuff to do there besides driving to LasVegas (joking)! -- by the way Manu the http://www.1904.cc/aether/ website & siblings are quite awesome i find! - congratulations, you reached web level -1! Boris _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070901/ced4db9e/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Lucy The League of Imaginary Scientists ------ Forwarded Message From: IMAGE M?ta Femmes Br at nchées 07 /Image: Helen Varley Jamieson/ [English follows] M?ta Femmes Branch?es 07 [31 mai + 1 juin] Rencontre avec les artistes et conceptrices de la performance en ligne, Helen Varley Jamieson et Adriene Jenik *Pr?sentation* : jeudi, 31 mai 2007 17h00 - 19h00 Prix d'entr?e : 5$, entr?e libre pour les membres. ? Studio XX : 4001 rue Berri, local 201 Helen Varley Jamieson (UK, N-Z) oeuvre dans le milieu du th??tre o? elle agit en tant qu'auteure, directrice et productrice. Depuis 2000, elle explore le potentiel de l'internet comme lieu de performance, d?finissant un genre nouveau qu'elle nomme "cyberformance". Elle r?alise son travail principalement au sein de la troupe de cyberformance Avatar Body Collision dont les membres sont dispers?s aux quatre coins du monde (www.avatarbodycollision.org ). Troupe qu'elle a d'ailleurs co-fond?e en 2002. Leur travail a ?t? pr?sent? internationalement. Helen Varley Jamieson est aussi responsable de projet de UpStage, une plate-forme de diffusion r?seau pour performances en direct sur internet. (www.upstage.org.nz ). Adriene Jenik, artiste am?ricaine en t?l?communications m?diatiques se joindra ? la conf?rence par l'interm?diaire de Skype. Elle parlera d'exp?riences du projet Desktop o? des performances virtuelles sont r?alis?es ? partir d'un environnement de groupe de discussion. Ce projet est d?velopp? au d?partement des Arts visuels, m?diatiques et informatiques de L'Universit? de Californie ? San Diego (UCSD) o? elle est rattach?e. (www.adrienejenik.net ) Atelier : Introduction du logiciel UpStage par Helen Varley Jamieson *Atelier* : vendredi, 1 juin : 13h-17h Prix d'entr?e : $20 pour membres ? Studio XX : 4001 rue Berri, local 201 Cet atelier est une introduction au logiciel UpStage, une plate-forme logiciel libre destin?e ? la performance en ligne. Le logiciel combine les ?l?ments varies (image, son...) de la performance virtuelle ? l'int?rieur d'une m?me page web. L'audience n'a qu'? pointer leur navigateur sur le site ? l'heure convenue pour regarder et participer. UpStage est disponible gratuitement. >>Inscriptions : programmation at studioxx.org ou 514-845-7934 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ M?ta Femmes Branch?es 07 [31 May + 1 June] A meeting with the conceptual and online performance artists, Helen Varley Jamieson and Adriene Jenik *Presentation* : Thursday, 31 May 2007 5-7pm Cost : 5$, free for members. At Studio XX : 4001 rue Berri, suite 201 Helen Varley Jamieson (UK N-Z) has a background in theater as a playwright, director and producer. Since 2000 she has explored the potential of the internet as a site for performance, defining a new genre that she has termed "cyberformance". Most of this work has been as a member of the globally dispersed cyberformance troupe Avatar Body Collision (www.avatarbodycollision.org ) which she co-founded in 2002. This pioneering group have devised numerous performances using the internet to bring the remote players together. Their work has been presented at festivals around the world. Helen Varley Jamieson is also the project manager for UpStage, software that creates a web-based venue for live performance on the internet (www.upstage.org.nz ). Adriene Jenik, an american telecommunications media artist, will join us virtually at the event using the software Skype. She will speak of her experiences with the Desktop Theatre project, where her online theatrical performances take place through virtual group dialogue and interaction. This project was developed within the Visual Arts Department at the University of California, San Diego, where Adriene is currently serving as an Associate Professor of Computer & Media Arts. (www.adrienejenik.net ) Workshop : An introduction to the software UpStage by Helen Varley Jamieson *Workshops* : Friday, 1 June : 1-5pm Cost: $20 for members At Studio XX : 4001 rue Berri, suite 201 This workshop is an introduction to the software UpStage, an open source venue for online performance. The software combines the various elements of virtual performance (image, sound...) onto a single web page. The audience simply points their browser to the UpStage web site at the appointed time, to watch and participate. 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Due to a growing demand for extra time, we have decided to extend the deadline. Please note that this new deadline will *not* be extended. Every paper/article/map received after the 1st of November 2007 midnight will not be published in the book. -- FLOSS+Art Call for Papers NEW DEADLINE: November 1st 2007 people.makeart is a new project by GOTO10. It is a repository of articles and lecture materials focused on the relationship between FLOSS (Free/Libre/Open Source Software) and digital arts, as well as a database of free digital art projects. The selected papers will be published on the people.makeart website and will be printed in the FLOSS+Art book, scheduled for spring 2008, using OpenMute's POD publishing service. GOTO10 is now accepting new, old and recycled papers/articles/interviews/maps on the following issues: - opening digital art's practice, code and culture - FLOSS communities VS. art collectives - digital art licensing, copying and distributing, using open content models - role of the artist in FLOSS development - influence of FLOSS on digital art practices - free software to produce art and the art of producing free software - economy of an open digital artwork - FLOSS as an embedded political message in digital art - paradox and limitations of open licenses for digital art - FLOSS as a way to quote and embed other artworks in a new one - digital artist as a FLOSS developer/user and vice-versa - definitions and manifestos for a free software art - branching and forking of an open digital artwork - opening digital art to ensure future maintainance and porting Submission Procedures: - Submit your final paper to pmafloss-at-goto10-dot-org no later than September 15th, 2007. Include the text "FLOSS+Art" followed by your paper's title in your e-mail subject line. - Submit as many papers as you want, one mail submission for each. - Accepted formats : plaintext, LaTeX, OpenDocument No other file format will be accepted. - The paper must be attached to the mail, do not send us links - The submitted paper must be written in English - Paper must be 1500 words minimum More information: http://people.makeart.goto10.org/ :* The FLOSS+Art POD publishing is a collaboration between GOTO10, the Digital Research Unit of the University of Huddersfield and the Bergen Center for Electronics Arts with commissions and contributions from various organisations and institutions. --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Due to a growing demand for extra time, we have decided to extend the deadline. Please note that this new deadline will *not* be extended. Every paper/article/map received after the 1st of November 2007 midnight will not be published in the book. -- FLOSS+Art Call for Papers NEW DEADLINE: November 1st 2007 people.makeart is a new project by GOTO10. It is a repository of articles and lecture materials focused on the relationship between FLOSS (Free/Libre/Open Source Software) and digital arts, as well as a database of free digital art projects. The selected papers will be published on the people.makeart website and will be printed in the FLOSS+Art book, scheduled for spring 2008, using OpenMute's POD publishing service. GOTO10 is now accepting new, old and recycled papers/articles/interviews/maps on the following issues: - opening digital art's practice, code and culture - FLOSS communities VS. art collectives - digital art licensing, copying and distributing, using open content models - role of the artist in FLOSS development - influence of FLOSS on digital art practices - free software to produce art and the art of producing free software - economy of an open digital artwork - FLOSS as an embedded political message in digital art - paradox and limitations of open licenses for digital art - FLOSS as a way to quote and embed other artworks in a new one - digital artist as a FLOSS developer/user and vice-versa - definitions and manifestos for a free software art - branching and forking of an open digital artwork - opening digital art to ensure future maintainance and porting Submission Procedures: - Submit your final paper to pmafloss-at-goto10-dot-org no later than September 15th, 2007. Include the text "FLOSS+Art" followed by your paper's title in your e-mail subject line. - Submit as many papers as you want, one mail submission for each. - Accepted formats : plaintext, LaTeX, OpenDocument No other file format will be accepted. - The paper must be attached to the mail, do not send us links - The submitted paper must be written in English - Paper must be 1500 words minimum More information: http://people.makeart.goto10.org/ :* The FLOSS+Art POD publishing is a collaboration between GOTO10, the Digital Research Unit of the University of Huddersfield and the Bergen Center for Electronics Arts with commissions and contributions from various organisations and institutions. Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. Faites des appels de PC ? PC dans le monde entier ! Essayez le nouveau Yahoo! 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Please note that this new deadline will *not* be extended. > Every > paper/article/map received after the 1st of November 2007 > midnight > will > not be published in the book. > > -- > > FLOSS+Art > Call for Papers > NEW DEADLINE: November 1st 2007 > > people.makeart is a new project by GOTO10. > > It is a repository of articles and lecture materials focused on the > relationship between FLOSS (Free/Libre/Open Source Software) and > digital arts, as well as a database of free digital art projects. > > The selected papers will be published on the people.makeart website and > will be printed in the FLOSS+Art book, scheduled for spring 2008, using > > OpenMute's POD publishing service. > > GOTO10 is now accepting new, old and recycled > papers/articles/interviews/maps on the following issues: > > - opening digital art's practice, code and culture > - FLOSS communities VS. art collectives > - digital art licensing, copying and distributing, using open content > models > - role of > the artist in FLOSS development > - influence of FLOSS on digital art practices > - free software to > produce art and the art of producing free software > - economy of an open digital artwork > - FLOSS as an embedded political message in digital art > - paradox and limitations of open licenses for digital art > - FLOSS as a way to quote and embed other artworks in a new one > - digital artist as a FLOSS developer/user and vice-versa > - definitions and manifestos for a free software art > - branching and forking of an open digital artwork > - opening digital art to ensure future maintainance and porting > > > Submission Procedures: > > - Submit your final paper to pmafloss-at-goto10-dot-org > no later than September 15th, 2007. Include the text "FLOSS+Art" > followed by your paper's title in your e-mail subject line. > - Submit as many papers as you want, one mail submission for each. > - Accepted formats : plaintext, > LaTeX, OpenDocument > No other file format will be accepted. > - The paper must be attached to the mail, do not send us > links > - The submitted paper must be written in English > - Paper must be 1500 words minimum > > More information: http://people.makeart.goto10.org/ > > :* > > > The FLOSS+Art POD publishing is a collaboration between GOTO10, > the Digital Research Unit of the University of Huddersfield and > the Bergen Center for Electronics Arts with commissions and > contributions > from various organisations and > institutions. > > ------------------------------ > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket:mail, news, photos & more. > > > ------------------------------ > D?couvrez ce qui fait jaser les gens ! Visitez les groupes de l'heure sur > * Yahoo! 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070914/b5d5bd24/attachment.html From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Fri Sep 14 18:22:26 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:22:26 +0200 Subject: [aether] Re : Deadline extended UK Floss+art In-Reply-To: <119189.20707.qm {a+} web50203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <119189.20707.qm {a+} web50203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: well, nothing prevents you from submitting a paper and seeing if gets accepted. but i would rather stick with the festivals/events that are on the wavelength of the project, there are plenty of them.. for example the next http://www.pixelache.ac/2007/malaupixel07 in paris. regarding papers, if any of you finds the time to write an essay about our project, there are some other open deadlines: 30th of September 2007 - ISEA08 (for which we also submitted aether9 as a "project" and still wait for feedback...) - http://www.isea2008.org/cfp.html October 21st 2007 - conference on Image Science - "New practices on image transfer" - http://www.donau-uni.ac.at/dis and one big news, i created an account for aether9 on sourceforge.net ... http://sourceforge.net/projects/aether9/ the idea is to test the different tools the sourceforge site offers, tools for keeping organised different versions of source code, making feature requests and so on... an idea would be to make available there source code and any technical/theoretical writings that we produce (it's obviously intended for technical documentation, but nothing would prevent us from putting more artistic writings/imagery there...). anyway, this infrastructure will certainly highly improve the seriousness of the project ;) best, manuel note: will be in frankfurt, germany, from 19-22nd sept, and probably a trip to kassel on 23rd >the only problem is the 'goto10' guys (they are >all men aren't they?) are pretty fundamentalist >about free/open source, therefore the fact that >we also use maxmsp will automatically disqualify >us. >a|idea > >----- Message initial ---- >De : Judy Nylon >? : aether at [nospam] 1904.cc >Envoy? le : mercredi 12 septembre 2007, 15 h 38 min 30 s >Objet : [aether] Deadline extended UK Floss+art > From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Thu Sep 27 01:18:55 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:18:55 +0200 Subject: [aether] sputnik memorial day Message-ID: dear fellow aethernauts, as you maybe know, in a week will be the Internation Sputnik Day - 50th anniversary of throwing the first satellite into orbit, on 4th of october. i was thinking that that could be a good date for a next aether9-session. several other spontanic events / performances are going to happen that day, see http://sputnik.irmielin.org/ there are some new things on the way, if you check http://1904.cc/aether/live/ there is a version where some live webcam images are integrated. we'll see if this can be interesting/useful in performance. in the "random viewer window", the position of the images changes randomly, but there are always five images present (so it would be possible to assign them for a performance), presently : 1. 1904.cc:ONE - ftp://1904.cc/1/ 3. im.science:THREE - ftp://imaginaryscience.org/3/ 5. 10111:FIVE - ftp://10111.org/web/5/ 7. artmedia:SEVEN - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/7/ 8. artmedia:EIGHT - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/8/ and something else one of the greatest (pseudo)science websites about the properties of aether which i found so far: http://www.glafreniere.com/ contains absolutely gorgeous animated graphics.. see especially: http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_aether.htm http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_electron.htm http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_conclusion.htm some quotes: "This site does not explain how aether works. Any medium capable of transmitting longitudinal waves could do the job. (...) This web site shows that aether exists and that the light is made of waves. Photons do not exist. So Descartes was right. (...) You are not entitled to think that aether does not exist. (...) Up to now, Descartes' explanation about light remains the only one which is acceptable." "This web site postulates that matter is made of "moving standing waves" and that all forces are waves. Those waves need an aether. In addition, Relativity was discovered by Lorentz and Poincar? in 1904. Not by Albert Einstein. Their original version, especially Lorentz's, admits the existence of the aether. Lorentz never discarded the existence of aether until his death in 1928." there's more of this, and those theories seem to me quite interesting base material for our performance-in-progress.. getting a bit back to the aether topic, scientific experimentation rendered visually, etc.. please react on this, specially about the possible mini-performance on 4th october. Will be travelling for the three next days, with sporadic internet access. Then ca. two weeks, to work more intesively on aether9, then one week for a project in belgrade and prishtina (remotely connected to aether too, consisting in a live video-link between those two capitals..) that's it for now, best, manuel From 1.1 [*] 1904.cc Thu Sep 27 01:38:18 2007 From: 1.1 [*] 1904.cc (1.1 [*] 1904.cc) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:38:18 +0200 Subject: [aether] reminder: finances In-Reply-To: <823425.99073.qm {a+} web62303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <823425.99073.qm {a+} web62303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >For the record, at this point while there is so little money....I'm >with Manu...just divide it up and give it out. right, actually we still didnt' do that, so let's finish with it. as said, i'm for applying democratically the distribution scheme suggested by boris: >1 x 40 credits (to Manu) >4 x 30 credits (to Audrey, Laure, Chris & Boris) >7 x 20 credits (to Lucy, Nathalie, Cym, Judy, Paula, Luka & Alejo) so, Audrey, Laure, Chris, Boris, Lucy, Nathalie, Cym, Judy, Paula, Luka, Alejo tell me: - your preference between Paypal or Moneybookers.com - the email adress to which i should send the payment. if you didn't use yet one of those systems, this will be the occasion to check how it really works. for the record, for transfers of less than 50 EUR, paypal is more economic than moneybookers. above, moneybookers is cheaper (the highest transfer fee is 2,30 EUR). best, m. From ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca Thu Sep 27 14:42:58 2007 From: ideacritik at [nospam] yahoo.ca (::audrey::) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [aether] Re : sputnik memorial day Message-ID: <148605.23105.qm {a+} web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> quick reply - i will be in montreal oct 3-8 and hoping to be offline after an insanely busy summer/automn... but i'm back online mid-october and looking forward to a session! audrey ----- Message initial ---- De : "1.1 [*] 1904.cc" <1.1 [*] 1904.cc> ? : aether at [nospam] 1904.cc Envoy? le : jeudi 27 septembre 2007, 01 h 18 min 55 s Objet : [aether] sputnik memorial day dear fellow aethernauts, as you maybe know, in a week will be the Internation Sputnik Day - 50th anniversary of throwing the first satellite into orbit, on 4th of october. i was thinking that that could be a good date for a next aether9-session. several other spontanic events / performances are going to happen that day, see http://sputnik.irmielin.org/ there are some new things on the way, if you check http://1904.cc/aether/live/ there is a version where some live webcam images are integrated. we'll see if this can be interesting/useful in performance. in the "random viewer window", the position of the images changes randomly, but there are always five images present (so it would be possible to assign them for a performance), presently : 1. 1904.cc:ONE - ftp://1904.cc/1/ 3. im.science:THREE - ftp://imaginaryscience.org/3/ 5. 10111:FIVE - ftp://10111.org/web/5/ 7. artmedia:SEVEN - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/7/ 8. artmedia:EIGHT - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/8/ and something else one of the greatest (pseudo)science websites about the properties of aether which i found so far: http://www.glafreniere.com/ contains absolutely gorgeous animated graphics.. see especially: http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_aether.htm http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_electron.htm http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_conclusion.htm some quotes: "This site does not explain how aether works. Any medium capable of transmitting longitudinal waves could do the job. (...) This web site shows that aether exists and that the light is made of waves. Photons do not exist. So Descartes was right. (...) You are not entitled to think that aether does not exist. (...) Up to now, Descartes' explanation about light remains the only one which is acceptable." "This web site postulates that matter is made of "moving standing waves" and that all forces are waves. Those waves need an aether. In addition, Relativity was discovered by Lorentz and Poincar? in 1904. Not by Albert Einstein. Their original version, especially Lorentz's, admits the existence of the aether. Lorentz never discarded the existence of aether until his death in 1928." there's more of this, and those theories seem to me quite interesting base material for our performance-in-progress.. getting a bit back to the aether topic, scientific experimentation rendered visually, etc.. please react on this, specially about the possible mini-performance on 4th october. Will be travelling for the three next days, with sporadic internet access. Then ca. two weeks, to work more intesively on aether9, then one week for a project in belgrade and prishtina (remotely connected to aether too, consisting in a live video-link between those two capitals..) that's it for now, best, manuel _______________________________________________ aether mailing list aether at [nospam] 1904.cc http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether Obtenez des r?ponses ? vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances et des opinions des internautes sur Yahoo! 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URL: http://lists.1904.cc/pipermail/aether/attachments/20070927/6b999cad/attachment.html From cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com Fri Sep 28 15:53:19 2007 From: cymnet at [nospam] gmail.com (cym net) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:53:19 +0200 Subject: [aether] Re : sputnik memorial day In-Reply-To: <148605.23105.qm {a+} web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <148605.23105.qm {a+} web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <95c795f70709280653h433f861ey18748235ef522bce {a+} mail.gmail.com> hello, for me october 4 will be impossible.. sorry, i will be at a family meeting in nl at the moment everything here is insanely busy, just like audrey :-) there is a simple flyer for the presentation tomorrow here at my house at http://wd8.at/projects/2007/connected07/ originally i had the idea to also ask aether9 to do a performance at this presentation, but i decided to stick to the works that we created here during summer and not to make the event bigger than it already is... but i am still thinking about an aether9 session in the farm some day so much for now, cym On 9/27/07, ::audrey:: wrote: > > quick reply - i will be in montreal oct 3-8 and hoping to be offline after > an insanely busy summer/automn... but i'm back online mid-october and > looking forward to a session! > audrey > > ----- Message initial ---- > De : "1.1 [*] 1904.cc" <1.1 [*] 1904.cc> > ? : aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > Envoy? le : jeudi 27 septembre 2007, 01 h 18 min 55 s > Objet : [aether] sputnik memorial day > > > dear fellow aethernauts, > > as you maybe know, in a week will be the > Internation Sputnik Day - 50th anniversary of > throwing the first satellite into orbit, on 4th > of october. > > i was thinking that that could be a good date for > a next aether9-session. several other spontanic > events / performances are going to happen that > day, see http://sputnik.irmielin.org/ > > there are some new things on the way, if you > check http://1904.cc/aether/live/ there is a > version where some live webcam images are > integrated. we'll see if this can be > interesting/useful in performance. > > in the "random viewer window", the position of > the images changes randomly, but there are always > five images present (so it would be possible to > assign them for a performance), presently : > 1. 1904.cc:ONE - ftp://1904.cc/1/ > 3. im.science:THREE - ftp://imaginaryscience.org/3/ > 5. 10111:FIVE - ftp://10111.org/web/5/ > 7. artmedia:SEVEN - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/7/ > 8. artmedia:EIGHT - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/8/ > > > and something else > one of the greatest (pseudo)science websites > about the properties of aether which i found so > far: > http://www.glafreniere.com/ > > contains absolutely gorgeous animated graphics.. > > see especially: > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_aether.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_electron.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_conclusion.htm > > some quotes: > "This site does not explain how aether works. Any > medium capable of transmitting longitudinal waves > could do the job. (...) This web site shows that > aether exists and that the light is made of > waves. Photons do not exist. So Descartes was > right. (...) You are not entitled to think that > aether does not exist. (...) Up to now, > Descartes' explanation about light remains the > only one which is acceptable." > > "This web site postulates that matter is made of > "moving standing waves" and that all forces are > waves. Those waves need an aether. In addition, > Relativity was discovered by Lorentz and Poincar? > in 1904. Not by Albert Einstein. Their original > version, especially Lorentz's, admits the > existence of the aether. Lorentz never discarded > the existence of aether until his death in 1928." > > there's more of this, and those theories seem to > me quite interesting base material for our > performance-in-progress.. getting a bit back to > the aether topic, scientific experimentation > rendered visually, etc.. > > please react on this, specially about the > possible mini-performance on 4th october. Will be > travelling for the three next days, with sporadic > internet access. Then ca. two weeks, to work more > intesively on aether9, then one week for a > project in belgrade and prishtina (remotely > connected to aether too, consisting in a live > video-link between those two capitals..) > > that's it for now, > best, > > manuel > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > > ________________________________ > D?couvrez ce qui fait jaser les gens ! Visitez les groupes de l'heure sur > Yahoo! Qu?bec Groupes. > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > From bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com Sat Sep 29 17:05:31 2007 From: bk at [nospam] n3krozoft.com (bk) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:05:31 +0200 Subject: [aether] sputnik memorial day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46FE69BB.1030304 {a+} n3krozoft.com> Hi aetherauts, the new interfaces are great! I won't be online much in the next 3 weeks, i'll attend a film workshop in Poland, www.filmspring.eu, so i won't be available the Sputnik anniversary day (4th of october). I will look more closely to this site www.glafreniere.com/ and found some certified info: www.mountainman.com.au/aetherqr.htm Indeed good material to stick to the aether theme All the best, Boris 1.1 [*] 1904.cc wrote: > dear fellow aethernauts, > > as you maybe know, in a week will be the > Internation Sputnik Day - 50th anniversary of > throwing the first satellite into orbit, on 4th > of october. > > i was thinking that that could be a good date for > a next aether9-session. several other spontanic > events / performances are going to happen that > day, see http://sputnik.irmielin.org/ > > there are some new things on the way, if you > check http://1904.cc/aether/live/ there is a > version where some live webcam images are > integrated. we'll see if this can be > interesting/useful in performance. > > in the "random viewer window", the position of > the images changes randomly, but there are always > five images present (so it would be possible to > assign them for a performance), presently : > 1. 1904.cc:ONE - ftp://1904.cc/1/ > 3. im.science:THREE - ftp://imaginaryscience.org/3/ > 5. 10111:FIVE - ftp://10111.org/web/5/ > 7. artmedia:SEVEN - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/7/ > 8. artmedia:EIGHT - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/8/ > > > and something else > one of the greatest (pseudo)science websites > about the properties of aether which i found so > far: > http://www.glafreniere.com/ > > contains absolutely gorgeous animated graphics.. > > see especially: > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_aether.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_electron.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_conclusion.htm > > some quotes: > "This site does not explain how aether works. Any > medium capable of transmitting longitudinal waves > could do the job. (...) This web site shows that > aether exists and that the light is made of > waves. Photons do not exist. So Descartes was > right. (...) You are not entitled to think that > aether does not exist. (...) Up to now, > Descartes' explanation about light remains the > only one which is acceptable." > > "This web site postulates that matter is made of > "moving standing waves" and that all forces are > waves. Those waves need an aether. In addition, > Relativity was discovered by Lorentz and Poincar? > in 1904. Not by Albert Einstein. Their original > version, especially Lorentz's, admits the > existence of the aether. Lorentz never discarded > the existence of aether until his death in 1928." > > there's more of this, and those theories seem to > me quite interesting base material for our > performance-in-progress.. getting a bit back to > the aether topic, scientific experimentation > rendered visually, etc.. > > please react on this, specially about the > possible mini-performance on 4th october. Will be > travelling for the three next days, with sporadic > internet access. Then ca. two weeks, to work more > intesively on aether9, then one week for a > project in belgrade and prishtina (remotely > connected to aether too, consisting in a live > video-link between those two capitals..) > > that's it for now, > best, > > manuel > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > > From lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de Sun Sep 30 13:42:23 2007 From: lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de (laure deselys) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:42:23 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [aether] reminder: finances In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <827265.54473.qm {a+} web26712.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> salut, Est-ce que ces r?f?rences te suffisent ? Mlle L. de Selys n? 676--3237101-80 IBAN: BE47 6763 2371 0180 BIC: DEGRBEBB Je ne suis pas ? la page en mati?re d Paypal or Moneybookers.com mais essaierai de l'?tre pour la prochaine fois et quand tu demandes une adresse email pour verser l'argent, je ne vois pas exactement non plus. Mais si ?a ne va pas, je trouverai. b?t laure --- 1.1 [*] 1904.cc schrieb: > > >For the record, at this point while there is so > little money....I'm > >with Manu...just divide it up and give it out. > > right, actually we still didnt' do that, so let's > finish with it. > > as said, i'm for applying democratically the > distribution scheme > suggested by boris: > > >1 x 40 credits (to Manu) > >4 x 30 credits (to Audrey, Laure, Chris & Boris) > >7 x 20 credits (to Lucy, Nathalie, Cym, Judy, > Paula, Luka & Alejo) > > so, Audrey, Laure, Chris, Boris, Lucy, Nathalie, > Cym, Judy, Paula, Luka, Alejo > > tell me: > - your preference between Paypal or Moneybookers.com > - the email adress to which i should send the > payment. > > if you didn't use yet one of those systems, this > will be the occasion > to check how it really works. > for the record, for transfers of less than 50 EUR, > paypal is more > economic than moneybookers. above, moneybookers is > cheaper (the > highest transfer fee is 2,30 EUR). > > best, > m. > > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > __________________________________ Yahoo! Clever - Der einfachste Weg, Fragen zu stellen und Wissenswertes mit Anderen zu teilen. www.yahoo.de/clever From lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de Sun Sep 30 21:07:00 2007 From: lauredinateur at [nospam] yahoo.de (laure deselys) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:07:00 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [aether] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <819082.64387.qm {a+} web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hello all, I ve got time on thursday, but i just have to find some place with the internet, since mine is not working again until the 6th. bis bald laure. --- 1.1 [*] 1904.cc schrieb: > dear fellow aethernauts, > > as you maybe know, in a week will be the > Internation Sputnik Day - 50th anniversary of > throwing the first satellite into orbit, on 4th > of october. > > i was thinking that that could be a good date for > a next aether9-session. several other spontanic > events / performances are going to happen that > day, see http://sputnik.irmielin.org/ > > there are some new things on the way, if you > check http://1904.cc/aether/live/ there is a > version where some live webcam images are > integrated. we'll see if this can be > interesting/useful in performance. > > in the "random viewer window", the position of > the images changes randomly, but there are always > five images present (so it would be possible to > assign them for a performance), presently : > 1. 1904.cc:ONE - ftp://1904.cc/1/ > 3. im.science:THREE - ftp://imaginaryscience.org/3/ > 5. 10111:FIVE - ftp://10111.org/web/5/ > 7. artmedia:SEVEN - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/7/ > 8. artmedia:EIGHT - ftp://artslashmedia.net/web/8/ > > > and something else > one of the greatest (pseudo)science websites > about the properties of aether which i found so > far: > http://www.glafreniere.com/ > > contains absolutely gorgeous animated graphics.. > > see especially: > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_aether.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_electron.htm > http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_conclusion.htm > > some quotes: > "This site does not explain how aether works. Any > medium capable of transmitting longitudinal waves > could do the job. (...) This web site shows that > aether exists and that the light is made of > waves. Photons do not exist. So Descartes was > right. (...) You are not entitled to think that > aether does not exist. (...) Up to now, > Descartes' explanation about light remains the > only one which is acceptable." > > "This web site postulates that matter is made of > "moving standing waves" and that all forces are > waves. Those waves need an aether. In addition, > Relativity was discovered by Lorentz and Poincar? > in 1904. Not by Albert Einstein. Their original > version, especially Lorentz's, admits the > existence of the aether. Lorentz never discarded > the existence of aether until his death in 1928." > > there's more of this, and those theories seem to > me quite interesting base material for our > performance-in-progress.. getting a bit back to > the aether topic, scientific experimentation > rendered visually, etc.. > > please react on this, specially about the > possible mini-performance on 4th october. Will be > travelling for the three next days, with sporadic > internet access. Then ca. two weeks, to work more > intesively on aether9, then one week for a > project in belgrade and prishtina (remotely > connected to aether too, consisting in a live > video-link between those two capitals..) > > that's it for now, > best, > > manuel > _______________________________________________ > aether mailing list > aether at [nospam] 1904.cc > http://lists.1904.cc/mailman/listinfo/aether > Wissenswertes zum Thema PC, Zubeh?r oder Programme. BE A BETTER INTERNET-GURU! www.yahoo.de/clever